March 13: IOWA ends up #34 in the NET Rankings with 8 Quad 1 Wins, 5 Quad 2 Wins. 2 Quad 3 LOSSES

[Franisdaman]

safe to say we will be at 8 or more Quad 1 wins tomorrow morning

bottom line: Quad 1 wins + Quad 2 wins will = 12

I am guessing a #25 NET ranking tomorrow.

 

[HawkLand]

Our NET ranking today should spark some interesting conversation.


NET rankings -

 

[Franisdaman]

Our NET ranking today should spark some interesting conversation.


NET rankings -

Big opportunity for a another big NET resume win tonight.

Beat Ohio State? No impact!!

Rank..Previous..Road..Neutral..Home..Non Div 1
8 7 Maryland Big Ten 22-4 4-4 3-0 15-0 0-0
13 15 Michigan St. Big Ten 18-9 5-4 3-2 10-3 0-0
21 17 Ohio St. Big Ten 17-9 3-6 1-1 13-2 0-0
24 25 Michigan Big Ten 17-9 3-5 4-0 10-4 0-0
25 24 Penn St. Big Ten 20-6 5-3 2-1 13-2 0-0
27 27 Iowa Big Ten 19-8 4-5 2-2 13-1 0-0
29 29 Wisconsin Big Ten 16-10 4-6 0-3 12-1 0-0
32 32 Purdue Big Ten 14-13 3-8 1-2 10-3 0-0
33 34 Illinois Big Ten 16-9 5-5 0-1 11-3 1-0
35 33 Rutgers Big Ten 17-9 1-6 0-2 16-1 1-0
54 53 Minnesota Big Ten 12-13 1-8 1-1 10-4 0-0
59 59 Indiana Big Ten 17-9 2-6 2-0 13-3 0-0
160 160 Northwestern Big Ten 6-19 1-9 1-1 4-9 0-0
183 175 Nebraska Big Ten 7-19 0-9 2-1 5-9 0-0

 

[luvmyhawks]

Net ranking is dumb.

 

[HawkLand]

Ohio State drops 4 spots losing at Iowa. Oregon drops 0 spots losing at #47.

 

[DodgerHawki]

Ohio State drops 4 spots losing at Iowa. Oregon drops 0 spots losing at #47.

Part of it is that there are enough games played now that one individual performance is hard to move the needle a great deal. The NET is better than RPI, but still flawed as the adjusted win percentage has the dumb factor of weighting home wins at 0.6 of a win and a road win counting as 1.4 wins, regardless of opponent. It's good that efficiency margin is one factor of the NET, but there is also the Team Value Index, which is some sort of algorithm (not shared) that is based on Opponent, Location and Winner. Sounds strangely like the old RPI to me.

 

[TheTruthTheWholeTruth]

Our defensive efficiency went down some last night which negated the positive aspect of the Q1 win. Plus, we have no idea how big the gap is between 27 and 26 or 27 and 25. Regardless, another good win for the resume.

 

[Franisdaman]

Part of it is that there are enough games played now that one individual performance is hard to move the needle a great deal. The NET is better than RPI, but still flawed as the adjusted win percentage has the dumb factor of weighting home wins at 0.6 of a win and a road win counting as 1.4 wins, regardless of opponent. It's good that efficiency margin is one factor of the NET, but there is also the Team Value Index, which is some sort of algorithm (not shared) that is based on Opponent, Location and Winner. Sounds strangely like the old RPI to me.

but the old RPI did not take into account where the game was played, correct?

 

[L. Wade Childress]

but the old RPI did not take into account where the game was played, correct?

yes

 

[L. Wade Childress]

Part of it is that there are enough games played now that one individual performance is hard to move the needle a great deal. The NET is better than RPI, but still flawed as the adjusted win percentage has the dumb factor of weighting home wins at 0.6 of a win and a road win counting as 1.4 wins, regardless of opponent. It's good that efficiency margin is one factor of the NET, but there is also the Team Value Index, which is some sort of algorithm (not shared) that is based on Opponent, Location and Winner. Sounds strangely like the old RPI to me.

it doesn’t make sense to me why location is weighted the same as the RPI, but then we factor in location again when determining which quite a game falls into. Impossible to say without knowing how each factor is weighted, but it seems like they should just pick one or the other.

