Maryland come up with the blueprint on how to beat us?

[hansenhawk]

Sell out of the run, and make a shaky pass protection Oline with an injured QB, and mediocre WR play beat you from the pocket?

They just weren't good enough to do it, but I do think teams will use that scheme coming up, definitely Indiana.

 

[SiouxCityHawkFan]

Sell out of the run, and make a shaky pass protection Oline with an injured QB, and mediocre WR play beat you from the pocket?

They just weren't good enough to do it, but I do think teams will use that scheme coming up, definitely Indiana.

Indiana's defense makes Maryland's look like the steel curtain.

 

[hansenhawk]

Yes, but we can't be completely mediocre on O either. Can we win a Big 12 game? We'll see I guess.

 

[SiouxCityHawkFan]

Win a big 12 game? Iowa's defense gave up 7 points today. Did that remind you of a Big 12 team?

 

[bettyhumpter]

Sell out of the run, and make a shaky pass protection Oline with an injured QB, and mediocre WR play beat you from the pocket?

They just weren't good enough to do it, but I do think teams will use that scheme coming up, definitely Indiana.

 

[Eternal Return]

Sell out of the run, and make a shaky pass protection Oline with an injured QB, and mediocre WR play beat you from the pocket?

They just weren't good enough to do it, but I do think teams will use that scheme coming up, definitely Indiana.

No, I don't think so. For one, Iowa was controlling the line of scrimmage in the first half, running well, passing well. Iowa's offensive line looked piss poor in the second half, not just when facing 9 or ten in the box. In the first half, CJ scrambled and came up hobbling a bit. I noticed his throws were off after that, not much on them, inaccurate, couldn't turn his hips or step into the ball too well. No doubt that impacted the way Maryland played D, but guess what? Iowa attempted TWO passes in the second half. I mean, yeah, if Iowa goes 95 percent run the rest of the year then defenses will destroy the Hawks. I don't see that happening. Iowa was up big and could afford to play conservative to protect CJ (especially with Iowa's D dominating). If CJ comes out next week at least as healthy as he started this game, Iowa will be fine. If he's in as bad of shape as he was in the second half, then Iowa should probably play Weighers. I'm pretty sure CJ will bounce back.

 

[93hawkeye]

Did James Daniels play much today? He seemed to really bring some muscle in the run blocking against Illinois and Northwestern

 

[icu81222]

The OP is Mr. Positive about everything.

Honestly, I don't think I have ever seen a more pessimistic person in my life.

Bet you are an awesome husband/father to deal with

 

[Suterman]

Maryland has a blueprint for complete mediocrity. We beat them by 16 points and I will take that 100% of the time.

 

[Scott559]

Iowa likes to run the ball, Teams want to keep Iowa from having success running the ball, Been the same blueprint for 17 years. Many, Many teams have stacked the box against Iowa over the years, It sure isn't anything new.

 

[Packer54]

Goog lord another crappy thread after a win.

 

[DodgerHawki]

Sell out of the run, and make a shaky pass protection Oline with an injured QB, and mediocre WR play beat you from the pocket?

They just weren't good enough to do it, but I do think teams will use that scheme coming up, definitely Indiana.

Was the blueprint "fall behind by 21 points and get outgained 240-65 when the game mattered"? Seriously. At halftime, KF made the decision that there was no way Maryland's wreck of an offense was scoring 21 points on Iowa without Iowa turning it over a lot. The entire third quarter, Iowa had lousy field positions, played it very close to the vest and Maryland still couldn't score. Then you are into the 4th quarter and same thing.

Yes, CJ's mobility is a huge concern and really changes the offense. But when the game was being decided (the first half) Iowa flat-out dominated, despite whatever ESPN or the talking heads want to say. At no time was Iowa ahead by less than 14 points in the second half. Oklahoma State trails for much of the game, gives up 53 points, and is lauded for "taking it to Texas Tech" because they scored 70. I happen to think Okie State is very good, but very different narratives.

