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*****MAGA in disarray, who will be speaker of the House***** McCarthy REMOVED! Jim Jordan 0-3. Election denier Mike Johnson confirmed. Vote them out

I don’t think he’s a troll. Just a bit of a simpleton when it comes to understanding politics.
Oh no...he's trolling. Nobody sticks with an idiotic narrative for this long - even interjecting it when it's no longer relevant - without being a troll. He's a troll. And he's not good at it.

And now he's reveling in it.
 
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I just do not understand how they blame the Democrats for their own absolute f'n dysfunction. (I understand perfectly WHY they're doing it). The Dems can not fix what's wrong with the Republican party.
Yep. The dems are to not vote for their dem candidate in favor of voting for persons who will not negotiate and haven't asked for help or offered anything to vote for.

Did I get that right GIAHORT repubs?
 
I just do not understand how they blame the Democrats for their own absolute f'n dysfunction. (I understand perfectly WHY they're doing it). The Dems can not fix what's wrong with the Republican party.
That's why they are throwing a fit. They expect the Dems to fix everything wrong with the country and then take credit for it. They want them to do the same thing for their party.
 
Yep. The dems are to not vote for their dem candidate in favor of voting for persons who will not negotiate and haven't asked for help or offered anything to vote for.

Did I get that right GIAHORT repubs?
How are the Dems supposed to stop this? How does them electing the GOP conductor who's going to do this anyway, fix anything?

train trainwreck GIF
 
What an a$$hole. If there wasn't two wars ongoing, Jordan wouldn't get a sniff at the speakership. Being the little weasel Jordan is, of course he's pressuring his collegues and abusing the situation abroad to try to sneak into the position. Damn, I hate that dude. I can't think of a worse person for Speaker outside MTG, Boobet and Gaetz. They are almost equally bad.
 
Has nothing to do with 208 D's voting with the Gaetz crew to remove McCarthy.

The current speaker votes are all on the R's and their dysfunction. Probably goes on for a while...great. :rolleyes:
Again. Why would Democrats support a speaker who refused to work with them? Who initiated an absolutely unfounded impeachment inquiry that isn’t supported by any evidence? Who supports a man for president who tried to overturn the election of President Biden? Why should Democrats support that man? He is literally the antithesis of what their party stands for.

If the Republicans want Democratic support they should have nominated someone who the Democrats can support.
 
Again. Why would Democrats support a speaker who refused to work with them? Who initiated an absolutely unfounded impeachment inquiry that isn’t supported by any evidence? Who supports a man for president who tried to overturn the election of President Biden? Why should Democrats support that man? He is literally the antithesis of what their party stands for.

If the Republicans want Democratic support they should have nominated someone who the Democrats can support.
They didn't have to vote for him. Just not vote...would only take a dozen to not be in the current situation.

I realize that letting the R's shoot themselves in the face and put their dysfunction on display made that possibility pretty remote.

As far as working with D's...

The president, who is running for re-election, noted other bipartisan bills he has signed and offered praise to McCarthy, the speaker of the House of Representatives, who was his primary negotiating partner.

Don't think Joe will have occasion to say the same thing if the speaker ends up being Jim Jordan.
 
They didn't have to vote for him. Just not vote...would only take a dozen to not be in the current situation.

I realize that letting the R's shoot themselves in the face and put their dysfunction on display made that possibility pretty remote.

As far as working with D's...

The president, who is running for re-election, noted other bipartisan bills he has signed and offered praise to McCarthy, the speaker of the House of Representatives, who was his primary negotiating partner.

Don't think Joe will have occasion to say the same thing if the speaker ends up being Jim Jordan.
So you want to give credit to McCarthy for doing what pretty much every other Speaker in history has done???
 
They didn't have to vote for him. Just not vote...would only take a dozen to not be in the current situation.

I realize that letting the R's shoot themselves in the face and put their dysfunction on display made that possibility pretty remote.

As far as working with D's...

The president, who is running for re-election, noted other bipartisan bills he has signed and offered praise to McCarthy, the speaker of the House of Representatives, who was his primary negotiating partner.

Don't think Joe will have occasion to say the same thing if the speaker ends up being Jim Jordan.
Not voting is the voting for him equivalent. Republicans in the House have done the absolute minimum necessary to keep a functioning government. The only other things they have done is to investigate Biden and democrats. They have no ideas. They have no thoughts for improving the country. When Democrats took over the house in 2019, they investigated trump, but they also passed bills that, at least in their minds, bettered America.

The 2022 version of the House is incapable of governing.
 
So you want to give credit to McCarthy for doing what pretty much every other Speaker in history has done???
No...just realize Jim Jordan is less likely to do that.

I don't think Jordan would be willing to go with a "clean" CR to keep the government running either.

We'll see how this whole fiasco shakes out though...
 
Not voting is the voting for him equivalent. Republicans in the House have done the absolute minimum necessary to keep a functioning government. The only other things they have done is to investigate Biden and democrats. They have no ideas. They have no thoughts for improving the country. When Democrats took over the house in 2019, they investigated trump, but they also passed bills that, at least in their minds, bettered America.

The 2022 version of the House is incapable of governing.
True.

I'd rather have McCarthy in the seat at this moment than have the current shit show we have going on now.

Other than letting the R's shoot themselves in the face I'm not seeing the benefit from tossing McCarthy. Call me crazy.
 
True.

I'd rather have McCarthy in the seat at this moment than have the current shit show we have going on now.

Other than letting the R's shoot themselves in the face I'm not seeing the benefit from tossing McCarthy. Call me crazy.
Perhaps, just perhaps, Democrats want a more moderate speaker and are hoping to force the hands of Republicans.
 
Not voting is the voting for him equivalent. Republicans in the House have done the absolute minimum necessary to keep a functioning government. The only other things they have done is to investigate Biden and democrats. They have no ideas. They have no thoughts for improving the country. When Democrats took over the house in 2019, they investigated trump, but they also passed bills that, at least in their minds, bettered America.

The 2022 version of the House is incapable of governing.
And their investigation of Trump was predicated on factual information. He DID try to force a foreign leader to help his reelection campaign by withholding vital military aid. That the GOP is too chickenshit to take that seriously is exactly why they are where they are today. They have had every opportunity to cut out the cancer that's eating them alive and they have refused to do so. Fvck them.
 
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