I do think Abe can make big strides and looks like the weight opens up out of the top 2 or 3 guys. Looks like we have 4 big holes or question marks now for next year and that would be 133, 49, 174, and 197. Based on that we are looking at another year without a title. How long do the coaches have without winning titles. I know number 2 is considered great by most standards, but Iowa is not most places. Does Brands stay around long enough for Spencer to step in?
Line up next year?
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Franklin needs to put in some work this summer on the senior level circuit. Gladiator camp.
I would say 149 and 197 are question makes. 133 should be Teske and 174 should be Brands (unless there is something that I am not aware of).
I said in my post if he doesn't AA thus year he should be at risk. That would mean he'd have no AA finishes in 2 years (2020 don't count).
At that point it's fair to kick the tires on potential transfers.
Not saying dump the kid but if someone wants to come challenge for that spot, bring em in.
If he goes to NCAAs and gets on the podium that's a big step forward and I'd feel much better about his future.
Who called this guy back?
Next time he says 'I will hang up and listen' leave it at that
Next year is going to be interesting. As the rosters stand right now PSU is the likely champion. However if Iowa can upgrade a couple spots with some podium transfers Iowa has a real shot. Ayala, Woods and Cass are all have finals talent. Things potentially open up for Abe.
Bonus points could be a big problem next year for the team race. That and Iowa has a lot of guys you just don't know what your going to get. They could make the championship or they could fall off the podium and everything in-between. Thats been the biggest difference between PSU and Iowa. PSU relies on a few studs that make the championship. Iowa relies on guys that can place anywhere from 2 - off the podium.
Bonus points could be a big problem next year for the team race. That and Iowa has a lot of guys you just don't know what your going to get. They could make the championship or they could fall off the podium and everything in-between. Thats been the biggest difference between PSU and Iowa. PSU relies on a few studs that make the championship. Iowa relies on guys that can place anywhere from 2 - off the podium.
Yea I have to agree. I don;t think Assad is one of the guys you are looking to replace or need to replace. 197 would appear too be the biggest need. I am hoping this Brands riding into the sunset talk is just talk?
ohh ok I should have known that…. didn’t realize he still had a redshirt
nothing Nelson does would surprise me very much
174 is definitely weight that needs an upgrade. Brands has yet to prove he has win those big matches.
Well it would certainly surprise me if he walked away. I get that he isn't exactly like his dad and uncle as far as wrestling maniacs. I also see he seems to be somewhat of a free spirit who enjoys other things. Still, he is pretty darn good and very close to AA caliber.
Not sure what his career path after college is or where he is as far as graduating? Having another year, and I am guessing free tuition because of his dad, would seem to make it an easy choice. Maybe the pressure and demands are getting to him? Seems a little crazy to me!
As far as what people are posting about filling weights. Using Assad and Brands as examples here. No, currently their level is not what brings in championships, we all get that. They are certainly not "holes" in the line up though. You need to have some Hammers who are champion type wrestlers. Would be nice to have 10 of them for sure, but no one has figured out how to do that yet!
We have Woods, BIG Cass, and I am hoping Kennedy who fit the Hammer rolls right now. It appears that Chittum will hit the ground running and be on that list and we need him to be for sure. Ayla, and Teske bring it to 6 very high quality wrestlers. (Cobe I am leaving off for now because I think we need to see more)Add in Assad and Brands and you have 8 of 10 who ALL could be AAs.
Now the formula/ path I see is to add Hammers where you have the biggest need. Right now, without putting any of our great Wrestlers down. I see it as 197, and either 149 or 157 depending on Chittum. Very easy to write this, NOT so easy to do.
Now if a Hammer at another weight suddenly becomes available, do you go after him? YES!!!
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We aren’t spoiled. We’re Iowa. 2nd best program in the country. It’s not where we want to be but it ain’t bad. There are horses in the portal every year and Iowa is in good position as a potential destination.
I mean they went from 2010 to 2021 and did not seem to be a red hot seat so I would say at least 5 years between championships unless the team has a not performance related sandal, tickets stop selling, or they fall out of the top 10 or so.
Your Brian reference was idiotic. Not as idiotic as your Spencer claim a few weeks ago but that’s tough to top. Maybe impossible.
Brian reference? LMAO. Everyone knows he got that job because of his last name and is not qualified.
Spencer claim? What's funny is that if you actually go back and read that thread, you will see a poster confirmed my comment.
Stay moronic.
You could claim that Brian is doing a bad job now and should be fired or demoted. You could argue that his name and football pedigree have played a role in his whole life but honestly if another guy had started his career as a scout for a pro team , then promoted to a position coach, had success at that level then moved to a similar position at a power five school and had success in that role that he would be up for a coordinator position. I don't agree with everything Brian has done and it might make sense to fire him but don't act like he walked right into his current role or did not pay any dues.
I guess that goes to your definition of a hole or not. I consider 33 and 74 as holes as I don't see either of them doing much more than 1-2 or 2-2 at nationals. That will not win team titles if you have more than a couple of those weights. Right now I would say you could have 33, 49, 57, 74, 84, 97 as questionable for all american next year. I have hope that Chitthum takes 49, Code improves at 57, and I think Abe is better than he has shown. That leaves me with real questions at 33 (let's see how Teske finishes this year), 74, and 97. And 57 is still up in the air as well.
Sure seems to me that we could/should plug and play with Chittum next year.
Franklin beat Glazier at the Soldier Salute
They were back and forth at the Soldier Salute. Kolby won a really, reallllllly close match. 1-2 points.
I didn’t realize he said he wasn’t. Not saying he didn’t. That said RBY wasn’t coming back this year and here he is. Two years from now, who knows.
I don't believe you.
Definitely don’t need to upgrade as many weights as some may think. 133 was mentioned and it does clear out some and Teske will only get better I am good with him. 149 was mentioned no thanks Chittum will be Really good. 157 is a weight that I would be interested in upgrading if Seibrect does not make the stand. 174 is a possible issue depending on if Brands comes back or not. 184 is Assad and it would be hard for me to believe you would want to have someone come in when we know Arnold is coming. 197 is a issue right now but Franklin can improve remember most true freshman are not superstars.
Heard rumors of that, never saw anything official and on flo they still have him listed as not having a new school. Very well could be at Michigan though
Maybe i just read rumors. He does like a lot of Michigan wrestling tweets on Twitter.
Taking more than 1-2 shots in a match wouldn't surprise you?
There is a Jakob Woodley in the Mich student directory. Idk if same guy or not but probably.
He doesn’t, unless he wants to give a cut to 157 a try or bulk up to 174. Bulking up is probably his best bet.
Any weight without a guy penciled in as an AA should be open game for an upgrade.