 

[HawkLand]

That can explain Iowa’s ranking not changing. Seems odd that OSU can play a higher ranked team than Oregon, both on the road, and both lose. The team playing the tougher opponent drops from 17-21, while Oregon stays at 19.

 

[Franisdaman]

I think a couple things are holding Iowa down a bit:

* We had 6 Quad Four opponents (all wins).

* We lost to Nebraska.

 

[HeRKeYHoPeFuL]

I think a couple things are holding Iowa down a bit:

* We had 6 Quad Four opponents (all wins).

* We lost to Nebraska.

Yeah, the NET clearly uses a similar-to-rpi metric to calculate SOS, as the predictive metrics show that we have played a VERY difficult schedule, while just looking at opponent record and opponents' opponent's record is much less flattering (playing Syracuse, Iowa State, and Cincy in down years will do that).

 

[Half-Full Hawk]

Expected to see a slight jump up today, but that slick formula keeps us the same after beating the #17 team in the slick formula. All aforementioned reasons may be valid, but provided we keep winning more than we lose, I think the NCAA committee will see past this formula that has the Hawks behind teams that we are outperforming in conference. Long story short, top 4 in conference = 5 seed

 

[Franisdaman]

NOTE: Rankings of opponents listed below are from Feb 21, 2020. However, a Quad 1, Quad 2, etc. win today might not be a Quad 1, Quad 2, etc. win TOMORROW or in mid March (there has been fluidity from one day to the next). Time will tell.

SORTING OF #27 (NET Rank) IOWA'S RESULTS (19-8) INTO THE 4 QUADS:


Quad 1 (8-6): Home vs a 1-30 team, Neutral site vs 1-50, Away vs 1-75.

WIN #20 Texas Tech (N)
WIN #69 Iowa State (A)
WIN #8 Maryland (H)
WIN #66 Syracuse (A)
WIN #54 Minnesota (A)
WIN #24 Michigan (H)
WIN #29 Wisconsin (H)
WIN #21 Ohio State (H)

LOSS #1 San Diego State (N)
LOSS #24 Michigan (A)
LOSS #25 Penn State (N)
LOSS #8 Maryland (A)
LOSS #32 Purdue (A)
LOSS #59 Indiana (A)

Quad 2 (4-1): Home vs a 31-75, Neutral site vs 51-100, Away vs 76-135.

WIN #54 Minnesota (H)
WIN #33 Illinois (H)
WIN #56 Cincinnati (N)
WIN #35 Rutgers (H)

LOSS #74 DePaul (H)

Quad 3 (1-1): Home vs a 76-160, Neutral site vs 101-200, Away vs 135-240.

WIN #160 Northwestern (A)

LOSS #183 Nebraska (A)

Quad 4 (6-0): Home vs a 161-353, Neutral vs 201-353, Away vs 241-353

WIN #339 SIU-Edwardsville (H)
WIN #164 North Florida (H)
WIN #318 Cal Poly (H)
WIN #352 Kennesaw State (H)
WIN #183 Nebraska (H)
WIN #161 Oral Roberts (H)

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4 games left on the 2019-2020 reg season schedule:

Quad 1 (3 games): Home vs a 1-30 team, Neutral site vs 1-50, Away vs 1-75

#13 Mich State (A)
#33 Illinois (A)

#25 Penn State (H)

Quad 2 (1 game): Home vs a 31-75, Neutral site vs 51-100, Away vs 76-135.

#32 Purdue (H)

Quad 3 (0 games): Home vs a 76-160, Neutral site vs 101-200, Away vs 135-240.

Quad 4 (0 games): Home vs a 161-353, Neutral vs 201-353, Away vs 241-353

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2019-2020 NET Rankings for Iowa (notice the fluidity):

