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Marg Meltdown

The thing about being on the right side of cultural norms and behavioral norms means that's exactly what you get to do.

Please explain where in the ticket price, Marg is figured in? Or where in the ticket price you get to have the players and people on the court watch you?
You're not on the right side of culture for ****s sake... wake up...🤣🤣
 
If you've reffed high school basketball in eastern Iowa for any amount of time, you've been yelled at by Margaret McCaffery. If you've been doing it as long as some of us have, you've also been yelled at by Tanya Alford (youth tournaments).
Tanya Alford must be one of the 2 that act like this in U.S like some idiots on here think...🤣
 
Oh stop. The woman has issues, and she displays it IN PUBLIC for everyone to see. That makes it fair game. A coaches wife getting kicked out of multiple college and high school gyms for that type of behavior is WAY over the line. Its like what happened to Mark Mangino while he was at Kansas. His son was the QB for Lawrence high school, and Mark got to walk the sidelines during games. Well one game he didn't like a call made against his kid and he charged the ref on the field and was ejected from ever attending another game at that school or even conference games. Just for the record the coach (and by extension his wife) are representing the University at any function their at. Not to mention he's paid a kings ransom to do that job. A little decorum from the coach AND his spouse, and his offspring is certainly not to much to expect...
I'm sorry, but I just can't see Mangino charging anywhere. Waddling, yes. Charging, no.
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But I get the point. Just because you're the spouse of a head coach (or head coach) at a major university does not give you the license to act like a jerk [other preferred noun edited for said decorum], in fact the exact opposite is more appropriate. (particularly in a relatively small community where your celebrity is heightened.)
 
A shirt like that is incredibly tasteless
It is also tasteless to issue a public statement that your son running over and killing a guy in a cross walk was totally unavoidable. Just comment on the incident being a tragedy and be done with it.

High school kids are going to behave like High school kids. A couple years back High school kids were chanting "Fire Fran" at one of Jack's games and PMAC and CMAC were there and they both got on Twitter after the game ranting about it. I think This was just before BTT and they went out and laid a 1st game turd in BTT like Fran's team's usually do.

The right thing to do is ignore it, bear it, keep your mouth shut OR quit taking the enormous amount of money for coaching a B-ball team. Let your job performance speak for itself.
 
I'm sorry, but I just can't see Mangino charging anywhere. Waddling, yes. Charging, no.
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But I get the point. Just because you're the spouse of a head coach (or head coach) at a major university does not give you the license to act like a jerk [other preferred noun edited for said decorum], in fact the exact opposite is more appropriate. (particularly in a relatively small community where your celebrity is heightened.)
Hea, Mark destroyed a few Golden corrals in the KC area in his time in Lawrence...lolol..
 
I guess the "Fire Fran" crowd is getting bored with hammering McCaffery for everything, so they now turn on his wife. Usually the family is exempt from this BS. Hey, no one has taken their daughter to task. She's probably an easy target.
Jees, if you can't see anything wrong with the coaches wife having to literally be removed from college and high school games because of her behavior, then I don't know what else to say.
 
I'm sorry, but I just can't see Mangino charging anywhere. Waddling, yes. Charging, no.
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But I get the point. Just because you're the spouse of a head coach (or head coach) at a major university does not give you the license to act like a jerk [other preferred noun edited for said decorum], in fact the exact opposite is more appropriate. (particularly in a relatively small community where your celebrity is heightened.)
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I think I’ve shared this before, but I have a friend who has a friend who was a GA or something under Mangino. He said Mangino would take a shit, wipe his ass with a towel and throw it in a ball in the corner. This kids job was to clean/launder those things.
 
Probably a lot more than 2 you just never hear about the others. What kind of parent doesn't support and cheer their kids on? You want them to just sit on their hands during a game? And yelling at the refs when they make a bad call is pretty much a given in any sport.
Everyone has a smartphone and a large number of people (especially college age kids) are trying to be the next Zapruder. If anyone of any note (including D level celebs like Ms McCaffery) acts the fool in public it is going to be recorded and put on social media platforms.
 
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I think I’ve shared this before, but I have a friend who has a friend who was a GA or something under Mangino. He said Mangino would take a shit, wipe his ass with a towel and throw it in a ball in the corner. This kids job was to clean/launder those things.
Look at the pic of Mangino above. Looks like it would be a tremendous challenge for him to use the conventional method.
 
“The right side of cultural norms”…???
If I were you bulldogs, I wouldn’t watch the games. But to come here and publicly criticize a coach’s wife over something you honestly don’t know what it who was being said? Your “Fran hate” or “Fran frustration” has overwhelmed your ability to reason. Jeeeebus…. Take a deep breath…all of you all.

What she said in the press conference I referenced is public knowledge. When you make yourself a target, you take what is coming your way. She ain't Lute's wife.
 
