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Liberal Insanity put into law in NYC. Now dudes can pee with the ladies!

Ok. What's the fix?
I wouldn't have gone down the road in the first place but if a city like Nyc thinks they need this, at least give women a place to use the restroom without worry of men walking in whenever they want. Men's restroom, women's restroom, unisex restroom makes the most sense. If a transgender like Cait, who is clearly identifying as a women wants to use the women's restroom, fine. If some dude wants to walk into the women's restroom to hangout while women come and go, that's not okay. As is now, he'd just have to claim to be a gender denialist and he'd be fine to do whatever he wanted.
 
Barking up the wrong tree again Fred. I Don't have any issues with the gheys and that isn't my gripe here. But men don't need open access to women's restrooms. Nyc is a cit with a lot of bad people. There are over 1,000 rapes/yr in the city and exponentially more physical assaults and letting men walk into women's restrooms unrestricted isn't going to make most women feel any more safe or comfortable. Plus it's just plain wrong and we're it an R passing this law you'd be saying the same.

Again answer the question. DC has had this in place for 10 years. Where are all the rapes? Where's all these hidden cameras in public restrooms? I wonder why we haven't heard about these things with how bad you and others are making it out to be. So in reality, you can say it's not about the gays or transgenders until you're blue in the face but nobody will believe you. The root of this issue for people like you are the gays and transgenders. Period.
 
I wouldn't have gone down the road in the first place but if a city like Nyc thinks they need this, at least give women a place to use the restroom without worry of men walking in whenever they want. Men's restroom, women's restroom, unisex restroom makes the most sense. If a transgender like Cait, who is clearly identifying as a women wants to use the women's restroom, fine. If some dude wants to walk into the women's restroom to hangout while women come and go, that's not okay. As is now, he'd just have to claim to be a gender denialist and he'd be fine to do whatever he wanted.
So who judges if someone is fine like Cait or some dude that's not ok?
 
Sgt Schultz

All I'm asking is that you take care of your students. Listen to their problems. Even if you don't agree with their problem or understand their problem try to be the adult and take it seriously. If it's important to them it should be important to you. I hope for their sake you're able to swallow your pride.
 
I think it's a day by day thing.

Today I really gotta go, so I'm heading into the dudes side to use the urinal bank.

Tomorrow, I'm going into the ladies side, because I'm bound up and their side is usually cleaner.

Either way, I like to give the boys a splash in the sink on the way out.
 
theIowaHawk doing some work in this thread

Totally.

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I think it's a day by day thing.

Today I really gotta go, so I'm heading into the dudes side to use the urinal bank.

Tomorrow, I'm going into the ladies side, because I'm bound up and their side is usually cleaner.

Either way, I like to give the boys a splash in the sink on the way out.

You've really mailed it in the last few weeks. I actually used to chuckle at some of your posts. Take a break for awhile. Come back fresh.
 
You've really mailed it in the last few weeks. I actually used to chuckle at some of your posts. Take a break for awhile. Come back fresh.

You missed me.

I've been gone for a few weeks.

I missed you too.
 
Again answer the question. DC has had this in place for 10 years. Where are all the rapes? Where's all these hidden cameras in public restrooms? I wonder why we haven't heard about these things with how bad you and others are making it out to be. So in reality, you can say it's not about the gays or transgenders until you're blue in the face but nobody will believe you. The root of this issue for people like you are the gays and transgenders. Period.

Maybe you should review DC's results.

http://www.washingtonblade.com/2010/12/16/d-c-not-enforcing-bathroom-law/
 
Again answer the question. DC has had this in place for 10 years. Where are all the rapes? Where's all these hidden cameras in public restrooms? I wonder why we haven't heard about these things with how bad you and others are making it out to be. So in reality, you can say it's not about the gays or transgenders until you're blue in the face but nobody will believe you. The root of this issue for people like you are the gays and transgenders. Period.

That's only for single stall bathrooms, dipshit. That isn't what people are worried about here.
 
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Again answer the question. DC has had this in place for 10 years. Where are all the rapes? Where's all these hidden cameras in public restrooms? I wonder why we haven't heard about these things with how bad you and others are making it out to be. So in reality, you can say it's not about the gays or transgenders until you're blue in the face but nobody will believe you. The root of this issue for people like you are the gays and transgenders. Period.
No, people with no argument or logical stance other than to claim bigotry will not believe me. Those with common sense and that understand there is a difference between men and women, and respect the boundaries between the two, those people get the point.
 
