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I overheard a couple old dudes at Hy-Vee talking about Trump and how he just needs time to fix everything from the last administration’s fvck ups. Should I have said something to them? I thought about it but didn’t want to make scene. Next time it happens I’m going to say something. Change starts with me!
Oh yes, you should have loudly called them pieces of shit to their face. Throw in a fascist/Hitler/Putin-lover and you’ve truly then done the Lord’s work.
 
On the internet or at my house? It’s just my wife and I here and we both agree Trump is an idiot.
At work?
While I’m grocery shopping?
Where should I be loud and vocal?
That is for you to decide. I don’t spout politics very much in my “real life”. But if someone presents it to me I let them know my opinion, regardless if they will be offended or not. The attacks on the constitution and justification from right wing media is very troubling and some people only get their news from right wing media. Not sure what else we can do but let MAGA know we aren’t going to roll over and take it. It’s a serious situation. Do you ignore the check engine light in your car?
 
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That is for you to decide. I don’t spout politics very much in my “real life”. But if someone presents it to me I let them know my opinion, regardless if they will be offended or not. The attacks on the constitution and justification from right wing media is very troubling and some people only get their news from right wing media. Not sure what else we can do but let MAGA know we aren’t going to roll over and take it. It’s a serious situation. Do you ignore the check engine light in your car?
No, but I let a trained professional fix it. I don’t do it myself. I also don’t ever talk politics IRL.
 
On the way to a military event one time I flew through Ireland and the sargents were like you can only have one alcohol. So I look and see what the Irish were drinking and order one too because I assumed it was something hard as hell. I was pretty disappointed to find out I was drinking alcoholic apple juice. I haven't respected the Irish since that moment.
Sounds like you were drinking scrumpy
 
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No, but I let a trained professional fix it. I don’t do it myself. I also don’t ever talk politics IRL.

Action #5: Become an expert at spotting (and fighting) mis- and disinformation.​

In the hunt for a balanced information diet, we’ve got to equip ourselves to run into information that is not accurate; sometimes information that is spread accidentally (“misinformation”) and sometimes with intent to deliberately mislead (“disinformation”). This type of inaccurate information can come in a variety of shapes and sizes — and there’s not one entity or set of partisan players that has a monopoly on it.

For a quick overview, the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) offers a helpful, printable guide. And for those who really want to level up, Poynter’s MediaWise offers a myriad of resources to help you spot mis- and disinformation. Once you’ve mastered these skills, you can help others learn, too.

Action #14: Dialogue with people who don’t agree with you.​

This is a tough one, and in some cases may even be impossible. But if you can do it, it can have a profound impact on the fight to save our democracy. Find a way to sit down and have a conversation with someone you think (or know) may see things differently.

This is important: At this point, your goal is notto convince them they’re wrong. It’s to understand why they think the way they do and see if you can help them understand why you see things your way. There’s a good chance during this conversation that one or both of you will feel angry, and that’s okay. Try to keep it civil and keep the door open for future conversations if you can.

If you need help on this one, check out the Sustained Dialogue Institute. They can help you bring people of different views together in an intentional way. There’s also a great West Virginia Public Radio podcast called Us & Them, which explores all sides of the cultural issues that too often divide us.

When you’re ready:

  • Sit down with someone who disagrees with you, and discuss a difficult topic (like democracy).
  • Listen, and understand why they feel the way they do (doesn’t mean agree with them).
  • Help them understand why you feel the way you do. This may need to wait for a future conversation (below), and it doesn’t mean convincing them of your perspective.
  • Extra credit: Have a follow-up conversation in a few weeks.

Action #19: Reach out to your elected officials.​

Calling your local officials about an issue makes a big difference — as does just getting to know them better. Note that whoever answers the phone or checks email is keeping a tally of messages for and against a particular issue, so when you reach out, you don’t have to be particularly eloquent or barrage them with statistics. Just (civilly) make your position clear, and make sure they know you’re a constituent who votes.

