Lee vs Suriano
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They wrestled twice in HS and split. But I felt Lee out wrestled him both times. At the time I assume Suriano would be a Hawk, and Lee would be at PSU; and I was jealous.
There will be back points......
I doubt that. It will be extremely low scoring. One takedown in the match. Not sure who gets it. It’s a toss up.
I like our chances.
If anyone can get backs on Suriano, it’s Spencer. Maybe not, but there’s no doubt he’ll give it a go.
Intriguing match-up, to say the least. I do know which guy’s training in the much, much, much better room every day. Of that, there’s no doubt (any elite 133’s out there, that’s a hint).
If anyone can get backs on Suriano, it’s Spencer. Maybe not, but there’s no doubt he’ll give it a go.
Intriguing match-up, to say the least. I do know which guy’s training in the much, much, much better room every day. Of that, there’s no doubt (any elite 133’s out there, that’s a hint).
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Dang, you guys are sure about that. Maybe, but I haven’t seen a 125 with Spencer’s top game. . . ever. Will be interesting to see.
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Suriano won’t take down against Spencer. Any riding will be after a take down. Suriano will try to contol the elbow and block with his head. Waiting for Spencer to take a bad shot and get out of position so he can try to counter. No offense iniatied by him.
Silva took down Lee last year at ironman. Suriano is a much better then he. To think Lee can't be takendown is just silly.
Unless Suriano has changed his stripes, I think that's a fairly accurate representation of how it will go.
And you've got Max Thomsen over Brandon Sorenson too. Smoke another bowl.
No, sir. I've never made such a prediction, simply because Sorensen has already beaten Thomsen.
Yes, I'm a UNI fan, but I'm also honest and will call it as it is.
Nobody said Lee can’t be taken down but guarantee you that Lee will be a much better wrestler at the Big Tens than he is now. If Lee wins at Midlands then Suriano is in big trouble
Spencer is too offensive, aggressive, and talented for Suriano. I literally cannot see Suriano scoring on Spencer. Nick is a brawler with a big gas tank. He does not have a go-to hold. He is above average, on top, on bottom, and on his feet. Spencer is better on top, more dynamic and explosive on his feet. Not sure how good he is on bottom doesn't seem to be there very often.
Most of the time wrestlers that are really good on top are also really good on bottom. Lone exception to that rule is Mark Perry, but I think a lot of the time he got rode he was either going for the reversal for too long, or had the match locked up and didn't give full effort. Still, he got rode a lot for someone so good on top. Guys like Penrith, Clark and to some extent the Stieners never had problems on bottom. Matter of fact, with Clark and Penrith most guys didn't even try to ride them, out of fear they would get reversed. From what little I have seen I would bet most guys will not want to be on the mat with Spencer rather on top or bottom.
Nick has outstanding defense but Spencers finishes are as clean as anyone we have ever had at Iowa. Spencer will score. Will he turn him? I think he might. Spencer could win this match pretty easily, we will see. He could also lose, if he does I would guess it would be a one takedown match(don't see that happening). Spencer just has too many tools in the box imo... If I was to set the line I would put it at Spencer -1.5. If I was predicting the score I would say Spencer 5-1 and it will be worse the next time. Kid is special, can't wait to watch him destroy some high-quality guys
Spencer wins by 10-15 10%
Spencer by 5 -10 30%
Spencer by 1-4 55%
Nick by 1 4%
Nick by <1 1%
Gambling on College wrestling is not legal in the USofA, so this is for entertainment purposes only
Most of the time wrestlers that are really good on top are also really good on bottom. Lone exception to that rule is Mark Perry, but I think a lot of the time he got rode he was either going for the reversal for too long, or had the match locked up and didn't give full effort. Still, he got rode a lot for someone so good on top. Guys like Penrith, Clark and to some extent the Stieners never had problems on bottom. Matter of fact, with Clark and Penrith most guys didn't even try to ride them, out of fear they would get reversed. From what little I have seen I would bet most guys will not want to be on the mat with Spencer rather on top or bottom.
