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Looking Back on the Hiring of Fran...

Mar 14, 2003
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Despite some of the frustrations, I think it's safe to say that Iowa made the right choice. Remember, some of the other options floated around...

Stew Morrill - low energy, no excitement
Tony Barbee - Fired at Auburn
Brad Brownell - very average at Clemson
Brian Gregory - Fired at Georgia Tech

Those were the main options suggested.

Dana Altman would have been a home run, but wasn't he mentioned when Lick was hired?
 
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Wow totally forgot about these names. Good list and reminder how Iowa got it right after getting it so wrong the time before. Steve Forbes I do remember lot of people bringing him up. Think he ended up coaching at lower level school. Also with Fran remember bobby Hansen speaking very highly and was on the search committe and Fran was his guy.
 
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Steve Forbes!

I am not sure this was/is the place for him.

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Wow totally forgot about these names. Good list and reminder how Iowa got it right after getting it so wrong the time before. Steve Forbes I do remember lot of people bringing him up. Think he ended up coaching at lower level school. Also with Fran remember bobby Hansen speaking very highly and was on the search committe and Fran was his guy.
Forbes is at ETSU, remember them? They punched their ticket last night, and have some athletes. Parea from IU is there, decent player.
 
When lick left the list was:

Pearl
Crean
Altman
Stallings
Wojcik
Gregory

Notice that Lickliter wasn't on the list lol.

We did not have a good pool when Lick left. Absolute home run hire given the awful circumstances.
 
When lick left the list was:

Pearl
Crean
Altman
Stallings
Wojcik
Gregory

Notice that Lickliter wasn't on the list lol.

We did not have a good pool when Lick left. Absolute home run hire given the awful circumstances[/QUOTE]

Agreed, but its also a good thing Margaret was from the Midwest. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I also think we were one step (or year) ahead of Minnesota conducting a coaching search for their men's basketball program, which may have yielded a much different result if both jobs were open at the same time considering the family ties to the state of Minnesota.

So thankful Barta pulled the plug on Lickliter, whether he was pressured to do so or not.
 
There was strong contingent of posters on this board that though Lickliter deserved a 4th year. If Gatens hadn't threatened to transfer and forced Barta's hand, he was going to give Lickliter that 4th year.
Believe it or not, but during the BTT and shortly after Iowa lost it's final game, it was the vocal minority that wanted TL gone. Most wanted to give him the fourth year.
 
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I was done with Lick during year 3 after we got killed at Michigan...the SOB had the stupidity to throw the entire team under the bus...except Little Lick....who actually made a few plays because his Dad played him more than a handful of minutes.

talking with Dolph after the game on the radio ...after he basically said every player on the team didnt bring their game & he didnt understand why none of them did..and acted like they didnt want to be there....blah blah blah

Dolph (paraphrasing) "Jon played well Todd"....mumbles something like...,,,,well I guess I should have been playing Jon more ..ALL ALONG..

all along???? you SOB...you would rather play your freaken kid (who couldnt make honorable mention in high school)...

done...with Lick right there...my god...the man ran us into a brick wall..and the only one he gave a shit about picking up???? Little Lick.
 
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I like to record for my prosperity the Iowa games broadcast on 9.2 on Saturday mornings. The smattering of Lute games, the Tom Davis era games that the university has on file predominates - along with Alford era big wins. They don't have much if anything before those eras and it's almost all home games. The "prize recording" has been the Georgetown game so far.

I'd bet the lacking of several memorable games is rights to the games...so many big games are not available.

I steadfastly refuse to record Alford and Lick games. Those "classic wins" were fool's gold. There was nothing really in retrospect to like about those years. I am thankful for each and every player in that era...but as a fan, it was the program going down Titanic-style.

Re-watching that era just plain leaves a very bad taste.

I'm old enough to remember the Dick Schultz era...it really stunk, my formative Hawkeye fan years, and having so much "we have no hope here" permeating when listening to games. I remember listening to a game against Wooden and UCLA and Gonder stating that even the score indicated "only" a 20 or so point win (I think Walton was out) - the game was never, ever in doubt.

Almost like Wooden took it easy on Iowa.

A lot of games like that those 3 years. No hope.

Lick's 2nd year, I started checking out. I never have liked watching train wrecks in any fashion in life. It reminded me of the Schultz era.

So, yeah...I like Fran. Sure, this year we had Virginia and NW this year, lessons being dished out...but Fran's teams usually fight most every game, and he's resuscitated the fan base into actually caring again.

I'm a fan. I'm somewhat puzzled at times, but I'm a fan.
 
Someone with some knowledge tell me what happened at GT with Gregory?

Looks like he left quite a bit of talent there and his last year had 21 wins.
 
I like to record for my prosperity the Iowa games broadcast on 9.2 on Saturday mornings. The smattering of Lute games, the Tom Davis era games that the university has on file predominates - along with Alford era big wins. They don't have much if anything before those eras and it's almost all home games. The "prize recording" has been the Georgetown game so far.

I'd bet the lacking of several memorable games is rights to the games...so many big games are not available.

I steadfastly refuse to record Alford and Lick games. Those "classic wins" were fool's gold. There was nothing really in retrospect to like about those years. I am thankful for each and every player in that era...but as a fan, it was the program going down Titanic-style.

Re-watching that era just plain leaves a very bad taste.

I'm old enough to remember the Dick Schultz era...it really stunk, my formative Hawkeye fan years, and having so much "we have no hope here" permeating when listening to games. I remember listening to a game against Wooden and UCLA and Gonder stating that even the score indicated "only" a 20 or so point win (I think Walton was out) - the game was never, ever in doubt.

