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*****MAGA in disarray, who will be speaker of the House***** McCarthy REMOVED! Jim Jordan 0-3. Election denier Mike Johnson confirmed. Vote them out

I hereby nominate from the great state of Georgia

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Why is the two party system considered so sacrosanct?

Forgetting MAGA for a second, both are compromised by various special interests. Citizen's United is still there.

If we want real reform, Citizen's United must go. Hiding behind the 1st amendment to buy politicians must stop. Wealthy Speech is not "More Free" than any other speech.
 
Find anyone who’s ever defended gerrymandering, we’re all aware that both parties do it. You’d be hard-pressed to find two states that are done worse than North Carolina and Wisconsin, in which despite effectively being nearly tossups in statewide elections, in the state legislatures the GOP has veto proof majorities. That shouldn’t be possible.
NC could end up with a House contingent that goes from 7-7 to 11-3 thanks to the GOP's extreme gerrymander.
 
George Santos...come on down!

Unfortunately, I'm only half kidding.

Whomever gets nominated should definitely seek that invaluable Trump endorsement!!!
Worked so well for Gymbo.
 
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They have held it together better than the R's, I will say that, but they have divisions as well. When they get majority again, those divisions will come out more.

Heck, look at the Israel-Palestinian issue.

Disagree. There are ideological differences within the Dem's caucus but they're adult enough to know strength in unity is worth tolerating disagreements. The young idealistic members are vocal but willing to operate within caucus guidelines. Pelosi was demanding and Jeffries hopefully a good student.

This Republican debacle is a teaching lesson to future (and current) congressmembers.
 
The 2 party system is not in shambles. The morons from the Maga party that they let infiltrate their party have left it in absolute shambles. They’re not serious people. They’ve accomplished nothing the entire time they’ve been there. The Gym Jordan’s, MTG, Gaetz, etc. they are freaking posers. This had to happen at some point where the Maga part of the party was going to leave them in shambles. They’ve done it to themselves. Dems are currently in great shape. Just sit back and watch these losers fight amongst themselves.
Nah, what’s happening now is a symptom of the disease that is the two party system. John Adams was right.


“There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties, each arranged under its leader, and concerting measures in opposition to each other. This, in my humble apprehension, is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution.”
 
Disagree. There are ideological differences within the Dem's caucus but they're adult enough to know strength in unity is worth tolerating disagreements. The young idealistic members are vocal but willing to operate within caucus guidelines. Pelosi was demanding and Jeffries hopefully a good student.

This Republican debacle is a teaching lesson to future (and current) congressmembers.
This is the first time the Caucus that didn't have a clue how government works. Actually have enough power to accomplish something. Yet, they can't because it's a zero sum game to them. Congress was designed to force compromise It's amazing how they have built an entire alternate reality that it isn't
 
When are the Rs going to get honest? Their party is completely non functioning. They can't do the most basic of governance. Yet this yahoo wants to blab on about fiscal responsibility and making people's lives easier? It's like listening to a drunk go on about how important it is to dress for success while his pants are loaded with liquid shit.
 
This is the first time the Caucus that didn't have a clue how government works. Actually have enough power to accomplish something. Yet, they can't because it's a zero sum game to them. Congress was designed to force compromise It's amazing how they have built an entire alternate reality that it isn't

Republicans challenged leadership before and skated. The Tea Party/Freedom Caucus came to town to create dysfunction, which was why Cole's nomination of Jordan was so absurd and should disqualify Cole for consideration for any leadership position.

It can't be overstated that before this crap the Republican House accomplished nothing. Count the times "border" and "immigration" and Democratic neglect was inferred or insinuated and consider what legislative effort was attempted by this Republican majority towards this critical problem. Or anything else.

It is an insult on mature adult minds to claim the Orange Turd won the 2020 election.

As of 9:23 PM. 10/20/2023, Friday, the evening following Jordan's announcement he will mercifully halt his pursuit, 9 of the 11 declared candidates for the Speaker position are election deniers.

This is the "leadership quality" the Republican party is proposing.
 
The 2 party system is not in shambles. The morons from the Maga party that they let infiltrate their party have left it in absolute shambles. They’re not serious people. They’ve accomplished nothing the entire time they’ve been there. The Gym Jordan’s, MTG, Gaetz, etc. they are freaking posers. This had to happen at some point where the Maga part of the party was going to leave them in shambles. They’ve done it to themselves. Dems are currently in great shape. Just sit back and watch these losers fight amongst themselves.
Two former GOP reps I saw today (Dent and Jolly) said - paraphrasing - the revolt of the Republican moderates is welcomed and long overdue; that the extremists and Trump loyalists deserve all the blame for the current dysfunction. They would be OK with a breakaway moderate faction working with Dems if the House wreckers block a moderate nominee. It’s open civil war now.
 
Two former GOP reps I saw today (Dent and Jolly) said - paraphrasing - the revolt of the Republican moderates is welcomed and long overdue; that the extremists and Trump loyalists deserve all the blame for the current dysfunction. They would be OK with a breakaway moderate faction working with Dems if the House wreckers block a moderate nominee. It’s open civil war now.
The GOP would be in much better shape had this happened years ago.
 
The GOP would be in much better shape had this happened years ago.

This is why it was nuts to blame to the Democrats for the dysfunction. It was and is a Republican problem. The problem ultimately rests with the Republican voters. How can the Party correct itself until it stops sending extremists? And not just the 8 people associate. Virial anti-abortionists, fiscal conservatives, moralists and social extremists. It takes Representatives willing to compromise.

Intractable positions play with ultra-conservative constituencies but in the real world the majority don't, or many may not share these positions. Interviews with some Republican Representatives are worthy of comedy routines, pronouncing ridiculous static positions.
 
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