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So the straights are the ones assaulting the transgenders? This thread alone should tell you that isn't surprising

Two transgender women were assaulted in the Petworth area in March after trying to use the women’s room at a local restaurant. Unfortunately, incidents like this are all too common, even in the District of Columbia. Often the presence of a transgender or gender non-conforming individual in the bathroom results in assault, insults and police intervention

So basically that link tells me that the straights are assholes. They assault people and deny them their right. Because of this cops could care less and the law really isn't enforced. So where's all the rape, secret videotaping, molestation, etc, etc, etc. I mean that's what this is really going to lead to.
 
So the straights are the ones assaulting the transgenders? This thread alone should tell you that isn't surprising

Two transgender women were assaulted in the Petworth area in March after trying to use the women’s room at a local restaurant. Unfortunately, incidents like this are all too common, even in the District of Columbia. Often the presence of a transgender or gender non-conforming individual in the bathroom results in assault, insults and police intervention

So basically that link tells me that the straights are assholes. They assault people and deny them their right. Because of this cops could care less and the law really isn't enforced. So where's all the rape, secret videotaping, molestation, etc, etc, etc. I mean that's what this is really going to lead to.

No doubt.

When are you going to worry about straight women's fears?
 
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No, people with no argument or logical stance other than to claim bigotry will not believe me. Those with common sense and that understand there is a difference between men and women, and respect the boundaries between the two, those people get the point.

Washington DC is that elephant in the room you just don't want to acknowledge. Probably because it throws you argument out on its ass. Normal for you when we start peeling back the layers.
 
No doubt.

When are you going to worry about straight women's fears?

Assault = Self Defense? I mean in the eyes of a George Zimmerman Republican that makes sense. To the rest of us we usually don't equate the two.
 
Assault = Self Defense? I mean in the eyes of a George Zimmerman Republican that makes sense. To the rest of us we usually don't equate the two.

So, when will the fears of straight women/girls matter?
 
You're acknowledging transgenders and minimizing women.

I just wanted to know your scoring method.

Is it like converting metric to standard? Double it and add 30?

I'm not minimizing women at all, and I'm not sure what this "scoring" you are talking about is.

The City of New York now has unisex bathrooms and the OP was posted in order to fear monger that badguys would be taking up residence (somehow with the grace of the city?) in women's restrooms. I called out that idiocy.

I'm not sure what you are devolving this to now, but I'm glad to see you concerned about the trans community.
 
Washington DC is that elephant in the room you just don't want to acknowledge. Probably because it throws you argument out on its ass. Normal for you when we start peeling back the layers.
This law is totally different than DCs. You've already been shown to be clueless about this.
This thread isn't about DC. I don't know what's gone on in DC and don't claim to. What I'm confident I know is most women don't want men to have unfettered access to their restrooms with no restrictions. Is your wife cool with that?
 
I'm not minimizing women at all, and I'm not sure what this "scoring" you are talking about is.

The City of New York now has unisex bathrooms and the OP was posted in order to fear monger that badguys would be taking up residence (somehow with the grace of the city?) in women's restrooms. I called out that idiocy.

I'm not sure what you are devolving this to now, but I'm glad to see you concerned about the trans community.

I am concerned about the Trans community WWJD.

I just don't think it should be at the expense of straight women like you do.
 
Does she take dumps while you're 2 feet away brushing your teeth? What about when you have house guests, does your wife and other male guests go to the restroom at the same time? Dumb example is dumb.
There are times when marriage isn't as sexy and cute as you might think, mattski........Unisex restrooms are quite common and have been for years...ever been to downtown IC on a Friday or Saturday night at a bar?
 
Oh it's real. I just think don't think little kids are mature enough to make that decision. I was actually standing by a group of transgender people while waiting for a pizza the other night. One was trying to talk another out of having surgery on his/her face.

They were going to have a penis added to their face? Wait...don't tell me they were removing one from it.

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Washington, D.C., passed similar legislation in 2006, and in the past two years several other communities — including Philadelphia; Austin, Tex.; and Multnomah County, Ore., where Portland is — have passed laws requiring gender-neutral bathrooms.

2006!!! That's 10 years ago. Sadly I haven't come across all this amateur footage you ensure will now be available. Where was you outrage then? What about the handful of cities that passed it in 2014? I don't remember you being upset then. Were you and your buddy that went to the Eagles game filmed without your yconsent? Did you throw a temper tantrum in the middle of Fairmount Park because they had unisex bathrooms?