Iowa could lose to Indiana. But if it happens, it will be due to Indiana's offense going off and Iowa making a crapload of mistakes on offense.

 

[HawkinMN]

Was the blueprint "fall behind by 21 points and get outgained 240-65 when the game mattered"? Seriously. At halftime, KF made the decision that there was no way Maryland's wreck of an offense was scoring 21 points on Iowa without Iowa turning it over a lot. The entire third quarter, Iowa had lousy field positions, played it very close to the vest and Maryland still couldn't score. Then you are into the 4th quarter and same thing.

Yes, CJ's mobility is a huge concern and really changes the offense. But when the game was being decided (the first half) Iowa flat-out dominated, despite whatever ESPN or the talking heads want to say. At no time was Iowa ahead by less than 14 points in the second half. Oklahoma State trails for much of the game, gives up 53 points, and is lauded for "taking it to Texas Tech" because they scored 70. I happen to think Okie State is very good, but very different narratives.

Iowa could lose to Indiana. But if it happens, it will be due to Indiana's offense going off and Iowa making a crapload of mistakes on offense.

100% correct.

 

[hawkmart]

Depends on who is out on the field I guess. Guessing 100% of 'us' weren't and won't be in Indiana. So really doesn't matter what MD did. As for the coaches and players I'm confident they'll be prepared.

 

[grosie#2]

And that's why Maryland beat the Hawks. That blue print worked real well the 1st half. Maybe the Iowa offense can have a little let down the 2nd half when their defense plays well.

 

[Hawk in SEC Country]

Did James Daniels play much today? He seemed to really bring some muscle in the run blocking against Illinois and Northwestern

He was playing mainly because people were hurt. those who were hurt are returning to the lineup.....therefore he goes back to the bench and rotates in when needed.

 

[MadDogC]

Indiana has talent. They lack a culture of winning or knowing how to win. Any day they focus and are determined they threaten anyone they play...

 

[icu81222]

Was the blueprint "fall behind by 21 points and get outgained 240-65 when the game mattered"? Seriously. At halftime, KF made the decision that there was no way Maryland's wreck of an offense was scoring 21 points on Iowa without Iowa turning it over a lot. The entire third quarter, Iowa had lousy field positions, played it very close to the vest and Maryland still couldn't score. Then you are into the 4th quarter and same thing.

Yes, CJ's mobility is a huge concern and really changes the offense. But when the game was being decided (the first half) Iowa flat-out dominated, despite whatever ESPN or the talking heads want to say. At no time was Iowa ahead by less than 14 points in the second half. Oklahoma State trails for much of the game, gives up 53 points, and is lauded for "taking it to Texas Tech" because they scored 70. I happen to think Okie State is very good, but very different narratives.

Iowa could lose to Indiana. But if it happens, it will be due to Indiana's offense going off and Iowa making a crapload of mistakes on offense.

Agree with all except "OSU is really good"

They have played nobody and needed a bad call/miracle to beat KSU.

OSU nearly got beat by Kansas. (The worst P5 team in the past 5 yrs)

 

[GunnerHawk]

Iowa was not going to throw the ball much in the second half. With our defense, let the clock run. It ended up a 16 point win because our kicking team had a let down.

Look at Indy against Rutgers. Kept throwing the ball with a 25 point lead and were intercepted twice to help Rutgers come back. FWIW, Maryland does have a very good defense, held PSU to 48 yards.
They also held Ohio State down.

That team has a lot of speed and talent.

Really happy with the win.

 

[icu81222]

Didnt iowa only attempt like three passes in the second half? That right there tells you the thought process for getting through the second half of that game.

 

[SLarew]

Was the blueprint "fall behind by 21 points and get outgained 240-65 when the game mattered"? Seriously. At halftime, KF made the decision that there was no way Maryland's wreck of an offense was scoring 21 points on Iowa without Iowa turning it over a lot. The entire third quarter, Iowa had lousy field positions, played it very close to the vest and Maryland still couldn't score. Then you are into the 4th quarter and same thing.