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The coach’s wife…………..:rolleyes:
I dont think I’ll ever go down that road…..Have your fun….and enjoy your outrage!
Oh, you're so holier the us I guess, huh? Say want you want. Fran and by extension his wife, (especially when she crosses into territory where she doesn't have ANY business being, like berating writers at Frans post game pressers), ARE representing THE University of Iowa when in public, and very handsomely paid to do that. Everybody knows who she is when she has these very public rants, and its an embarrassment to her husbands employer. I'm pretty certain if Fran worked in an upper management position for some fortune 500 company and his wife was "removed" from numerous public functions involved with her husbands work for her outrageous behavior she'd get his ass fired.
 
Oh, you're so holier the us I guess, huh? Say want you want. Fran and by extension his wife, (especially when she crosses into territory where she doesn't have ANY business being, like berating writers at Frans post game pressers), ARE representing THE University of Iowa when in public, and very handsomely paid to do that. Everybody knows who she is when she has these very public rants, and its an embarrassment to her husbands employer. I'm pretty certain if Fran worked in an upper management position for some fortune 500 company and his wife was "removed" from numerous public functions involved with her husbands work for her outrageous behavior she'd get his ass fired.
“holier than thou”? Nope…. Just smarter than most, J hope. Keep your eye on the ball here and don’t listen to all the extraneous noise. Fran’s bride has never been the issue.
 
“holier than thou”? Nope…. Just smarter than most, J hope. Keep your eye on the ball here and don’t listen to all the extraneous noise. Fran’s bride has never been the issue.
THE issue? No of course not. An issue, hell yes. A lot of coaches get upset about calls. Thats bad enough. How many school do you see their wives running around like a crazy person insulting people? If you're smarter then most , then that should be obvious. Hell, you don;t need to take the word of anyone here. The guys who cover the team have made their own comments about her behavior, although somewhat veiled because they don't want to get banned from covering the team. This was all known when Fran first came to Iowa 15 years ago. People from Siena were on here saying, watch out for Marge madness..
 
THE issue? No of course not. An issue, hell yes. A lot of coaches get upset about calls. Thats bad enough. How many school do you see their wives running around like a crazy person insulting people? If you're smarter then most , then that should be obvious. Hell, you don;t need to take the word of anyone here. The guys who cover the team have made their own comments about her behavior, although somewhat veiled because they don't want to get banned from covering the team. This was all known when Fran first came to Iowa 15 years ago. People from Siena were on here saying, watch out for Marge madness..

Marge Madness!!!!!!! Very good.
 
THE issue? No of course not. An issue, hell yes. A lot of coaches get upset about calls. Thats bad enough. How many school do you see their wives running around like a crazy person insulting people? If you're smarter then most , then that should be obvious. Hell, you don;t need to take the word of anyone here. The guys who cover the team have made their own comments about her behavior, although somewhat veiled because they don't want to get banned from covering the team. This was all known when Fran first came to Iowa 15 years ago. People from Siena were on here saying, watch out for Marge madness..
And your point?
My point is it’s small potatoes…the only reason it is mentioned is because many here are in a “dog pile on Fran” mode…Again, it has nothing to do with the issue at hand.
 
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And your point?
My point is it’s small potatoes…the only reason it is mentioned is because many here are in a “dog pile on Fran” mode…Again, it has nothing to do with the issue at hand.
Nobody said that, but its certainly another checkmark in the negative for retaining Fran going forward. As far as "piling on Fran", what are your expectations for him as HC? are you really okay with the direction of the mens program? If you think its just some random people on this website bitching, then WHY are the guys playing before a 2/3 empty Carver every game? The excuse this year is injuries I guess, but here's the deal In year 15 this is Frans roster. You have guys like Brauns and Mulvey who seem to be giving the team some life when they come in. Why were they not playing or being developed literally at ALL the last two years? As for Freeman, could he really not have played, or is the smoke that he's just done playing for Fran, and hitting the road accurate? That would signal much bigger issues inside the locker room. Is your stance that there is no benchmark that our HC needs to meet after 15 YEARS in order to not consider going in another direction? How many teams have had the NPOTY basically three years out of four and done absolutely nothing in the post season with that? Does that not signal that whatever Frans plan is, it simply isn't working?
 
Everyone has a smartphone and a large number of people (especially college age kids) are trying to be the next Zapruder. If anyone of any note (including D level celebs like Ms McCaffery) acts the fool in public it is going to be recorded and put on social media platforms.
We have President who lies everyday to the people of the nation……and no one apparently cares. So why should we care about a basketball coach’s wife acting. Strangely at a basketball game?
 