I think you'd do us all a favor and just admit that you don't really understand what you're arguing about. You're "afraid" of transgender people because they're a mystery to you. So instead of actually educating yourself you throw around words like "pervert" and associate everyone to your own paradigm. And to think you actually mold young minds. Scary shit.

Your dime store psychological reading of me aside...here are a bunch of examples of bad stuff done by deviant men in public restrooms. Mind you, most of them had to disguise themselves as women to gain access to them because in reality, even deviant pieces of shit don't like to get caught.

Now you can say these are no reason to worry about anything, but the parents and family members of these victims probably all thought the same way but don't anymore.

I just read an article titled "Rape Survivor Speaks Out About Transgendered Restrooms".

http://thefederalist.com/2015/11/23/a-rape-survivor-speaks-out-about-transgender-bathrooms/

In it she says, "I read these reports, and my heart starts to race. They can’t be serious. Let me be clear: I am not saying that transgender people are predators. Not by a long shot. What I am saying is that there are countless deviant men in this world who will pretend to be transgender as a means of gaining access to the people they want to exploit, namely women and children. It already happens. Just Google Jason Pomares, Norwood Smith Burnes, or Taylor Buehler, for starters."

So I googled those men. Most had to dress as women to gain access to women's restrooms. Now they don't have to.

Jason Pomares

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/l...elope-Valley-Palmdale-Restroom-207541101.html


Charges were filed Tuesday against a man who wore a wig and women's clothing to disguise himself as he allegedly used a concealed camera to record "hours" of video of women in a Los Angeles-area department store restroom.

Jason Pomare, 33, of Palmdale, was arrested Saturday after customers contacted security officers at a Macy's store to report a man in the women's restroom. The security officers contacted a deputy, who was on patrol at the Antelope Valley Mall (map) when he saw a man matching the subject's description leave the store.


Norwood Smith Burnes

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local/cross-dressing-man-arrested-for-exposure-at-walmar/nQddG/

A 51-year-old man wearing women's clothing was arrested for allegedly undressing in front of children at Walmart.

Police say Norwood Smith Burnes, 51, of Rome, has a long record of indecent exposure and was on probation for public indecency when the latest incident occurred in the women's bathroom at Walmart in Calhoun, the Rome News-Tribune reported.

Burnes was in "stages of undress while on the stone floor and would do this in the presence of several young children," witnesses told police. When police arrived, they found Burnes wearing a short skirt and jacket, black leather coat, high heels, red nail polish, green eye shadow and jewelry.

Taylor Buehler and others

Police: Sex offender posed as woman, went into women's locker room
A registered sex offender dressed up like a woman, went into a women's locker room at a pool and talked with several children before being chased down by a good Samaritan, according to the Clackamas County Sheriff's Office.
http://www.komonews.com/news/local/125111914.html
http://www.katu.com/news/local/132679743.html

Police: Man in bra and wig found in women's bathroom - admitted to other offense where he showered in the girls' locker room for sexual gratification
A man wearing a bra and wig was arrested Friday after he was spotted in a women's bathroom at Everett Community College, police said. The man, later identified as Taylor J. Buehler, 18, of Lake Stevens, was placed under arrest. He admitted to officers that he was the suspect in an earlier voyeurism incident at Everett Community College on Monday, police said. In the earlier incident, he said he took a shower in the girls' locker room for sexual gratification, according to the police report.
http://www.komonews.com/news/local/...omens-bathroom-wearing-bra-wig-142987265.html

Cross-dressing Peeper Infiltrates
Cal Women's Locker Room On Monday, October 4, 2010 at 9:20 p.m. and again on Wednesday, October 6, 2010 at 4:30 p.m. a male disguised as a female was discovered in the Recreational Sports Facility women’s locker room. On both occasions the suspect fled the scene when confronted by staff members. In one of the instances the suspect was seen using a cell phone to photograph women inside the locker room. After each occurrence UCPD searched the area but was unable to locate the suspect. No one was physically contacted during these encounters.
http://www.eastbayexpress.com/92510...ing-peeper-infiltrates-cal-womens-locker-room

Man dressed as woman tried to take pictures in dorm, police say
Sheriff's officials said their investigation revealed Petersen dressed as a woman and went to other "female-only facilities" in Rancho Cucamonga and Yucaipa, where he allegedly tried to take pictures with a cellphone hidden in his purse.
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-man-allegedly-dressed-woman-20130624-story.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/25/rodney-kenneth-petersen_n_3496651.html