Yes, CJ's mobility is a huge concern and really changes the offense. But when the game was being decided (the first half) Iowa flat-out dominated, despite whatever ESPN or the talking heads want to say. At no time was Iowa ahead by less than 14 points in the second half. Oklahoma State trails for much of the game, gives up 53 points, and is lauded for "taking it to Texas Tech" because they scored 70. I happen to think Okie State is very good, but very different narratives.

Iowa could lose to Indiana. But if it happens, it will be due to Indiana's offense going off and Iowa making a crapload of mistakes on offense.

You read my mind as was planning to post similar reply

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

Sell out of the run, and make a shaky pass protection Oline with an injured QB, and mediocre WR play beat you from the pocket?

They just weren't good enough to do it, but I do think teams will use that scheme coming up, definitely Indiana.

 

[ghostOfHomer777]

Just read what Maryland's DT said about Iowa's running game. He essentially said that Iowa kept on running the same run every time - just to different sides depending on what the D showed them.

Given that Iowa was again playing with a new pairing of OTs ... my bet is that the game plan was to keep it simple and focus on fundamentals. Earlier in the season, we had "dug deep" on the different runs we would do ... showing opposing Ds a lot of different looks. I'll have to rewatch the game and break it down ... but my bet is that Iowa mostly went "base" running O vs Maryland. It worked for a half ... and not so much in the 2nd. But, by then, we essentially already had the game wrapped up.

My guess is that the more the "new" configuration of O-linemen play together ... the better they'll get.

 

[herecomethehawkeyes]

is this the thread where everybody says how nervous they are about the Indiana game?

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

is this the thread where everybody says how nervous they are about the Indiana game?

nah, most are waiting patiently until tomorrow for that one.

though the usual trolls are already in late season form with their predictable threads.

 

[DudeHawk]

Wide receiver play, and specifically their ability to gain separation against quality DBs, is clearly the weakness of this team. They looked like they were glued on the Maryland defenders for a majority of the game on Saturday. CJ is also prone to bouts of maddening innacuracy. And it's not just the injury(ies), either. He demonstrated this last year at Purdue and earlier this season, as well.

It's still going to take an elite run D to shut us down to the point that we will absolutely have to rely on the pass in order to move the ball. Nebraska is like 10th nationally in rush D, but they are such hot garbage overall that those pose little actual threat to upset us.

OSU's run D has actually been gashed pretty regularly this year, but they are #2 nationally in pass D, and that's not a good matchup for us. Michigan is great in both phases and would also pose numerous problems for our offense. I actually like our matchup against MSU's D better than the others, but Connor Cook is a stud and would give us fits on the other side of the ball.

The B1G CG will be tough, but we should be fine up until then.

 

[bagdropper]

Well, yeah. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think we've see it 8 times now this year too.

0 for 8 using that blueprint so far.

 

[EpenesaEpenesa]

Iowa lead 21-0 at halftime, dominating the game. CJ Beathard is dragging 1 leg around. The offense in the 2nd half was gonna be very vanilla, even though CJ took more hits than what I would have preferred in the 2nd half.

 

[DudeHawk]

Iowa lead 21-0 at halftime, dominating the game. CJ Beathard is dragging 1 leg around. The offense in the 2nd half was gonna be very vanilla, even though CJ took more hits than what I would have preferred in the 2nd half.

Going ultra-conservative is definitely part of it, but there are clearly others issues involved as well.

 

[DudeHawk]

Just read what Maryland's DT said about Iowa's running game. He essentially said that Iowa kept on running the same run every time - just to different sides depending on what the D showed them.

