Lee scares me.

[Besthawkfan]

I know I might be looking to far ahead but, i hope Lee takes 3 titles with maybe 1 upset, and breaks Iowa records or comes close.
That being said, I just feel like he might just get injured to many times and end up spending too much time fighting his way back to be dominate.
I hope not. We need a break or two to get us back on top and he might be the spark we need.

 

[bbwretler]

I know I might be looking to far ahead but, i hope Lee takes 3 titles with maybe 1 upset, and breaks Iowa records or comes close.
That being said, I just feel like he might just get injured to many times and end up spending too much time fighting his way back to be dominate.
I hope not. We need a break or two to get us back on top and he might be the spark we need.

Or he may very well stay completely healthy, dominate, win 4 NCAA chapionships and an olympic gold medal.

 

[Pennstate1985]

Or he may very well stay completely healthy, dominate, win 4 NCAA chapionships and an olympic gold medal.

Or, he meets Tognetti's wife on the eve of his first nationals Saturday and requires long term institutionalization. I dont see any other choices for Spencer.

 

[el dub]

I know I might be looking to far ahead but, i hope Lee takes 3 titles with maybe 1 upset, and breaks Iowa records or comes close.
That being said, I just feel like he might just get injured to many times and end up spending too much time fighting his way back to be dominate.
I hope not. We need a break or two to get us back on top and he might be the spark we need.

Don’t be scared, homie....

 

[sdvike]

Even injured, I could see him pulling off a Cory Clark type run at the Championships. Some just have enough talent and can adapt to their injury. I would take him with 1 arm or 1 leg against anyone at his weight.

 

[rustynailhawk]

Even injured, I could see him pulling off a Cory Clark type run at the Championships. Some just have enough talent and can adapt to their injury. I would take him with 1 arm or 1 leg against anyone at his weight.

Except DeSanto.. someone was going to say it

 

[Grip220]

Even injured, I could see him pulling off a Cory Clark type run at the Championships. Some just have enough talent and can adapt to their injury. I would take him with 1 arm or 1 leg against anyone at his weight.

I would like to see him after training with HWC guys and teammates at Iowa and come out born again hard fierce relentless mean no mercy Just like the best guys representing the US currently and most of the top P4p in the world have one thing in common the are hammers and relentless ...

 

[bbwretler]

I would like to see him after training with HWC guys and teammates at Iowa and come out born again hard fierce relentless mean no mercy Just like the best guys representing the US currently and most of the top P4p in the world have one thing in common the are hammers and relentless ...

Somebody was going o say it: have you watched Spencer wrestle, seen how many different venues he has competed in and WON already? Probably doesn’t need to be reborn.

 

[2000hawk]

Even injured, I could see him pulling off a Cory Clark type run at the Championships. Some just have enough talent and can adapt to their injury. I would take him with 1 arm or 1 leg against anyone at his weight.

Except DeSanto.. someone was going to say it

Desanto is a 33lber. He and Spencer have met for the last time in folkstyle.

 

[IAChief32]

Desanto is a 33lber. He and Spencer have met for the last time in folkstyle.

Lee had a torn ACL/mono and still almost beat DeSanto. I like Spencer's chances even if DeSanto stayed at 125.

 

[rossel 33]

Lee's technical skills and past accomplishments put him in extremely rarified air. Only Metcalf came close to being that kind of recruit, for Brands.

If Lee stays healthy, the sky is the limit.

But in the past few years, he has had 3 surgeries. One for shoulder, another for knee and most recently for a hernia. Any of these could recur, with shoulder (labrum) tending to be the most worrisome.

I'm cautiously optimistic, but once in a while crap happens. I'd hold off penciling him in for 4 ncaa titles and Olympic gold. Let's get him completely healed and take it from there. A Midlands title and work towards that first ncaa title.

 

[lookleft goright]

I know I might be looking to far ahead but, i hope Lee takes 3 titles with maybe 1 upset, and breaks Iowa records or comes close.
That being said, I just feel like he might just get injured to many times and end up spending too much time fighting his way back to be dominate.
I hope not. We need a break or two to get us back on top and he might be the spark we need.