Nick has outstanding defense but Spencers finishes are as clean as anyone we have ever had at Iowa. Spencer will score. Will he turn him? I think he might. Spencer could win this match pretty easily, we will see. He could also lose, if he does I would guess it would be a one takedown match(don't see that happening). Spencer just has too many tools in the box imo... If I was to set the line I would put it at Spencer -1.5. If I was predicting the score I would say Spencer 5-1 and it will be worse the next time. Kid is special, can't wait to watch him destroy some high-quality guys
Spencer wins by 10-15 10%
Spencer by 5 -10 30%
Spencer by 1-4 55%
Nick by 1 4%
Nick by <1 1%
Gambling on College wrestling is not legal in the USofA, so this is for entertainment purposes only
Didn’t say spencer could not be taken down. I said, Suriano would not TAKE DOWN. That he would not choose to go under spencer. If he does he better get out quickly and not get broken down.
Who said Lee can’t be take down? I may have missed it but don’t see it.
Again, who’s saying Suriano can’t beat Lee? Am I missing a parallel thread somewhere? Even checked posts on the ignore list and still nothing.
And this one doesn’t count. Don’t think 100% serious. . . .
Correct. But that’s HOW I FEEL INSIDE WHEN I WATCH HIM WRESTLE.
It makes me think happy, dominant thoughts IN ALL CAPS.
There is no way Spencer has a 10% shot of beating Suriano by 10-15 points, nor is there a 40% chance Spencer wins by 5+. These are ridiculous odds.
Throw out everything you think you know about competitive D1 wrestling. SPENCER LEE EFFECT.
Have you watched Suriano wrestle? I mean like ever.
There will be plenty of intense hand fighting and a continuing battle for positioning. There will be very little retreating.
Suriano will take bottom. At least in the first match.
Neither kid will give an inch.
Advantage to Lee as far as the quality of the room he is currently training in.
Advantage to Suriano as far as conditioning (knee limitations vs no limitations) and brute strength.
Helluva match.
I felt the same way. They are both incredible talents, and obviously can beat each other. However, to me Lee has a slight advantage in that he is always on the attack while Suriano is content to play defense. He (Nick) seems to pride himself on not giving up any takedowns, but as a result this minimizes his offense. JMO.
I think this will play Lee's way more times than not. If Lee gets a takedown/s and lead, I think he wins, a la Gilman last year. Hard to turn on the offense last minute against a great one, whereas if Lee gives up a takedown because of his aggressiveness, you know he can get it back. (think Zain, Nolf). Sometimes you give to get.
As others have said, it will be a barn burner either way and I'll go out on a limb and say one of them will win.
If you don’t think this match will be competitive, you know nothing about wrestling.
It’s a toss up at best, and realistically Suriano would be a slight favorite if there were true odds. Spencer has wrestled 3 matches in his career, none of note, and coming off major ACL surgery. I get optimism, but I just don’t get how rose colored glasses can be as strong as the ones several posters are wearing.
*Either it’s bias, but could also be that they have very little knowledge about Suriano. Maybe they saw the Gilman match and that’s the extent of it.
If I had a nickel for every time that I've heard that about "the next big thing," I'd be able to take the time to follow high school rasslin-if I even wanted to-as working would be a non-issue.
Oddly enough, I've heard that from the Iowa legion as much as any other legion of fans.
It'll be fun to return to this post someday. She's a marked in my bookmarks!
Was it that epic win over Skyler Petry that secured Lee’s place as one of the all-time great top wrestlers in NCAA history?
Spencer Lee is going to lose to somebody at some point, healthy or not, could be to Suriano, who is an excellent wrestler in his own right. That's what reality would indicate. Cael lost to Paul Jenn, and the greatest wrestler in my lifetime lost to Larry Owing.
This is how it goes.
All indications point to Spencer Lee having an excellent career as an Iowa Hawkeye, I'll just try to enjoy it while it lasts.
This is how it goes.
All indications point to Spencer Lee having an excellent career as an Iowa Hawkeye, I'll just try to enjoy it while it lasts.
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