Lost to a damn good team by 5 on their floor.

[jonesy5960]

There's a reason Iowa was a 2 1/2 point dog coming in. Ayo is gonna be an NBA star, We had no one that could stay with him in our starting five and their guards are all quick and athletic. Everyone knew that would be a challenge for Iowa's perimeter defense. I thought Perkins and JT did a pretty good job on him when they were both in there. I think Iowa can play a solid man to man next year with the added quickness getting more minutes. Cockburn will be a pro as well and he was pretty much dominated by Luka and Nunge. They have talent all over the floor. Would CJ have made a difference? I don't know reallly. Defensively we don't lose much if anything with Keegan, JT, and Perkins taking those minutes. Not a lot of quick doubles on Luka tonight. Nothing like what we saw against Indiana.

The difference between losing and winning again is probably JBO's 3's or lack of them. He only had 6 points on 2 of 5 shooting. At least people cant get pissed off at him for missing a bunch of shots.

 

[drh1150]

I think it should be noted that we have beaten only one B10 team with a winning conference record, Purdue.

 

[mooresville hawk]

I think it should be noted that we have beaten only one B10 team with a winning conference record, Purdue.

It should also be noted that Iowa is 4-2 against teams ranked in the Too 25 when the game was played. The B10 is going to have many teams around the 500 mark because they are all so close competitively.

The National Champion has had six or more losses in the last twenty years, four or more losses in seventeen of the last twenty years according to the NCAA’s website. The most important thing in basketball is to make the tournament and be playing your best basketball in March. This team is still in a good position for a top four seed in the tournament and can make a run. It is possible that they tank as well, but I do not believe that will happen.

 

[Hawksfinal4]

Only 5 other teams in B1G with a Winning record and 3 of them haven’t played Iowa yet . In other words Iowa is 1-1 against B1G teams with above a 500 record. So let’s give it some time before we decide who the cream of f the B1G is.

 

[BlackNGoldBleeder]

There's a reason Iowa was a 2 1/2 point dog coming in. Ayo is gonna be an NBA star, We had no one that could stay with him in our starting five and their guards are all quick and athletic. Everyone knew that would be a challenge for Iowa's perimeter defense. I thought Perkins and JT did a pretty good job on him when they were both in there. I think Iowa can play a solid man to man next year with the added quickness getting more minutes. Cockburn will be a pro as well and he was pretty much dominated by Luka and Nunge. They have talent all over the floor. Would CJ have made a difference? I don't know reallly. Defensively we don't lose much if anything with Keegan, JT, and Perkins taking those minutes. Not a lot of quick doubles on Luka tonight. Nothing like what we saw against Purdue.

The difference between losing and winning again is probably JBO's 3's or lack of them. He only had 6 points on 2 of 5 shooting. At least people cant get pissed off at him for missing a bunch of shots.

Illinois is more talented than Iowa. That's point one.

Second, it's all about matchups and assets vs. deficits. Ayo and Frazier combined for almost fifty points. JBo, Connor, and Weiskamp combined for thirty-six (6, 11, and 19 respectively). I will gladly toss out JBo and Connor's scoring output (17) for JT/Ulis and Perkins to score zero but hold Frazier and Ayo to something like 15 and 10. Had that happened, Iowa wins by two.

 

[KcTo]

There's a reason Iowa was a 2 1/2 point dog coming in. Ayo is gonna be an NBA star, We had no one that could stay with him in our starting five and their guards are all quick and athletic. Everyone knew that would be a challenge for Iowa's perimeter defense. I thought Perkins and JT did a pretty good job on him when they were both in there. I think Iowa can play a solid man to man next year with the added quickness getting more minutes. Cockburn will be a pro as well and he was pretty much dominated by Luka and Nunge. They have talent all over the floor. Would CJ have made a difference? I don't know reallly. Defensively we don't lose much if anything with Keegan, JT, and Perkins taking those minutes. Not a lot of quick doubles on Luka tonight. Nothing like what we saw against Purdue.

The difference between losing and winning again is probably JBO's 3's or lack of them. He only had 6 points on 2 of 5 shooting. At least people cant get pissed off at him for missing a bunch of shots.

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I think a,considerable difference is POY Garza coming in at +26 ppg and being limited to 19, only 6pts in the decisive 2h, or 7 below his average...

 

[Franisdaman]

There's a reason Iowa was a 2 1/2 point dog coming in. Ayo is gonna be an NBA star, We had no one that could stay with him in our starting five and their guards are all quick and athletic. Everyone knew that would be a challenge for Iowa's perimeter defense. I thought Perkins and JT did a pretty good job on him when they were both in there. I think Iowa can play a solid man to man next year with the added quickness getting more minutes. Cockburn will be a pro as well and he was pretty much dominated by Luka and Nunge. They have talent all over the floor. Would CJ have made a difference? I don't know reallly. Defensively we don't lose much if anything with Keegan, JT, and Perkins taking those minutes. Not a lot of quick doubles on Luka tonight. Nothing like what we saw against Purdue.