#27 Feb 20-21
#29 Feb 19
#28 Feb 17-18
#30 Feb 14-16
#26 Feb 12-13
#28 Feb 9-11
#30 Feb 6-8
#22 Feb 5
#21 Feb 3-4
#24 Feb 2
#21 Jan 31, Feb 1
#20 Jan 29-30
#21 Jan 28
#22 Jan 27
#23 Jan 26
#21 Jan 24-25
#22 Jan 23
#27 Jan 21-22
#26 Jan 19-20
#28 Jan 18
#29 Jan 17
#30 Jan 16
#31 Jan 13-15
#32 Jan 12
#33 Jan 11
#43 Jan 9-10
#47 Jan 8 (after losing at Neb)
#33 Jan 6-7
#32 Jan 5
#30 Jan 4
#26 Jan 3
#23 Jan 2
#26 Dec 31, Jan 1
#24 on Dec 30
#25 Dec 29
#26 Dec 23-Dec 28
#27 Dec 22
#28 Dec 21
#33 Dec 16 (initial rankings)

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ALL B1G TEAMS' (Feb 21, 2020) NET RANKINGS:

Rank..Previous..Road..Neutral..Home..Non Div 1
8 7 Maryland Big Ten 22-4 4-4 3-0 15-0 0-0
13 15 Michigan St. Big Ten 18-9 5-4 3-2 10-3 0-0
21 17 Ohio St. Big Ten 17-9 3-6 1-1 13-2 0-0
24 25 Michigan Big Ten 17-9 3-5 4-0 10-4 0-0
25 24 Penn St. Big Ten 20-6 5-3 2-1 13-2 0-0
27 27 Iowa Big Ten 19-8 4-5 2-2 13-1 0-0
29 29 Wisconsin Big Ten 16-10 4-6 0-3 12-1 0-0
32 32 Purdue Big Ten 14-13 3-8 1-2 10-3 0-0
33 34 Illinois Big Ten 16-9 5-5 0-1 11-3 1-0
35 33 Rutgers Big Ten 17-9 1-6 0-2 16-1 1-0
54 53 Minnesota Big Ten 12-13 1-8 1-1 10-4 0-0
59 59 Indiana Big Ten 17-9 2-6 2-0 13-3 0-0
160 160 Northwestern Big Ten 6-19 1-9 1-1 4-9 0-0
183 175 Nebraska Big Ten 7-19 0-9 2-1 5-9 0-0

 

[HeRKeYHoPeFuL]

Ok, I'm looking at current NET, remaining schedules, etc. and I've got a few predictions:

Both Oral Roberts and North Florida will end up Q3 wins on Selection Sunday (leaving only 4 Q4 wins)

Iowa will end up with 3 Q1A wins (currently own them against Maryland and Texas Tech - both @ Michigan St. and @ Illinois would qualify, or Ohio St. or Michigan could move up to top 15)

Iowa does not earn a double bye in the BTT.

Iowa does make the BTT semi-finals.

Bonus: Iowa will be slotted into the Omaha pods, the Midwest regional or both.

 

[Franisdaman]

As you can see in the link that follows (sort by Q1_W):

Only 3 teams on Feb 21 have more Quad 1 wins than Iowa (has 8).

Baylor has 10, Kansas has 10, Seton Hall has 9.

LINK: https://bracketresearch.com/team-quadrant-wins-and-losses-tracker/

 

[Franisdaman]

As stated above, there has been fluidity from ONE DAY to the NEXT in both the NET rankings & in the number of Quad 1, 2, 3 and 4 wins.

Fluidity is the key word here.

For example:

On Feb 17, we were at 7 quad 1 wins, 4 quad 2 wins, or 11 total.

On Feb 19, we were at 9 quad 1 wins, 2 quad 2 wins, or 11 total.

On Feb 20, we were at 7 quad 1 wins, 4 quad 2 wins, or 11 total.

On Feb 21, we were at 8 quad 1 wins, 4 quad 2 wins, or 12 total.

 

[Franisdaman]

We already have double (8 vs 4) the Quad 1 wins compared to last season.


HERE WAS THE SORTING OF LAST YEAR'S #43 (NET Rank) IOWA'S RESULTS (22-11) INTO THE 4 QUADS:


Quadrant 1 (4-10): Home vs a 1-30 team, Neutral site vs 1-50, Away vs 1-75.