You think you are scared. What do you think the guys wrestling him feel like?

 

[slushhead]

Somebody was going o say it: have you watched Spencer wrestle, seen how many different venues he has competed in and WON already? Probably doesn’t need to be reborn.

FWIW, my first thought was, "How long before he is beating all the guys of comparable weight in the room?"

If he stays healthy, I would expect a bump up in development this season, then utter nastiness the rest of the way. Health remaining the obvious key.

 

[UndercoverHawk]

Or he may very well stay completely healthy, dominate, win 4 NCAA chapionships and an olympic gold medal.

Just 1?

 

[Wrestlerneverdiesasacatfan]

Lee's technical skills and past accomplishments put him in extremely rarified air. Only Metcalf came close to being that kind of recruit, for Brands.

If Lee stays healthy, the sky is the limit.

But in the past few years, he has had 3 surgeries. One for shoulder, another for knee and most recently for a hernia. Any of these could recur, with shoulder (labrum) tending to be the most worrisome.

I'm cautiously optimistic, but once in a while crap happens. I'd hold off penciling him in for 4 ncaa titles and Olympic gold. Let's get him completely healed and take it from there. A Midlands title and work towards that first ncaa title.

If he properly rehabs, he will be fine! That's a big if! Every college on the planet would give Lee a full ride! No brainer! Even if he gets hurt, it won't cost you more than a one year scholarship

 

[bbwretler]

Just 1?

Just one before he is done wrestling in college.

 

[Grip220]

Somebody was going o say it: have you watched Spencer wrestle, seen how many different venues he has competed in and WON already? Probably doesn’t need to be reborn.

Prob bad choice of words Im just excited I want to see him face mush and crush people thats all I feel like a kid in a candy store. The future is bright

 

[jvclark]

Somebody was going o say it: have you watched Spencer wrestle, seen how many different venues he has competed in and WON already? Probably doesn’t need to be reborn.

I think you are both right. He has won under some of the biggest lights possible against some of the best competition. But there are always rough edges to be smoothed out, technique to be polished. Believe it or not, new technique to be learned. Maybe more than all of that, with all that he has learned from the multitude of coaches that he has had, is just having a full time strength and conditioning coach on board.

This is really the reason that I hope he stays redshirted. One full year of training(and wrestling unattached of course). Getting stronger in areas he has never had time to really develop due to his heavy wrestling schedule while not going through the grueling schedule that we wrestle. I think this(and of course technique/wrestling) will be invaluable to a long HEALTHY career.

GO HAWKS!!!

 

[Blackcat97]

Assuming he's healthy (which you can basically say for any kid) I think the only hurdles he has in route to 4 is Fix and Suriano. Honestly, if I had to pick I would pick him over Suriano and a toss-up with Fix. I'm not sure Fix or Suriano are career 125's. I hope they both are only because those battles would be absolutely epic over the next 3-4 years. Fix vs. Lee for four years would add a great chapter to the Hawk/Cowboy rivalry.

 

[KTI]

I like Lee in Folkstyle. I just watched Fix get turned by Karam on a match posted by FLO. His top and bottom work is no way the same level in Folk as it is in Freestyle. I don't think the match will be as close as most think in Folkstyle. I think Lee turns him. I hope we get to see them wrestle in Folkstyle.

 

[crablegs1]

I like Lee in Folkstyle. I just watched Fix get turned by Karam on a match posted by FLO. His top and bottom work is no way the same level in Folk as it is in Freestyle. I don't think the match will be as close as most think in Folkstyle. I think Lee turns him. I hope we get to see them wrestle in Folkstyle.

That match was several years ago. I like Lee over both of those guys as well, but they are legitimate competition and it would not shock me for either of them to beat him. I would expect those 3 to split some matches and hopefully Lee always comes out on top at NCAAs.

