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Magayna to NDSU

This will be perfect for him, being able to pursue a trade while wrestling D1. I didn’t know this was possible. I’d heard he may not wrestle because he didn’t really want to go to college. Now he has the best of both worlds, and a high paying trade when he’s done. I’m sure friends and family would have loved to go watch him at UNI, but this program sounds custom made for him
 
This will be perfect for him, being able to pursue a trade while wrestling D1. I didn’t know this was possible. I’d heard he may not wrestle because he didn’t really want to go to college. Now he has the best of both worlds, and a high paying trade when he’s done. I’m sure friends and family would have loved to go watch him at UNI, but this program sounds custom made for him
What trade program is he going into at NDSU? I would assume he has to be taking classes towards getting an undergrad degree.
 
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He’s impressive, beat the 2A champ from Osage 8-1 last year. Looks like he’s transferred to Waterloo East for next year. I don’t see anyone in 3A beating him either.
 
I've never heard of something like this before. How do you compete for 4-5 years while getting a 2 year degree?
 
You can't. It has to be an Electrical Engineering degree which NDSU offers.
So, he is going to be an Electrical Engineer? I had heard it was an electrician, no engineer, but I can't say it was from a source that would know for sure.
 
So, he is going to be an Electrical Engineer? I had heard it was an electrician, no engineer, but I can't say it was from a source that would know for sure.
Maybe they have some type of trade program. I just don't know how it would relate to being qualified to wrestle at the NCAA level.
 
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I’m a graduate of NDSU and I honestly don’t know how this works. NDSU does have a program in conjunction with a local trade school where you can gain admission to NDSU but take classes through the trade school. This is primarily for students who can’t be admitted to NDSU because of poor grades though, and is temporary until your academic record is in good standing.
 
I’m a graduate of NDSU and I honestly don’t know how this works. NDSU does have a program in conjunction with a local trade school where you can gain admission to NDSU but take classes through the trade school. This is primarily for students who can’t be admitted to NDSU because of poor grades though, and is temporary until your academic record is in good standing.
This is a smart move by the university. Many of these athletes aren’t cut out for traditional college, so they pass them along with some useless degree which qualifies them for nothing. At least a trade sets them up to make a good living doing something needed, practical, and more in their wheelhouse academically. You may only need 2 years in classroom, but I believe the apprenticeship is 5 years, which can still be considered being in school.
 
This is a smart move by the university. Many of these athletes aren’t cut out for traditional college, so they pass them along with some useless degree which qualifies them for nothing. At least a trade sets them up to make a good living doing something needed, practical, and more in their wheelhouse academically. You may only need 2 years in classroom, but I believe the apprenticeship is 5 years, which can still be considered being in school.
Do you know that he is in a trade program for a fact? This doesn't pass the smell test.
 
This is a smart move by the university. Many of these athletes aren’t cut out for traditional college, so they pass them along with some useless degree which qualifies them for nothing. At least a trade sets them up to make a good living doing something needed, practical, and more in their wheelhouse academically. You may only need 2 years in classroom, but I believe the apprenticeship is 5 years, which can still be considered being in school.
Double down on this. I told off U officials several years ago that they needed to do this. The value of an undergrad college degree is diminished. Too many graduate and are only qualified to be barista's.

Buying a trade school would re-balance the gender equation (men today are 40%) and offer an exit to a 6 figure job. If NDSU is doing this, they are way way ahead of the curve
 
Double down on this. I told off U officials several years ago that they needed to do this. The value of an undergrad college degree is diminished. Too many graduate and are only qualified to be barista's.

Buying a trade school would re-balance the gender equation (men today are 40%) and offer an exit to a 6 figure job. If NDSU is doing this, they are way way ahead of the curve

Agreed. Reminds me of nursing. Two year RN degrees seemed to be very hands on vs BSNs who learned a lot more administrative skills and program management. The two year grads seemed ready to hit the ground running. If they could teach the practical (welding etc) while also teaching how to run a business, it would be very valuable. My nephew would leap at something like that at Iowa as he is a fairly skilled hands on guy.
 
I have a friend who became an electrician 20 years ago. It took him 4 years to become a Union Electrician through study and apprenticeship. Although I believe this was offered through the union.
Spitballing here, what if you earned a two year electrician degree and then wanted another trade which took 2 years?
 
I have a friend who became an electrician 20 years ago. It took him 4 years to become a Union Electrician through study and apprenticeship. Although I believe this was offered through the union.
Spitballing here, what if you earned a two year electrician degree and then wanted another trade which took 2 years?
Not sure I understand. You mean he/she turns 90 degrees and then wants to then be a plumber?

Added comment of subject. This country is in desperate need of people to build and fix "stuff". Society and the education system have pissed on the trades for years. That needs to change yesterday. And, what goes around comes around. Institutions of "higher learning" have been marginalized due to this attitude as evidenced in decreased enrollment, most particularly by males. Recent articles have noted women are too seeing diminished value to a college degree.