WINS
# 24 on Jan 16 (H) Iowa State
#60 on Feb 23; #84 on Jan 17 (A) Penn State
#2 on Jan 17 Michigan (H)
#54 on Feb 23; #30 on Jan 17 Indiana (A)

LOSSES
# 20 on Jan 16 (H) Wisconsin
#7 on Jan 16 (A) Michigan State
#17 on Jan 16 (A) Purdue
#6 on Jan 17 Michigan State (H)
#63 on Jan 17 Minnesota (A)
#21 on Jan 17 Maryland (H)
#36 on Jan 17 Ohio State (A)
#22 on Jan 17 Wisconsin (A)
#46 on Feb 23; #11 on Jan 17 Nebraska (A)
#9 on March 16 Michigan (B1G Tourney, Neutral site)

Quadrant 2 (7-0): Home vs a 31-75, Neutral site vs 51-100, Away vs 76-135.

WINS
#77 on Jan 16 (N) Oregon
#88 on Jan 16 (N) UConn
#85 on Feb 23; # 58 on Jan 16 (A) Northwestern
# 36 on Jan 16 (H) Ohio State
#46 on Feb 23; # 10 on Jan 16 (H) Nebraska
#109 on Feb 23; #136 on Jan 17 Rutgers (A)
#54 on Feb 23; #30 on Jan 17 Indiana (H)


Quadrant 3 (5-1): Home vs a 76-160, Neutral site vs 101-200, Away vs 135-240.

WINS
#112 on Feb 23; #53 on Jan 16 (H) Pittsburgh
#169 on Feb 23; #217 on Jan 16 (N) UNI
#99 on Jan 17 Illinois (H)
#85 on Feb 23; #59 on Jan 17 Northwestern (H)
#109 on March 15 Illinois (B1G Tourney, Neutral site)

LOSSES
#94 on March 3; #109 on Feb 23; #136 on Jan 17 Rutgers (H)


Quadrant 4 (6-0): Home vs a 161-353, Neutral vs 201-353, Away vs 241-353

WINS
#234 on Jan 16 (H) UMKC
#192 on Jan 16 (H) Green Bay
#324 on Jan 16 (H) Alabama State
#269 on Jan 16 (H) Western Carolina
#343 on Jan 16 (H) Savannah State
#316 on Jan 16 (H) Bryant

 

[FranklinHawk]

I think a couple things are holding Iowa down a bit:

* We had 6 Quad Four opponents (all wins).

* We lost to Nebraska.

Yep, and Depaul has tanked.

 

[thirdandpunting]

Losing to Purdue by 40 hit the efficiency metrics hard

On Kenpom, the Hawks are a point out of 14th... I was getting pissy at OSU last night hitting three straight threes in garbage time.

As people have been saying NET is fluid.

 

[jonesy5960]

What I find interesting is that we've gone through more than 3/4 of a season that, by pretty much everyone's estimation has been very successful compared to expectations. We are vying for a BTT bye and a 5 or 6 seed in the dance and yet our NET ranking from the start of the season until now is only 6 positions different (27 vs 33).

 

[Hawksfor3]

Bonus: Iowa will be slotted into the Omaha pods, the Midwest regional or both.

If that were to happen I'd try to get there. We're less than 15 mi from the Rocky Mtns.

 

[Franisdaman]

What I find interesting is that we've gone through more than 3/4 of a season that, by pretty much everyone's estimation has been very successful compared to expectations. We are vying for a BTT bye and a 5 or 6 seed in the dance and yet our NET ranking from the start of the season until now is only 6 positions different (27 vs 33).

Losing at Debbie was a big one day blow that Iowa has had to overcome. In one day we went from #33 (on Jan 7) to #47 (on Jan 8).

In addition, as others have suggested, the loss to DePaul is now looking pretty bad. They are now #74 and trending downward. They are currently a Quad 2 loss and could soon be Quad 3.

We currently have six Quad 4 wins, which includes #339 SIU-Edwardsville, #318 Cal Poly and #352 Kennesaw State. Those hurt.

Remember, too, that there are 5 components to NET, including offensive and defensive efficiencies. Iowa is great on offense but sometimes, as we know, they are lacking defensively (at Purdue, for example).


