Nobody said that, but its certainly another checkmark in the negative for retaining Fran going forward. As far as "piling on Fran", what are your expectations for him as HC? are you really okay with the direction of the mens program? If you think its just some random people on this website bitching, then WHY are the guys playing before a 2/3 empty Carver every game? The excuse this year is injuries I guess, but here's the deal In year 15 this is Frans roster. You have guys like Brauns and Mulvey who seem to be giving the team some life when they come in. Why were they not playing or being developed literally at ALL the last two years? As for Freeman, could he really not have played, or is the smoke that he's just done playing for Fran, and hitting the road accurate? That would signal much bigger issues inside the locker room. Is your stance that there is no benchmark that our HC needs to meet after 15 YEARS in order to not consider going in another direction? How many teams have had the NPOTY basically three years out of four and done absolutely nothing in the post season with that? Does that not signal that whatever Frans plan is, it simply isn't working?