Almost like Wooden took it easy on Iowa.

A lot of games like that those 3 years. No hope.

Lick's 2nd year, I started checking out. I never have liked watching train wrecks in any fashion in life. It reminded me of the Schultz era.

So, yeah...I like Fran. Sure, this year we had Virginia and NW this year, lessons being dished out...but Fran's teams usually fight most every game, and he's resuscitated the fan base into actually caring again.

I'm a fan. I'm somewhat puzzled at times, but I'm a fan.

One of the greatest games in Iowa history was when Ralph '65 team team beat Wooden & #1 ranked UCLA in Chicago,

Schultz...ya some weird happenings. Got off to a tough start when the JC transfer James Speed went blind right before the season started. IMO..he tried to run Miller's style without Miller type talent...instead of 6'2-6'7" speedsters he had the Fegebanks & Collins.

I did give him credit for resigning after year 4 ..cause Bump was going to give him Year 5...
 
And that is why I'll forever be grateful to the Gatens family.
This X 100! They saved the program. Without Gatens threatening to transfer I don't think Barta pulls the trigger.

Fran is a homrun hit. Things are only going to get better from here on out. Enjoy the ride.
 
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Fran was just completely off the grid from the rumored names everyone was hearing. When they named him it came out of left field. I knew who he was with the success Siena had and I knew they got up and down the floor, but that's about all I knew. Once more info came in about who he was and his background I was pretty intrigued.
 
Apparently Fran's name is popping up in the Missouri coaching search. Of course, I get why any AD trying to rebuild a power 5 program would want to hire Fran, but no way he would leave, especially for Missouri. The Big Ten to the SEC? With his sons lined up to come here, and the phenomenal Freshman talent he has, it would be pretty crazy to go elsewhere. I think especially once Connor puts on a uniform then Fran is here for life. He's not going to leave while one of his sons is here (6 years) and after that he'd probably be too old to go elsewhere.
 
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Believe it or not, but during the BTT and shortly after Iowa lost it's final game, it was the vocal minority that wanted TL gone. Most wanted to give him the fourth year.

I don't know about that. I know this fan had seen more than enough from Lickliter to want him gone.
 
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There was strong contingent of posters on this board that though Lickliter deserved a 4th year. If Gatens hadn't threatened to transfer and forced Barta's hand, he was going to give Lickliter that 4th year.
Is this more than a rumor and gossip on sports forums or a fact written down somewhere?
 
Apparently Fran's name is popping up in the Missouri coaching search. Of course, I get why any AD trying to rebuild a power 5 program would want to hire Fran, but no way he would leave, especially for Missouri. The Big Ten to the SEC? With his sons lined up to come here, and the phenomenal Freshman talent he has, it would be pretty crazy to go elsewhere. I think especially once Connor puts on a uniform then Fran is here for life. He's not going to leave while one of his sons is here (6 years) and after that he'd probably be too old to go elsewhere.

I was listening to sports radio here in Kansas City this morning. They made it sound like Missouri was hot on Tom Crean if he is fired or "resigns" at Indiana. They were interviewing Mike Decourcy and he was doing his best to be diplomatic about Crean's situation at Indiana.
 
This X 100! They saved the program. Without Gatens threatening to transfer I don't think Barta pulls the trigger.

Fran is a homrun hit. Things are only going to get better from here on out. Enjoy the ride.

Take it for what its worth but have a friend who is friends with a member of the Gatens family. Rumor has it that Matt was looking at Creighton (Grant Gibbs good friend of his there ) or New Mexico if he transferred. Guess the Gatens actually liked Alford but Mike Gatens was pretty straight forward letting Barta know that Matt was gone if Lick returned.
 
ya I dont remember reading a vocal minority...doesnt matter anyway..first Iowa basketball coach to get canned in a long time.
I clearly remember there were about three or four posters who wanted Lick out ASAP (Legend, Doublestandard, MTown). Once it was announced that Lick was out, it seemed that most people were on board with the decision. Before Barta announced it though, it seemed that most posters were okay with another year.

I don't see Doublestander's handle anymore, but I'd be interested to see if he's still around and what he posts under now.
 
I think it was reported by moderators here. Is that gossip?
There was a guy named Cali something who seemed to have an inside source to the situation. He was calling details well before they were announced. Like Kelly and Fuller leaving. Gatens and Cole were looking around. I can't remember all of his info, but he was spot on with everything and well before it became public info.

He posted that Lick was out and the Gatens' were threatening to transfer if he remained at Iowa. After all of the defections, Barta didn't have a choice.
 
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I was listening to sports radio here in Kansas City this morning. They made it sound like Missouri was hot on Tom Crean if he is fired or "resigns" at Indiana. They were interviewing Mike Decourcy and he was doing his best to be diplomatic about Crean's situation at Indiana.
I was listening to sports radio here in Kansas City this morning. They made it sound like Missouri was hot on Tom Crean if he is fired or "resigns" at Indiana. They were interviewing Mike Decourcy and he was doing his best to be diplomatic about Crean's situation at Indiana.
I REALLY hate to admit it, especially as a Mizzou alumnous, but I think Crean would be a great fit and probably have more success at Mizzou than Indiana.
 
I REALLY hate to admit it, especially as a Mizzou alumnous, but I think Crean would be a great fit and probably have more success at Mizzou than Indiana.

I think you're absolutely right. In the SEC, you have Kentucky, Florida and it gets pretty random after that.
 
If I remember right, no one was defending Lickliter by his third year. There were some who had concerns about firing any coach 3 years in, but that was the extent of it.
 
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