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[Franisdaman]

ALL B1G TEAMS' (Feb 22, 2020) NET RANKINGS:

Rank..Previous..Road..Neutral..Home..Non Div 1
8 8 Maryland Big Ten 22-4 4-4 3-0 15-0 0-0
13 13 Michigan St. Big Ten 18-9 5-4 3-2 10-3 0-0
21 21 Ohio St. Big Ten 17-9 3-6 1-1 13-2 0-0
24 24 Michigan Big Ten 17-9 3-5 4-0 10-4 0-0
25 25 Penn St. Big Ten 20-6 5-3 2-1 13-2 0-0
27 27 Iowa Big Ten 19-8 4-5 2-2 13-1 0-0
29 29 Wisconsin Big Ten 16-10 4-6 0-3 12-1 0-0
33 33 Illinois Big Ten 16-9 5-5 0-1 11-3 1-0
34 32 Purdue Big Ten 14-13 3-8 1-2 10-3 0-0
35 35 Rutgers Big Ten 17-9 1-6 0-2 16-1 1-0
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53 54 Minnesota Big Ten 12-13 1-8 1-1 10-4 0-0
58 59 Indiana Big Ten 17-9 2-6 2-0 13-3 0-0
159 160 Northwestern Big Ten 6-19 1-9 1-1 4-9 0-0
184 183 Nebraska Big Ten 7-19 0-9 2-1 5-9 0-0

 

[Franisdaman]

On Feb 22:

Only 3 teams (Baylor, Kansas, Seton Hall) have more Quad 1 wins than Iowa.

10: Baylor, Kansas, Seton Hall
08: IOWA, Villanova, Creighton, Butler

 

[Franisdaman]

Nothing changed in the 4 quads for Iowa (19-8):
8-6: Quad 1
4-1: Quad 2
1-1: Quad 3
6-0: Quad 4

 

[Franisdaman]

NET rankings makes little to no sense. West Va is .500 in the Big 12 and is ranked 10. OSU is still ahead of us comfortably even after we curb stomped them Thursday night. I know it looks at the entire season but we have as many Quad 1/2 wins as just about any one in the country but are in the mid to high 20's?

That DePaul loss keeps looking worse and worse

Almost a quad 3

As I stated above today, only 3 teams (Baylor, Kansas, Seton Hall) have more Quad 1 wins than Iowa.

Baylor, however, has a total of 15 Quad 1+2 wins; Kansas has 17; Seton Hall has 14; Iowa has 12. Iowa also has SIX quad 4 wins (not good); Baylor has just 4.

Win more Quad 1 and 2 games and schedule less Quad 4 games? You get rewarded in the NET rankings.

The Breakdown:

10 Quad 1 wins: Baylor, Kansas, Seton Hall
08 Quad 1 wins: IOWA, Villanova, Creighton, Butler

05: Quad 2 wins, #2 Baylor
07: Quad 2 wins, #4 Kansas
04: Quad 2 wins, #16 Seton Hall
04: Quad 2 wins, #27 IOWA

04: Quad 4 wins, Baylor
03: Quad 4 wins, Kansas
04: Quad 4 wins, Seton Hall
06: Quad 4 wins, IOWA

In addition, as I stated yesterday, above:

Losing at #184 Debbie was a big one day blow that Iowa has had to overcome. In one day we went from #33 (on Jan 7) to #47 (on Jan 8).

In addition, as others have suggested in this thread, the loss to DePaul is now looking pretty bad. They are now #74 and trending downward. They are currently a Quad 2 loss and could soon be Quad 3.

We currently have six Quad 4 wins, which includes #339 SIU-Edwardsville, #318 Cal Poly and #352 Kennesaw State. Those hurt.

Remember, too, that there are 5 components to NET, including offensive and defensive efficiencies. Iowa is great on offense but sometimes, as we know, they are lacking defensively (at Purdue, for example).

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[Franisdaman]

ON FEB 23: Number of teams in the Top 50 of the NET Rankings:

10: B1G
7: Big East
6: PAC 12
6: SEC
4: Big 12
4: ACC


B1G

Rank..Previous..Road..Neutral..Home..Non Div 1
7 8 Maryland Big Ten 22-4 4-4 3-0 15-0 0-0
13 13 Michigan St. Big Ten 18-9 5-4 3-2 10-3 0-0
22 21 Ohio St. Big Ten 17-9 3-6 1-1 13-2 0-0
23 24 Michigan Big Ten 18-9 4-5 4-0 10-4 0-0
24 25 Penn St. Big Ten 20-6 5-3 2-1 13-2 0-0
27 27 Iowa Big Ten 19-8 4-5 2-2 13-1 0-0
30 29 Wisconsin Big Ten 16-10 4-6 0-3 12-1 0-0
33 35 Rutgers Big Ten 17-9 1-6 0-2 16-1 1-0
35 33 Illinois Big Ten 16-9 5-5 0-1 11-3 1-0
37 34 Purdue Big Ten 14-14 3-8 1-2 10-4 0-0
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51 53 Minnesota Big Ten 12-13 1-8 1-1 10-4 0-0
58 58 Indiana Big Ten 17-9 2-6 2-0 13-3 0-0
164 159 Northwestern Big Ten 6-19 1-9 1-1 4-9 0-0
186 184 Nebraska Big Ten 7-19 0-9 2-1 5-9 0-0

Big East

Rank..Previous..Road..Neutral..Home..Non Div 1
10 14 Villanova Big East 21-6 7-3 3-1 11-2 0-0
11 11 Creighton Big East 20-6 6-4 1-1 13-1 1-0
17 16 Seton Hall Big East 19-7 7-3 2-1 10-3 0-0
20 17 Butler Big East 19-8 4-5 3-0 12-3 0-0
26 23 Marquette Big East 17-9 3-6 2-1 12-2 0-0
44 40 Xavier Big East 17-10 4-5 2-1 11-4 0-0
46 50 Providence Big East 16-12 4-6 1-3 11-3 0-0
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55 52 Georgetown Big East 15-12 4-5 1-1 10-6 0-0
68 64 St. John's (NY) Big East 14-12 1-5 2-1 11-6 0-0
72 74 DePaul Big East 13-13 4-6 0-0 9-7 1-0

PAC 12

Rank..Previous..Road..Neutral..Home..Non Div 1
9 7 Arizona Pac-12 19-8 4-4 3-1 12-3 0-0
18 12 Colorado Pac-12 21-7 4-4 4-0 13-3 0-0
19 19 Oregon Pac-12 21-7 5-5 2-2 14-0 0-0
32 32 Stanford Pac-12 17-9 3-4 2-1 12-4 0-0
41 44 Southern California Pac-12 19-8 5-5 3-1 11-2 0-0
42 41 Arizona St. Pac-12 19-8 6-3 1-3 12-2 0-0
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64 73 Washington Pac-12 13-15 1-7 2-2 10-6 0-0
70 75 Oregon St. Pac-12 15-12 3-7 2-1 10-4 0-0
78 90 UCLA Pac-12 16-11 5-4 0-3 11-4 1-0
90 92 Utah Pac-12 14-12 1-8 3-2 10-2 0-0
115 112 Washington St. Pac-12 14-13 1-7 1-2 12-4 0-0
143 138 California Pac-12 11-16 1-8 0-3 10-5 0-0


SEC

Rank..Previous..Road..Neutral..Home..Non Div 1
21 22 Kentucky SEC 22-5 6-2 1-2 15-1 0-0
28 28 Auburn SEC 23-4 4-4 4-0 15-0 0-0
29 30 LSU SEC 19-8 5-4 1-2 13-2 0-0
34 36 Florida SEC 17-10 3-6 4-1 10-3 0-0
40 45 Alabama SEC 15-12 4-6 2-2 9-4 0-0
45 48 Arkansas SEC 17-10 4-6 0-0 13-4 0-0
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56 49 Mississippi St. SEC 17-10 3-6 2-2 12-2 0-0
63 61 South Carolina SEC 16-11 6-4 0-2 10-5 0-0
65 65 Tennessee SEC 15-12 3-6 2-1 10-5 0-0
87 84 Missouri SEC 13-14 1-9 1-2 11-3 0-0
88 89 Georgia SEC 13-13 2-7 0-2 11-4 1-0
94 85 Ole Miss SEC 13-14 1-8 2-1 10-5 0-0
117 124 Texas A&M SEC 14-12 4-3 0-4 10-5 0-0
145 148 Vanderbilt SEC 9-18 0-8 0-1 9-9 0-0