As you become more sophisticated in your activism, try to understand which issues fall under which jurisdiction (local, state, federal). In other words, don’t call your U.S. senator about town zoning or your local council member about international conflicts.

  • If you haven’t yet, add your elected officials to your contacts.
  • Reach out to one (or more) elected official about an issue that falls into their jurisdiction; ask them what their priorities are for their next legislative session; or just get to know them better.
  • Extra credit: Ask your (local) contact list to do the same.
  • Extra credit: Get to know not only your elected officials but also their staff.

When the check engine light comes on in your democracy vehicle, being loud and vocal with the people who represent you is a good place to start. Maybe they will be more afraid of losing to the democratic candidate than getting primaried by Elon.
 
Damn guys, why so hateful? Are you upset that I called you out for being whiny little bitches?
You’re the person complaining from the start. You just another karen maga doing the complaining and closing your eye to what is happening. But you keep bitching about reality rather than facing it.
 
I overheard a couple old dudes at Hy-Vee talking about Trump and how he just needs time to fix everything from the last administration’s fvck ups. Should I have said something to them? I thought about it but didn’t want to make scene. Next time it happens I’m going to say something. Change starts with me!
H-Vee

Action #5: Become an expert at spotting (and fighting) mis- and disinformation.​

In the hunt for a balanced information diet, we’ve got to equip ourselves to run into information that is not accurate; sometimes information that is spread accidentally (“misinformation”) and sometimes with intent to deliberately mislead (“disinformation”). This type of inaccurate information can come in a variety of shapes and sizes — and there’s not one entity or set of partisan players that has a monopoly on it.

For a quick overview, the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) offers a helpful, printable guide. And for those who really want to level up, Poynter’s MediaWise offers a myriad of resources to help you spot mis- and disinformation. Once you’ve mastered these skills, you can help others learn, too.

Action #14: Dialogue with people who don’t agree with you.​

This is a tough one, and in some cases may even be impossible. But if you can do it, it can have a profound impact on the fight to save our democracy. Find a way to sit down and have a conversation with someone you think (or know) may see things differently.

This is important: At this point, your goal is notto convince them they’re wrong. It’s to understand why they think the way they do and see if you can help them understand why you see things your way. There’s a good chance during this conversation that one or both of you will feel angry, and that’s okay. Try to keep it civil and keep the door open for future conversations if you can.

If you need help on this one, check out the Sustained Dialogue Institute. They can help you bring people of different views together in an intentional way. There’s also a great West Virginia Public Radio podcast called Us & Them, which explores all sides of the cultural issues that too often divide us.

When you’re ready:

  • Sit down with someone who disagrees with you, and discuss a difficult topic (like democracy).
  • Listen, and understand why they feel the way they do (doesn’t mean agree with them).
  • Help them understand why you feel the way you do. This may need to wait for a future conversation (below), and it doesn’t mean convincing them of your perspective.
  • Extra credit: Have a follow-up conversation in a few weeks.

Action #19: Reach out to your elected officials.​

Calling your local officials about an issue makes a big difference — as does just getting to know them better. Note that whoever answers the phone or checks email is keeping a tally of messages for and against a particular issue, so when you reach out, you don’t have to be particularly eloquent or barrage them with statistics. Just (civilly) make your position clear, and make sure they know you’re a constituent who votes.

As you become more sophisticated in your activism, try to understand which issues fall under which jurisdiction (local, state, federal). In other words, don’t call your U.S. senator about town zoning or your local council member about international conflicts.

  • If you haven’t yet, add your elected officials to your contacts.
  • Reach out to one (or more) elected official about an issue that falls into their jurisdiction; ask them what their priorities are for their next legislative session; or just get to know them better.
  • Extra credit: Ask your (local) contact list to do the same.
  • Extra credit: Get to know not only your elected officials but also their staff.