Given that Iowa was again playing with a new pairing of OTs ... my bet is that the game plan was to keep it simple and focus on fundamentals. Earlier in the season, we had "dug deep" on the different runs we would do ... showing opposing Ds a lot of different looks. I'll have to rewatch the game and break it down ... but my bet is that Iowa mostly went "base" running O vs Maryland. It worked for a half ... and not so much in the 2nd. But, by then, we essentially already had the game wrapped up.

My guess is that the more the "new" configuration of O-linemen play together ... the better they'll get.

We went for nearly 300 the previous 2 weeks with guys that have never even played tackle before. Then we get our starting LT back and have our worst (or 2nd worst) rushing output of the year (also the same week that we get our pre-season starting RB back after a 7 week absence), while facing the 3rd worst rushing D in the league?

Something doesn't compute there. The guy sitting behind me said that they shouldn't have messed with the starting OL that played at Northwestern, and he might have had a point. He was even from Boone Myers' hometown, LOL!

Also, when watching some highlights after I got home, on Wadley's TD that occurred with 8:30 left in the 2Q, the on-screen graphic indicates that at that point he has 10 carries for 60 yards. His final numbers according to the box score were 19 carries for 67. So over the final 38:30 of gametime, he only touched the ball 9 times for 7 yards? How is that even possible?

 

[GarryO37]

No. Maryland did not come up with a blue print to beat Iowa. Maryland was dominated for the majority of the game by Iowa. If that's considered the blue print on beating Iowa, then I hope the majority of teams buy in to that as a blue print to beat Iowa.

It was 31-7 halfway through the 4th quarter before the kick return for a TD. After that Maryland had 2 more possessions and went 3 and out on both. All Maryland did was prevent themselves from having to play Iowa's backups. Period.

 

[DudeHawk]

No. Maryland did not come up with a blue print to beat Iowa. Maryland was dominated for the majority of the game by Iowa. If that's considered the blue print on beating Iowa, then I hope the majority of teams buy in to that as a blue print to beat Iowa.

It was 31-7 halfway through the 4th quarter before the kick return for a TD. After that Maryland had 2 more possessions and went 3 and out on both. All Maryland did was prevent themselves from having to play Iowa's backups. Period.

Iowa dominated the 1st half, but Maryland definitely controlled the 2nd. I love how you say it was 31-7 before the KO return, but it was about to be 24-14 before D King's miracle return. We were getting our asses kicked. They had 68 total yards at half and ended with 241, so that's 173 in the 2nd half alone. That's pretty freaking good on a day when neither side cracked 300. They had 130 plus rush yards in the 2nd half alone on the #3 rush D in the country (yielding 75 per game total coming in).

You didn't watch the game if you don't understand that they were handing us our asses in the 2nd half. And this was basically with zero passing threat whatsoever.

 

[David1979]

The oline didn't perform well in the second half. That was the difference in the halves. They would block well one play and then not the next. I think there may have been a natural let up after getting up 21-0 in the first half. The offense also was playing very vanilla but I think it was more just the oline not executing.

 

[EpenesaEpenesa]

Going ultra-conservative is definitely part of it, but there are clearly others issues involved as well.

Ya there were. Certainly wasn't the OLs best effort in the 2nd half, even with Maryland loading the box. Defensively it was ok, not the best. But they did give Maryland 2 first downs and 30 yards with a couple facemask penalties on their scoring drive.

 

[iahawkeyes17]

Iowa dominated the 1st half, but Maryland definitely controlled the 2nd. I love how you say it was 31-7 before the KO return, but it was about to be 24-14 before D King's miracle return. We were getting our asses kicked. They had 68 total yards at half and ended with 241, so that's 173 in the 2nd half alone. That's pretty freaking good on a day when neither side cracked 300. They had 130 plus rush yards in the 2nd half alone on the #3 rush D in the country (yielding 75 per game total coming in).

You didn't watch the game if you don't understand that they were handing us our asses in the 2nd half. And this was basically with zero passing threat whatsoever.