Big 12

Rank..Previous..Road..Neutral..Home..Non Div 1
1 4 Kansas Big 12 23-3 8-1 2-1 13-1 1-0
2 2 Baylor Big 12 24-2 9-0 3-1 12-1 0-0
15 10 West Virginia Big 12 19-8 3-7 3-0 13-1 0-0
16 20 Texas Tech Big 12 18-9 3-5 2-2 13-2 0-0
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54 46 Oklahoma Big 12 16-11 2-8 3-1 11-2 0-0
67 72 Oklahoma St. Big 12 14-13 4-6 2-1 8-6 0-0
75 78 Texas Big 12 16-11 4-5 2-1 10-5 0-0
83 70 Iowa St. Big 12 11-16 0-9 1-2 10-5 0-0
93 98 TCU Big 12 14-12 1-7 1-1 12-4 1-0
101 97 Kansas St. Big 12 9-18 1-8 0-3 8-7 0-0

ACC

Rank..Previous..Road..Neutral..Home..Non Div 1
6 6 Duke ACC 23-4 7-2 3-0 13-2 0-0
8 9 Louisville ACC 23-5 6-3 1-1 16-1 0-0
12 15 Florida St. ACC 23-4 6-4 3-0 14-0 0-0
50 54 Virginia ACC 19-7 5-4 2-0 12-3 0-0
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52 51 NC State ACC 17-10 5-5 0-1 12-4 0-0
59 60 Notre Dame ACC 16-10 3-6 0-1 13-3 0-0
66 66 Syracuse ACC 15-12 4-4 0-2 11-6 0-0
74 81 Clemson ACC 14-12 3-6 1-1 10-5 0-0
79 80 Georgia Tech ACC 12-14 5-7 1-1 6-6 1-0
80 79 Virginia Tech ACC 15-12 3-5 1-2 11-5 0-0
96 93 North Carolina ACC 10-17 2-8 3-1 5-8 0-0
98 99 Miami (FL) ACC 14-12 4-6 2-2 8-4 0-0
100 101 Pittsburgh ACC 15-13 2-7 2-0 11-6 0-0
109 108 Wake Forest ACC 11-15 2-9 2-1 7-5 0-0
149 143 Boston College ACC 13-15 4-7 1-0 8-8 0-0


OTHERS

Rank..Previous..Road..Neutral..Home..Non Div 1
5 1 San Diego St. Mountain West 25-1 10-0 3-0 12-1 1-0
53 55 Cincinnati AAC 17-9 4-5 2-2 11-2 0-0
158 162 Oral Roberts Summit League 10-13 3-12 0-0 7-1 4-0
165 164 North Florida ASUN 17-11 6-9 1-1 10-1 2-0

47 47 UNI MVC 20-5 7-4 1-1 12-0 2-0
166 158 Drake MVC 16-11 2-9 2-1 12-1 2-0

 

[Franisdaman]

Iowa State (11-16) is now a Quad 2 win (Away vs 76-135).

In one day they went from #70 to #83.

 

[Franisdaman]

Nothing changed in the 4 quads for Iowa (19-8):
8-6: Quad 1
4-1: Quad 2
1-1: Quad 3
6-0: Quad 4

Note the movement from yesterday (above) to today (below):

7-6: Quad 1 (ISU is now Quad 2)
5-1: Quad 2
2-1: Quad 3
5-0: Quad 4

 

[Franisdaman]

Only 6 teams have more Quad 1 wins than Iowa. They are listed below.

And when you add in the Quad 2 wins?

Total, Quad 1 + 2 wins
18: 11 +7, #1 Kansas
15: 10 + 5, #2 Baylor
14: 10+4, #17 Seton Hall
14: 8+6, #10 Villanova
13: 8+5, #11 Creighton
13: 8+5, #20 Butler
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12: 7+5, #27 IOWA

 

[Hawksfor3]

4: ACC

Wow, ACC looks pretty weak. Md. trying to come back against Ohio St.

 

[HawkRose]

I've been trying to keep an open mind but the NET Ranking seems like a complete failure to me. They need to list the pt differential in between places.

I hope the committee is fairly fluid around the rankings but I seem to remember them sticking closely to them last year.

How is Arizona 9? How are we 11 places behind Texas Tech?

It's better than the RPI (absolute garbage, only 1 Big Ten team in top 30, Iowa is 31) but still a very lacking system without transparency.

 

[Franisdaman]

Yeah, I have never been impressed with Sean Miller and his Arizona teams. I watched Oregon at Arizona last night and neither team impressed me. Oregon is a one man show.