I hope they change, but would bet heavily against it....academia being academia
 
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Added comment of subject. This country is in desperate need of people to build and fix "stuff". Society and the education system have pissed on the trades for years. That needs to change yesterday. And, what goes around comes around. Institutions of "higher learning" have been marginalized due to this attitude as evidenced in decreased enrollment, most particularly by males. Recent articles have noted women are too seeing diminished value to a college degree.

I hope they change, but would bet heavily against it....academia being academia
Could not agree more, particularly the bolded part. ^^ I employ people in the trades and I am telling you...pickings are SLIM these days. Now then, if you want a young person to look at their phone 90% of the time...there is a great selection of talent available. ;)

But "get dirty" and do work...I weep for our future and selfishly, I am glad that I will be retiring/selling out in the next few years.
 
Not sure I understand. You mean he/she turns 90 degrees and then wants to then be a plumber?

Added comment of subject. This country is in desperate need of people to build and fix "stuff". Society and the education system have pissed on the trades for years. That needs to change yesterday. And, what goes around comes around. Institutions of "higher learning" have been marginalized due to this attitude as evidenced in decreased enrollment, most particularly by males. Recent articles have noted women are too seeing diminished value to a college degree.

I hope they change, but would bet heavily against it....academia being academia
I feel like a 2 year basic business degree maybe even catering to running a small business and a two year trade degree packaged together would probably be a pretty good combo. I feel like a lot of guys that try to go out on their own in the trades fail because they don't understand the business side of it.
 
Not sure I understand. You mean he/she turns 90 degrees and then wants to then be a plumber?

Added comment of subject. This country is in desperate need of people to build and fix "stuff". Society and the education system have pissed on the trades for years. That needs to change yesterday. And, what goes around comes around. Institutions of "higher learning" have been marginalized due to this attitude as evidenced in decreased enrollment, most particularly by males. Recent articles have noted women are too seeing diminished value to a college degree.

I hope they change, but would bet heavily against it....academia being academia
I remember being in my 20’s thinking I am stuck being in construction as the college thing didn’t work for me(I went for 2 years) after reevaluation on my end I realized if I embraced the suck I could do well for myself. So glad I embraced the suck to get to where I am at now. So many people In the world have no idea how to build or fix things. As long as my body stays up and continue the reputation that I have with work I can work as long as I want. You can make great money in the trades. I’m typing this while we are on our annual trip to Kapalua. It’s all about embracing the suck to get to where you want to be. The definition of being a dedicated wrestler 👊🏾
 
He did third grade twice so who knows. Anything's possible!
This is relevant how? How many kids are graduating from high school at 19, I could name a few that are frequently talked about on this platform. You know he did 3rd grade twice, good for you, but likely don’t know the circumstances. I can guarantee it’s not the narrative you’d likely push.

For more info on the course he’s taking, you can refer to this link:

 
This is relevant how? How many kids are graduating from high school at 19, I could name a few that are frequently talked about on this platform. You know he did 3rd grade twice, good for you, but likely don’t know the circumstances. I can guarantee it’s not the narrative you’d likely push.

For more info on the course he’s taking, you can refer to this link:

His shtick is being a jerk. He does it on every board. Take a quick look at his posting history.
 
Not sure I understand. You mean he/she turns 90 degrees and then wants to then be a plumber?

Added comment of subject. This country is in desperate need of people to build and fix "stuff". Society and the education system have pissed on the trades for years. That needs to change yesterday. And, what goes around comes around. Institutions of "higher learning" have been marginalized due to this attitude as evidenced in decreased enrollment, most particularly by males. Recent articles have noted women are too seeing diminished value to a college degree.

I hope they change, but would bet heavily against it....academia being academia

I feel like a 2 year basic business degree maybe even catering to running a small business and a two year trade degree packaged together would probably be a pretty good combo. I feel like a lot of guys that try to go out on their own in the trades fail because they don't understand the business side of it.
Those were my thoughts. I wonder if the two year electrician program at NDSU comes with apprenticeship?
 
I feel like a 2 year basic business degree maybe even catering to running a small business and a two year trade degree packaged together would probably be a pretty good combo. I feel like a lot of guys that try to go out on their own in the trades fail because they don't understand the business side of it.
This is really an excellent point. I've seen this over and over again, guys who are really good at the trades, just don't have the biz/admin skills to go off on their own.

This is true for other professions too. I met the Art Dept chair of Panhandle State (Yes, it exists) years ago. He had a course for artists running their own biz as mandatory. They too participated in running a shop in beautiful Guymon OK. He indicated many of his students just didn't have the left brain skills to make it, so he put the class and shop as part of their degree
 
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