Purdue police investigate report of man taking photographs in women's restroom
Purdue University police are investigating a reported incident in which a man dressed as a woman was seen taking photographs under the wall of a women's bathroom stall in Yue-Kong Pao Hall of Visual and Performing Arts. According to a police report, a woman was in a bathroom stall on the third floor of the building and saw a hand holding a blue flip-phone camera beneath the door. She left the restroom and then returned to confront the person. At that point, she realized the person was a man dressed as a woman.
https://news.uns.purdue.edu/x/2008a/080331PoliceVPA.html

Transgender Student in Women’s Locker Room Raises Uproar - Exposes Self to Underage Girls
The decision to allow a transgender 45-year-old college student who identifies as a woman but has male genitalia to use the women’s locker room has raised a fracas among parents and faith-based organizations, who say children as young as 6 years old use the locker room. The locker room at Evergreen College in Olympia, Wash., is shared with the Capital High School swim club and a children’s swim academy, along with the students at Evergreen. “The college has to follow state law,” Evergreen spokesman Jason Wettstein told ABC News affiliate KOMO. “The college cannot discriminate based on the basis of gender identity. Gender identity is one of the protected things in discrimination law in this state.” But according to parents, the fact that the student has exposed her male genitalia, in one instance in the sauna, is cause for concern. “[A mother] reported her daughter was upset because she observed a person at the women’s locker room naked and displaying male genitalia,” said a police report filed in September by a mother on behalf of her 17-year-old daughter.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlin...-student-in-womens-locker-room-raises-uproar/
http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarne...der-man-to-expose-himself-to-young-girls.html

  • The above example is a case where a transgender person is following the law and nothing is reported that indicates they are intending harm to any individual. However parents of the young girls in this locker room are still concerned about a person with male genitalia being allowed to disrobe and enter a previously protected are for women & children.

http://www.protectfayetteville.com/dangers-to-women-and-children.html
 
Tom, Yellow, Trad, whoever:

Did the prior law actually stop any of this activity (switching restrooms, voyeurism, rape) from taking place? If not in any objective way, why would the new law matter?

Believe it or not, people don't like getting caught committing crimes. In my last post you can see where several of the, had to dress as women to gain access to the restrooms. Now, they don't have to. Remember, these are only the sick effers that got caught. How many haven't? How many times did the ones who did do it beforehand? They had to have some success doing it before in order to build up to the balls to try it like that.

Fred smartly ignored the portion of my post where I said if my 12 year old daughter went into a Central Park restroom followed by two dudes, I'd be worried. You know why he ignored it? Because he knows he'd be worried too...or else he'd be completely irresponsible.

How about you? 12 year old daughter goes into Central Park bathroom followed by two men. You're OK with taking your chances with how that scenario unfolds?
 
At the Doctor Phillips Center tonight, I noticed that they had "Men's Rooms" and "Family Rooms" (with a woman figure and two child figures for the "Family Room").

It's really getting ridiculous, folks.
 
Believe it or not, people don't like getting caught committing crimes. In my last post you can see where several of the, had to dress as women to gain access to the restrooms. Now, they don't have to. Remember, these are only the sick effers that got caught. How many haven't? How many times did the ones who did do it beforehand? They had to have some success doing it before in order to build up to the balls to try it like that.

Fred smartly ignored the portion of my post where I said if my 12 year old daughter went into a Central Park restroom followed by two dudes, I'd be worried. You know why he ignored it? Because he knows he'd be worried too...or else he'd be completely irresponsible.

How about you? 12 year old daughter goes into Central Park bathroom followed by two men. You're OK with taking your chances with how that scenario unfolds?

Here is what you are missing and refuse to listen to:

How does that change with this law? According to you there are a lot of "sick effers", some of which you are claiming are dressing up as women. So what you seem to be upset about is your possible knowing of the concern, instead of going in with your 12 year old daughter to protect her? Because according to YOUR POSTS she wasn't protected when you claim she was ... by a sign that did nothing.
 
At the Doctor Phillips Center tonight, I noticed that they had "Men's Rooms" and "Family Rooms" (with a woman figure and two child figures for the "Family Room").

It's really getting ridiculous, folks.

I can't tell if you are joking, but those are incredibly common. The "family rooms" are usually set up for a parent and multiple children to be there all at the same time, like changing a baby while monitoring a small child going potty, or the parent to go shit while their kids are right there and not licking the urinals.

Very common in places such as that or malls or the like. It isn't a gender issue.
 
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