For "controlling the 2nd half" they did a great job by finally scoring their first points of the game in the 4th qtr and using a special teams TD. Plus never being within 14 points or contending for the game. Plus how do you know they would have made it 24-14? Because they had one TD drive all day. And King's return wasn't a miracle.

For all those whining about 2nd half performance we shouldn't be too shocked we've seen this many of times when KF gets a big lead at half then just runs the game down and plays very vanilla style. He isn't like Hayden or Bielema who keeps pouring it on. See N'Western last year or 2 games that stick out like this were ISU and Mich St in 2010 where Iowa had huge halftime leads and only put up 7pts in the 2nd half.

 

[Qued18]

Pound the rock...make 1st downs...score touchdowns...eat the clock

3 RB's...I like the rotation and it's working
2 FB's...doing a great job blocking for the RB's
2 TE's...both have played well

We could double Indiana's T.O.P.

 

[TS568]

Agree with all except "OSU is really good"

They have played nobody and needed a bad call/miracle to beat KSU.

OSU nearly got beat by Kansas. (The worst P5 team in the past 5 yrs)

Not sure I would classify 58-10 as 'nearly getting beat'. Agree on Kansas though, there have been many games where they have given up 50-60 by early third quarter. They should implement a continuous running clock like in high school, coaches already are practically taking a knee against them for almost the entire second half.

 

[FranklinHawk]

Iowa dominated the 1st half, but Maryland definitely controlled the 2nd. I love how you say it was 31-7 before the KO return, but it was about to be 24-14 before D King's miracle return. We were getting our asses kicked. They had 68 total yards at half and ended with 241, so that's 173 in the 2nd half alone. That's pretty freaking good on a day when neither side cracked 300. They had 130 plus rush yards in the 2nd half alone on the #3 rush D in the country (yielding 75 per game total coming in).

You didn't watch the game if you don't understand that they were handing us our asses in the 2nd half. And this was basically with zero passing threat whatsoever.

Please explain why King's return was a miracle. Was Likely's kick return a miracle as well?

 

[GarryO37]

Iowa dominated the 1st half, but Maryland definitely controlled the 2nd. I love how you say it was 31-7 before the KO return, but it was about to be 24-14 before D King's miracle return. We were getting our asses kicked. They had 68 total yards at half and ended with 241, so that's 173 in the 2nd half alone. That's pretty freaking good on a day when neither side cracked 300. They had 130 plus rush yards in the 2nd half alone on the #3 rush D in the country (yielding 75 per game total coming in).

You didn't watch the game if you don't understand that they were handing us our asses in the 2nd half. And this was basically with zero passing threat whatsoever.

I just love when posters try to pass of hypothetical's as fact. I can to the same thing. The score would have ended 31-0 if it wasn't for a scoring drive helped out by two personal foul calls against Iowa and miracle kickoff return for a TD. Hills also fumbled the ball the play before that interception. That should have been scooped up by Iowa. Iowa also would have scored after the Taylor interception if it wasn't for that freak fumble by Taylor giving Maryland a first down. Iowa would have had the Ball at the Maryland 26 yard line. So the game should have ended 38-0. Add in the FG that Koehn should have made and it should have been 41-0. See how that work's?

Sorry, you don't get to take points away from Iowa and give them to Maryland based on what could have happened, or what you think was about to happen. The fact is that Desmond King read the play and jumped the route to intercept that ball and return it for a touchdown. They weren't about to score because they didn't score.

Maryland showed life for 2-3 series in the second half and we have posters here claiming that they created some kind of blue print to beat Iowa, BS. Like I said, all they did was keep Iowa's 2nd stringer's off the field.

 

[David1979]

Contemplate this. Iowa struggled in the second half, maybe played the worst on offense since the second half at Wisconsin, and still won the game by 16 points. oh yeah and they didn't have Ott, Canzeri, Boettger, or a fully healthy Duzey and a clearly hobbled Beathard. So people should just enjoy the ride.