LBJ's GREAT SOCIETY and American obesity?
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Link? Substantiate your claim that childhood obesity exploded in the 60's please. I think that must be new research. Most data I've seen shows it exploded under Reagan. Can we blame him if that pans out?
Not that I have any problem blasting Reagan. But, the fault here clearly should be directed at George McGovern and his infamous and dubious, McGovern Report in 1977. McGovern came from the grain producing state of South Dakota and did what his money spigot told him to do...devise a BS study ripping fats (meats) and place grains at the top of the FDA food pyramid. When you take fat out of food, it becomes bland. There was/is an embargo with Cuba and sugar. Food needed to be sweetened and voila...HFCS. Type 2 diabetes has gone parabolic (tripled) in this country starting then and it is no accident.
It is also no accident that an economic engine had been created. For example; in 1992, Archer Daniels Midland gave Bob Dole $1 million and the Democratic National Committee $2 Million...a safe hedge in that election cycle. Those well placed bribes (ahem) political donations resulted in $3 BILLION in taxpayer gifts, excuse me...stolen largesse.
McGovern Report lies.
Dr. Robert Lustig on Sixty Minutes
Here is a great podcast interview (17 min. in length) with the uniquely and highly qualified, Dr. Peter Attia.
https://www.lewrockwell.com/podcast/313-the-all-fat-diet/
https://www.lewrockwell.com/podcast/313-the-all-fat-diet/
The answer to America's problems is always to return to the ways of the 1950s. There was a wonderous place kids played back then- it was called 'outside'.
Great, but that doesn't address our significant food choice and food volume issue.
So my grandpa wasn't really 5'10 and #300+ in the 1950's? Interesting. I have known and known of fat people all my life. That includes quite a bit before 1965.....
I am an old PE teacher natural. I also think Drivers Ed should be mandatory...there are folks that have as much business with a driver license as Charles Manson needs a full pardon.
Isn't it mandatory before you can get a license? I always assumed it was. Sounds to me like we are in agreement that there should be more government regulations on people and an expanded role for education. I'll make a liberal out of you yet.
LOL...jumped on that one quick didn't you...yep you are a pretty smart cookie...however since I believe education should be controlled by the states you can't exactly make it a "liberal" issue...but nice try bud! Now as to the comment about DE being mandatory it isn't in Tennessee or Mississippi although insurance companies in both states give reduction in rates to students who successfully complete the course...still high as heck.Isn't it mandatory before you can get a license? I always assumed it was. Sounds to me like we are in agreement that there should be more government regulations on people and an expanded role for education. I'll make a liberal out of you yet.
Local liberal is a fine start, we'll step you up over time. In Iowa you must complete drivers Ed to get your first license if you are under 18. Think of all the lives we could save if we passed a national standard. National liberalism is just more efficient.
Just broke out in hives over that one. Honestly Iowa has a great program in place...I like it...and they had no federal pressure to enact it...what a novel idea...states doing the right thing for their own.
I'm just trying to look out for you fine folks in TN that seemed to have dropped the ball. Clearly you could benefit from a little liberal leadership.
That may very well be true. But it's also well documented that the obesity rate in this country started to skyrocket in the late 70's, along with the rates of heart disease, cancer and Type 2 Diabetes. And it has nothing to do with PE classes. It has to do with fast food, HFCS, and an explosion in the availability of food that is absolutely horrible for people. The fact is that way Americans, and a growing number of other Western societies, eat is causing them to have diseases that are costing hundreds of billions of dollars to treat.
And that's not even including the environmental impact of our food choices.
And therein lies the rub. We have ample experience of states doing stupid crap in areas of national importance. Some times they have to be told that there is a national minimum standard that must be met.
Now that doesn't mean that national level policy is always good or right...
Mainly because people got outside and were active on a regular basis. PE class was a prerequisite and not an option. Our parents demanded we go outside and play. How many hours did we spend playing pick up games of basketball, baseball, football? Riding our bikes, going to the municipal pool......and PARTICIPATING physically in daily life?
Now everyone sits behind a computer....and claims that it's interaction, and participation. Video games have replaced going outside and running around. And all the additives and bullsh*t that have been added to our food only increases the problem.
Too many of us sit on our asses to make a living, drink sugary sodee pop and starbucks drinks and eat fast food. I blame Obama.
Really? Reagan? Let's say you're right. Obesity wouldn't happen the minute you sign the legislation. It would take a generation of sloth to produce fat kids who grew into fat adults. So that generation would be reaching adulthood . . . when?
In the 80s
OK, in that case I'm sure Reagan fixed the policy as we all remember how on top of heading off new health crises Reagan was. So I assume obesity was solved by 2000?
OK, in that case I'm sure Reagan fixed the policy as we all remember how on top of heading off new health crises Reagan was. So I assume obesity was solved by 2000?
Reagan tried to bring back the 50s (without the bigotry). You lefties filibustered.
Is that what Reagan tried to do? Hmmm, well, Trying to "bring back the 50's" includes the bigotry because the 50's was loaded with racial bigotry. That's probably why bigotry was present when he tried bringing it back. Leave the 50's in the mid-20th Century. The 50's were the 50's for many reasons. Mostly because they were from 1950 to 1959. If you're that fond of a time you never lived in, watch Back To The Future and pretend and then come back here and show how out-of-touch you remain on every issue.
No liberal leadership needed but you good Iowa folk can come down and spend your money with us any time you want...you can even tell us how you do things up Nawth...we will smile and nod our heads and take your money!
You are trading one set of stupidity for another...I prefer my stupid stuff be dictated a little closer to home.
So approximately 15 years after LBJ's "Great Society" took root....you are blaming it for American's poor eating habits and smoking? Americans ate poorly long before The Great Society came along...they smoked, too. Fast foods and poot dietary choices are Landslide's fault?
Methinks there are plenty of reasons...methinks "The Great Society" as envisioned by LBJ is a very small reason.