 

[MVPFAN]

Assuming he's healthy (which you can basically say for any kid) I think the only hurdles he has in route to 4 is Fix and Suriano. Honestly, if I had to pick I would pick him over Suriano and a toss-up with Fix. I'm not sure Fix or Suriano are career 125's. I hope they both are only because those battles would be absolutely epic over the next 3-4 years. Fix vs. Lee for four years would add a great chapter to the Hawk/Cowboy rivalry.

I thought Fix looked a lot bigger than Nato in their 23 and under matches.

 

[Grip220]

I think both Fix and Suriano will be at 133 come next season I can see Piccinnini at 25 and Fix up at 133 could be wrong but I have a hunch when Lee starts crushing everyone they go up..

 

[pablow]

I think both Fix and Suriano will be at 133 come next season I can see Piccinnini at 25 and Fix up at 133 could be wrong but I have a hunch when Lee starts crushing everyone they go up..

rock and a hard place . . . Gross may murder these two.

 

[Neo_Hawk]

I think both Fix and Suriano will be at 133 come next season I can see Piccinnini at 25 and Fix up at 133 could be wrong but I have a hunch when Lee starts crushing everyone they go up..

Anytime a guy has a history of injury it's cause for concern, especially when he's the hottest prospect on the team, but what's will happen will happen and there is nothing us fan's can do.

As far as Fix and Suriano, I agree that they both are at 33 by the time Spencer hits the line up. Picc is going to be a tough out for SL, I see him taking a few losses along the way, but if he stay's healthy, I think he has a shot at a few finals matches, maybe more.

 

[WWDMHawkeye]

rock and a hard place . . . Gross may murder these two.

Now, there’s a 133 who would have come in mighty handy about now.

 

[SPOONER]

Now, there’s a 133 who would have come in mighty handy about now.

Except when he was here no one thought he would be very good.

 

[DeadHead11]

Lee is Western PA strong! I really, really want to see a Lee-Suriano match at Midlands

 

[el dub]

Lee is Western PA strong! I really, really want to see a Lee-Suriano match at Midlands

Are they going to take the bubble wrap off of Lee for the Midlands?

 

[CumberlandHawk]

No. He can still make weight with it on. Why take the chance?

 

[jvclark]

No. He can still make weight with it on. Why take the chance?

I'm busy watching my Dodgers figure out a way to lose this game two different times.

But this was funny. Needed it

 

[HoundedHawk]

I know I might be looking to far ahead but, i hope Lee takes 3 titles with maybe 1 upset, and breaks Iowa records or comes close.
That being said, I just feel like he might just get injured to many times and end up spending too much time fighting his way back to be dominate.
I hope not. We need a break or two to get us back on top and he might be the spark we need.

Your grammar scares me.

 

[el dub]

Your grammar scares me.

I feal scarred....

 

[SansSouci]

I feal scarred....

I would two. I don't feel like Lee's shoulder is a big deal...I've had five for the same reason and they seem fine. The knee is a different animal. I had my knee done and I'll drop like a basketball player at a wrestling practice as soon as it gets outside pressure.

 

[Huck]

Honest question, who's the last guy to beat a healthy Lee in folkstyle, and how long ago?
Was it Suriano a few years ago?

 

[GableEdge]

Yeah but you lack so much I wouldn’t compare. Sans

 

[Needanap]

Honest question, who's the last guy to beat a healthy Lee in folkstyle, and how long ago?
Was it Suriano a few years ago?

Lee's last folkstyle loss (prior to DeSanto), was to Suriano in the Super 32 finals. Lee was in 8th grade and Suriano was a freshman. Lee lost by one point when Suriano took him down in the last second of the match. Lee lost 2 Pts for illegal holds and had Suriano on his back twice and did not get back points. The first time was close and the 2 nd time was a horrible non call by the ref.

Lee and Suriano met again in the finals the next year and Lee won in OT with a counter off of what may have been Surianos only committed shot. Suriano was warned for stalling and the commentators debated most of the match if the refs would call the second stall call in the finals.

Both matches are on Flo but I wasn't able to copy the link. Both are good in neutral and are tough to take down. Lee dominates Suriano from the top position.