NET has 5 components and Iowa has some bad losses (DePaul, Debbie) and the blow out loss at Purdue killed our defensive efficiency aspect of the NET.

And then when you look at teams' wins and losses and sort them into the 4 quads by NET rankings, this is what you get (end of this post). Again, Arizona's results don't look that more impressive than Iowa's. But again, it's who Iowa lost to and by how much that has hurt us.

Texas Tech is a head scratcher, though. 8 wins vs quad 4 teams? Only 3 quad 1 wins (Iowa has 7)? Wow. Again, when you play a quad 4 team, this is what the opponent's NET ranking is: Home vs a 161-353, Neutral vs 201-353, Away vs 241-353.

#9 Arizona (19-8)
3-6: Quad 1
5-1: Quad 2
7-1: Quad 3
4-0: Quad 4

#16 Texas Tech (18-9)
3-8: Quad 1
4-1: Quad 2
3-0: Quad 3
8-0: Quad 4

#27 IOWA (19-8)
7-6: Quad 1
5-1: Quad 2
2-1: Quad 3
5-0: Quad 4

 

[Franisdaman]

Feb 24 NET Rankings:


Rank..Previous..Road..Neutral..Home..Non Div 1
10 7 Maryland Big Ten 22-5 4-5 3-0 15-0 0-0
13 13 Michigan St. Big Ten 18-9 5-4 3-2 10-3 0-0
19 22 Ohio St. Big Ten 18-9 3-6 1-1 14-2 0-0
22 23 Michigan Big Ten 18-9 4-5 4-0 10-4 0-0
25 24 Penn St. Big Ten 20-7 5-4 2-1 13-2 0-0
27 27 Iowa Big Ten 19-8 4-5 2-2 13-1 0-0
29 30 Wisconsin Big Ten 17-10 4-6 0-3 13-1 0-0
34 33 Rutgers Big Ten 17-10 1-7 0-2 16-1 1-0
35 35 Illinois Big Ten 16-9 5-5 0-1 11-3 1-0
36 37 Purdue Big Ten 14-14 3-8 1-2 10-4 0-0
42 51 Minnesota Big Ten 13-13 2-8 1-1 10-4 0-0
52 58 Indiana Big Ten 18-9 2-6 2-0 14-3 0-0
177 164 Northwestern Big Ten 6-20 1-9 1-1 4-10 0-0
186 186 Nebraska Big Ten 7-19 0-9 2-1 5-9 0-0

 

[Franisdaman]

Note the movement from yesterday (above) to today (below):

7-6: Quad 1 (ISU is now Quad 2)
5-1: Quad 2
2-1: Quad 3
5-0: Quad 4

There is no movement from yesterday (above) to today (below):

7-6: Quad 1 (ISU is now Quad 2)
5-1: Quad 2
2-1: Quad 3
5-0: Quad 4
........................
19-8 overall record

 

[EpenesaEpenesa]

Rutgers flirting with disaster a little bit. They don’t exactly have a cakewalk to close it out either

 

[Franisdaman]

I've been trying to keep an open mind but the NET Ranking seems like a complete failure to me. They need to list the pt differential in between places.

I hope the committee is fairly fluid around the rankings but I seem to remember them sticking closely to them last year.

How is Arizona 9? How are we 11 places behind Texas Tech?

It's better than the RPI (absolute garbage, only 1 Big Ten team in top 30, Iowa is 31) but still a very lacking system without transparency.

What I find interesting is that we've gone through more than 3/4 of a season that, by pretty much everyone's estimation has been very successful compared to expectations. We are vying for a BTT bye and a 5 or 6 seed in the dance and yet our NET ranking from the start of the season until now is only 6 positions different (27 vs 33).

one thing i find interesting is that today Iowa is projected as a 6 seed, which means we'd be ranked between 21 and 24. NET has us at 27. So, maybe NET is not so far off?

 

[Franisdaman]

Compare Iowa's Results to date to Michigan State's:

#27 IOWA
7-6: Quad 1 (Iowa State is now Quad 2)
5-1: Quad 2
2-1: Quad 3
5-0: Quad 4
........................
19-8 overall record


#13 MICHIGAN STATE
5-8: Quad 1
5-1: Quad 2
2-0: Quad 3
6-0: Quad 4
........................
18-9 overall record