Nobody said that, but its certainly another checkmark in the negative for retaining Fran going forward. As far as "piling on Fran", what are your expectations for him as HC? are you really okay with the direction of the mens program? If you think its just some random people on this website bitching, then WHY are the guys playing before a 2/3 empty Carver every game? The excuse this year is injuries I guess, but here's the deal In year 15 this is Frans roster. You have guys like Brauns and Mulvey who seem to be giving the team some life when they come in. Why were they not playing or being developed literally at ALL the last two years? As for Freeman, could he really not have played, or is the smoke that he's just done playing for Fran, and hitting the road accurate? That would signal much bigger issues inside the locker room. Is your stance that there is no benchmark that our HC needs to meet after 15 YEARS in order to not consider going in another direction? How many teams have had the NPOTY basically three years out of four and done absolutely nothing in the post season with that? Does that not signal that whatever Frans plan is, it simply isn't working?
Honestly, I would pay some attention to your beefs except I think you are trying way too hard………and honestly, I have never ever heard ANYONE who knew Fran or played for him ever say anything bout positive things about Fran, his personality, his coaching ability and his family……ever. If you want to know a well regarded man in coaching circles, Fran would be that man.
Now coaching results….coaching style…go ahead and blast away…..that is what they get paid to do…….but unless you have something real, something documented and something FIRST hand, please take it somewhere else.
Name me a coach EVER who hasn’t had “problems in the locker room with a player” at one time or another…..Honestly, I have never heard a player say anything negative regarding Fran.
 
Honestly, I would pay some attention to your beefs except I think you are trying way too hard………and honestly, I have never ever heard ANYONE who knew Fran or played for him ever say anything bout positive things about Fran, his personality, his coaching ability and his family……ever. If you want to know a well regarded man in coaching circles, Fran would be that man.
Now coaching results….coaching style…go ahead and blast away…..that is what they get paid to do…….but unless you have something real, something documented and something FIRST hand, please take it somewhere else.
Name me a coach EVER who hasn’t had “problems in the locker room with a player” at one time or another…..Honestly, I have never heard a player say anything negative regarding Fran.
Lolol.. you are ridiculous. I just posted numerous issues with his coaching, and inability to win games specifically in March, and you glossed tight over it all. I'll ask you AGAIN, what are your expectations of a HC who has been at a school for 15 years, at one time had 3 NPOTY in a four year span, had some NBA players and a couple more two way contract fringe players (2nd round NBA players) and basically couldn't win an NCAA tournament game in that time period. Frans had about half of the top 20 all time scorers in Iowa history and can't put together enough defense to doing anything whatsoever in March. Things happen, bad matchups whatever, but not for 15years. As I said whatever his plan is, (and thats coaching style) its not working. So how many more years?
 
Lolol.. you are ridiculous. I just posted numerous issues with his coaching, and inability to win games specifically in March, and you glossed tight over it all. I'll ask you AGAIN, what are your expectations of a HC who has been at a school for 15 years, at one time had 3 NPOTY in a four year span, had some NBA players and a couple more two way contract fringe players (2nd round NBA players) and basically couldn't win an NCAA tournament game in that time period. Frans had about half of the top 20 all time scorers in Iowa history and can't put together enough defense to doing anything whatsoever in March. Things happen, bad matchups whatever, but not for 15years. As I said whatever his plan is, (and thats coaching style) its not working. So how many more years?
I have no expectations…..other than he fulfill his role as the school sees fit. Their expectations are the ones that count. Not mine.

There are folks like you that make my job a lot easier. Im 75 phuquin’ years old! I just dont wanna 3 putt any more. You guys figure out what to do about these idiot coaches…..Fire’m and hire’m to your hearts desire. Criticize’,, idolize’m….love’m and hate’m…..but dammit……BLAME someone for your disappointment.
 
I have no expectations…..other than he fulfill his role as the school sees fit. Their expectations are the ones that count. Not mine.

There are folks like you that make my job a lot easier. Im 75 phuquin’ years old! I just dont wanna 3 putt any more. You guys figure out what to do about these idiot coaches…..Fire’m and hire’m to your hearts desire. Criticize’,, idolize’m….love’m and hate’m…..but dammit……BLAME someone for your disappointment.
Your being an idiot. I'm not blaming shit. Hell its not even disappointment. Its apathy. Almost nobody gives a damn about Iowa mens basketball. Certainly not even the majority of ticket holders. Many don't even go to the games. I've NEVER been a "fire em" guy. NEVER. You can check my posts for the years I've been on here. Defended Kirk and for the most part Fran, BUT at some point he IS responsible for the condition of the program, is he not? I've always said these teams changing coaches every few years are crazy, but after 15 years there should be SOME accountability for the program moving in the right direction.
 