When the check engine light comes on in your democracy vehicle, being loud and vocal with the people who represent you is a good place to start. Maybe they will be more afraid of losing to the democratic candidate than getting primaried by Elon.
That sounds awful. I would rather just bitch when my candidate loses.
 
The Trump election was an over correction, against leftist ideology. Most of that ideology Ian only espoused by a small percentage of Dems, but not shut down or debated against by the vast majority of Themis it was easy to paint them all as trans loving, Hamas loving, open border loving freaks. Now we have a narcissistic asshole

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You’re the person complaining from the start. You just another karen maga doing the complaining and closing your eye to what is happening. But you keep bitching about reality rather than facing it.
I’m not MAGA. I’m also not a liberal. I am tired of the constant bitching though, and yes I realize my thread is hypocritical. I’m done bitching BTW Biff. Now I’m just replying to idiots like you.
 
Ignoring this situation most certainly is worse. @Hawkman98 Is a law enforcement officer. Embarrassing

Comparisons to what happened in the 1930s are blown off to hyperbole but even historical enthusiasts can see the parallels.

Attacks on the press, courts, law profession, substitute immigration for the Jewish issue (targeted hatred), replacement of the government by autocratic control. It's a blueprint used in Eastern Europe to successfully seize control and now in the U.S.

"It can't happen here", or "it's ridiculous to contemplate the United States could be taken over internally" is becoming tenable.
 
Comparisons to what happened in the 1930s are blown off to hyperbole but even historical enthusiasts can see the parallels.

Attacks on the press, courts, law profession, substitute immigration for the Jewish issue (targeted hatred), replacement of the government by autocratic control. It's a blueprint used in Eastern Europe to successfully seize control and now in the U.S.

"It can't happen here", or "it's ridiculous to contemplate the United States could be taken over internally" is becoming tenable.
Thank you. This is inexcusable at this point to turn a blind eye let alone support it. Damning
 
I’m not MAGA. I’m also not a liberal. I am tired of the constant bitching though, and yes I realize my thread is hypocritical. I’m done bitching BTW Biff. Now I’m just replying to idiots like you.

Just a thought - if you don’t know who Pam Bondi and Alina Habba are, it kinda makes sense that you are wondering what some of us are complaining about.
 
Thank you. This is inexcusable at this point to turn a blind eye let alone support it. Damning
Just to be clear, I don’t support it at all, however losing my shit on an anonymous forum just isn’t going to accomplish anything. I still have some faith that it won’t end as badly as some on here speculate, but I’m a glass half full kinda guy.
 
You keep doubling down, that it’s not a vote against the progressive left, and you will keep losing

I'm not running for anything dumb@ss. It's just funny to see you of all people talk like you're not as all in on all of the issues you listed.

It's literally all you talk about, well besides the other bigotry stuff.
 
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I overheard a couple old dudes at Hy-Vee talking about Trump and how he just needs time to fix everything from the last administration’s fvck ups. Should I have said something to them? I thought about it but didn’t want to make scene. Next time it happens I’m going to say something. Change starts with me!
Yep…you should have tackled those “old dudes”. 😉
 
I'm not running for anything dumb@ss. It's just funny to see you of all people talk like you're not as all in on all of the issues you listed.

It's literally all you talk about, well besides the other bigotry stuff.
It’s literally me telling you all what to do to win. There is no middle class common sense party
 
I'm through bitching. I now just accept the fact that my retirement 401-k's are in the toilet, the new car I planned on buying will now cost $4k more, grocery prices are not coming down, and Putin's Russia will not be held accountable at all for invading Ukraine. Be optimistic, in just 45 months we'll finally get relief with a new "felon free" president.
 
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Oh yes, you should have loudly called them pieces of shit to their face. Throw in a fascist/Hitler/Putin-lover and you’ve truly then done the Lord’s work.
Staying silent is far more cowardly. But continue to normalize your shit stain savior and his conquest to dismantle our democracy.
 
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