The difference between losing and winning again is probably JBO's 3's or lack of them. He only had 6 points on 2 of 5 shooting. At least people cant get pissed off at him for missing a bunch of shots.

The non call on the Illini travel that led to the prayer that was answered (a 3 point shot) right before the 1st half ended was a huge daggar.

When did goal tends become reviewable?? That was weird because it was either 2 points on the goal tend or 2 points when JoeW put it back in the hoop.

5 points in what I just typed.

And Luka getting one FT attempt? C;mon, man. That's some home cookin, right there.

We were right there, folks, against a very good team, on the road.

 

[SotaHawk87]

The non call on the Illini travel that led to the prayer that was answered (a 3 point shot) right before the 1st half ended was a huge daggar.

When did goal tends become reviewable?? That was weird because it was either 2 points on the goal tend or 2 points when JoeW put it back in the hoop.

5 points in what I just typed.

And Luke getting one FT attempt? C;mon, man. That's some home cookin, right there.

We were right there, folks, against a very good team, on the road.

Keegan also had a very clear and 1 in the second half that was called on the floor.

 

[Ronman]

I had put all my eggs into the "Win The Conference" basket. It has become the new Holy Grail for me since the Cubs actually won a WS. Now it appears that goal is all but unachievable. That doesn't mean that the season is over. There are still a lot of winnable games on our schedule and, who knows what might happen to other teams. Illinois has already lost two home games, one to a pretty mediocre team. Wisconsin has lost at home to the same team and were blasted on the road. There is still a lot for us to shoot for, but our schedule looks tough. We just need to keep plugging along and hope we catch fire come tournament time.

 

[KcTo]

Illinois is more talented than Iowa. That's point one.

Second, it's all about matchups and assets vs. deficits. Ayo and Frazier combined for almost fifty points. JBo, Connor, and Weiskamp combined for thirty-six (6, 11, and 19 respectively). I will gladly toss out JBo and Connor's scoring output (17) for JT/Ulis and Perkins to score zero but hold Frazier and Ayo to something like 15 and 15. Had that happened, Iowa wins by two.

More talented?
garza is putting elite #’s that are rarely seen outside of the Durant / Beasley dominate players of the last 20 years.
huge advantage Garza

who would you rather have? Garza or Ayo?

 

[littlez]

Luka didn’t get to the line much because we didn’t get him the ball in the post much. He was dominating Kofi in the 1st in the post but Bashilashvili (sp ) actually did a much better job on him.I know Luka sat out a ton in the 2nd half but we have to play through him more and be more patient getting him touches. In the last 2 minutes every possession should go through him. And they weren’t even doubling him. 2 key turnovers by Bohannon and Connor were just flat out bad in the last 2 minutes.

 

[BlackNGoldBleeder]

More talented?
garza is putting elite #’s that are rarely seen outside of the Durant / Beasley dominate players of the last 20 years.
huge advantage Garza

who would you rather have? Garza or Ayo?

Garza.

From top to bottom, Illinois has more talent.

 

[KcTo]

KcTo said:
More talented?
garza is putting elite #’s that are rarely seen outside of the Durant / Beasley dominate players of the last 20 years.
huge advantage Garza

who would you rather have? Garza or Ayo

Garza.

From top to bottom, Illinois has more talent.

Who would you rather have?
garza-Wieskamp Ayo-Kofi?

all that said, going into the game NET had Iowa #4 and Illinois #7, so in summary I’d posit they are pretty evenly matched talent wise ,

and if as you assert, that illionis has more talent, then Fran has done an exceptional job of coaching a team with inferior talent to a superior rating

 

[BlackNGoldBleeder]

KcTo said:
More talented?
garza is putting elite #’s that are rarely seen outside of the Durant / Beasley dominate players of the last 20 years.
huge advantage Garza

who would you rather have? Garza or Ayo


Who would you rather have?
garza-Wieskamp Ayo-Kofi?

all that said, going into the game NET had Iowa #4 and Illinois #7, so in summary I’d posit they are pretty evenly matched talent wise ,

and if as you assert, that illionis has more talent, then Fran has done an exceptional job of coaching a team with inferior talent to a superior rating

More talent doesn't necessarily mean better team.

Yes, Fran has done an extraordinary job of getting the most out of the talent he has. And this is without question his most talented team.

 

[HawkRugged17]

I think it should be noted that we have beaten only one B10 team with a winning conference record, Purdue.

Don't look now, but Rutgers is 6-6. Home vs Minnesota next.

 

[soybean]

All I would add is that Illinois can't play much better than they did, Iowa can.

 

[Ronman]

Kofi is a physical specimen and can be a handful against weaker players, but Garza is by far the more talented basketball player and was more than a match for him, even considering the benefits of having officials that routinely allow opposing players to disregard all rules about physical contact.

Ayo is simply the best guard in the conference. There are a lot of good ones, but none better.