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Your being an idiot. I'm not blaming shit. Hell its not even disappointment. Its apathy. Almost nobody gives a damn about Iowa mens basketball. Certainly not even the majority of ticket holders. Many don't even go to the games. I've NEVER been a "fire em" guy. NEVER. You can check my posts for the years I've been on here. Defended Kirk and for the most part Fran, BUT at some point he IS responsible for the condition of the program, is he not? I've always said these teams changing coaches every few years are crazy, but after 15 years there should be SOME accountability for the program moving in the right direction.
We will find out very soon how much the University cares about the men’s basketball program.
 
Garza and how did I miss the other two?
I said basically. Garza finished second barely to Toppin (should have won it) and then won it the next year. And yes Murray didn't win it, but he was in strong consideration for the award and actually had the best numbers and offensive effeciency of anyone for a decade. Thats why I said basically. And then consider that we had Garza and the Murrays and Joe W. all on one team, and still couldn't get out of the first round.
 
I said basically. Garza finished second barely to Toppin (should have won it) and then won it the next year. And yes Murray didn't win it, but he was in strong consideration for the award and actually had the best numbers and offensive effeciency of anyone for a decade. Thats why I said basically. And then consider that we had Garza and the Murrays and Joe W. all on one team, and still couldn't get out of the first round.
Joe W. Might have been the poorest defensive basketballer to ever put on an Iowa uniform! He could jump, he could shoot but ge sure as hell was a non-factor of defense.
Jeeeebus, even the Grinch couldn’t get him to try on defense! He could score 25 a game and still be net negative for the game. But he could score points in certain nights.
 
I'll ask you AGAIN, what are your expectations of a HC who has been at a school for 15 years, at one time had 3 NPOTY in a four year span, had some NBA players and a couple more two way contract fringe players (2nd round NBA players) and basically couldn't win an NCAA tournament game in that time period.


I said basically. Garza finished second barely to Toppin (should have won it) and then won it the next year. And yes Murray didn't win it, but he was in strong consideration for the award and actually had the best numbers and offensive effeciency of anyone for a decade. Thats why I said basically. And then consider that we had Garza and the Murrays and Joe W. all on one team, and still couldn't get out of the first round.

No, you said they had three NPOY’s and “basically” couldn’t win an NCAA game. When in reality, they won two NCAA games, and had one season cancelled in the four year span.
 
No, you said they had three NPOY’s and “basically” couldn’t win an NCAA game. When in reality, they won two NCAA games, and had one season cancelled in the four year span.
Fine. My bad. Frans had no talent to work with. Keegan Murray was not considered one of the top power forwards in the country, and was not considered to be in the running for NPOTY, and Fran has a fine NCAA record of accomplishment.

For the record YES we advanced to the 2nd round of the NCAA in 2021 by crushing mighty 15th seed GrandCanyon State and then got blown out by Oregon who was an average pac team in round two. In 2022 we lost in round one to the mighty Richmond Spiders a 12 seed. And in 2023 we lost in the first round to Auburn. Of course in 2024 we didn't even get into the big dance and lost in round two of the NIT to Utah. A marvelous record of accomplishment. And we'll be lucky to get invited to post season play this year.
 
We have President who lies everyday to the people of the nation……and no one apparently cares. So why should we care about a basketball coach’s wife acting. Strangely at a basketball game?
I don't care in the least. I was just responding to another poster who implied that actions similar to Marg's occur often, and we just don't hear about it. In today's environment, I don't think that would be the case.
 
Fine. My bad. Frans had no talent to work with. Keegan Murray was not considered one of the top power forwards in the country, and was not considered to be in the running for NPOTY, and Fran has a fine NCAA record of accomplishment.

For the record YES we advanced to the 2nd round of the NCAA in 2021 by crushing mighty 15th seed GrandCanyon State and then got blown out by Oregon who was an average pac team in round two. In 2022 we lost in round one to the mighty Richmond Spiders a 12 seed. And in 2023 we lost in the first round to Auburn. Of course in 2024 we didn't even get into the big dance and lost in round two of the NIT to Utah. A marvelous record of accomplishment. And we'll be lucky to get invited to post season play this year.

An average PAC 12 team? They won the regular season in the PAC 12 outright. Then had an opening round bye before facing Iowa. Just stop, you’ve embarrassed yourself enough.
 
An average PAC 12 team? They won the regular season in the PAC 12 outright. Then had an opening round bye before facing Iowa. Just stop, you’ve embarrassed yourself enough.
Oh, because you nitpicked over me saying that Iowa basically had (which is what I said the first time, and then forgot the word basically three NPOTY guys in four years) Okay so Garza won one finished second once and many thought he should have won, and keegan was close, but your right we weren't close at all. An your nit picking after we lost to a 15 seed and a 12 seed n two of three years in the 1st round. Whatever we've been horrid in the NCAA tourney. Dispute away...
 
We have President who lies everyday to the people of the nation……and no one apparently cares. So why should we care about a basketball coach’s wife acting. Strangely at a basketball game?
Man. You can't help yourself. Are you an alt handle of Chis?
 
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