Measles Outbreak/epidemic…
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Ignoring the fact, of course, that measles is a mild illness (contrary to all the non-stop, Big Pharma hysteria being spewed all over the place).
Your definition of “mild” is interesting. Death and permanent injury can absolutely have resulted from “measles”… it ain’t a head cold. It has claimed MILLIONS of lives world-wide.
Not at all close to truth. LMAO. Do you just make shit up?
The anti vaxx movement arose from a real fraudster of a doctor named Andrew Wakefield who claimed he had evidence in two studies in 1998 and 2002 that vaccines were causing autism. The studies have since been torn apart, though of course some people refused to believe it. And Wakefield was shown to be a fraudster.
This anti vaxx movement grew and grew from this fraudster / grifting POS and when actually looking back, it foreshadowed the trouble our society was heading into regarding disinformation spreading online and grifters using it to make money.
And if that is not enough for you, Russia exploited his crap….years before Covid….to help weaken the west.
Mind games: Russia updates an old tactic
Russia’s efforts to sow doubt over vaccinations and promote Andrew Wakefield’s theory about the measles, mumps and rubella vaccine causing autism might seem to open a new Machiavellian chapter in relations with the West. However, the tactic is decades old.In 1983 Soviet operatives planted a fa
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How disgraced anti-vaxxer Andrew Wakefield was embraced by Trump's America
Twenty years after his discredited paper linked autism to the MMR jab, the doctor – who was struck off the medical register in the UK – has become a leading light in the US and frighteningly influential worldwide
LMAO at the anti vax movement being a natural healing earthy thing.
How is that for a mic drop @RNHawk
Since we will never have 100% compliance or 100% effectiveness (even the MMR is like 97% effective), it makes more sense to focus on the origin of an outbreak. MMR doesn't just magically reappear because 100 students in a school didn't get vaccinated. Something or someone had to introduce the virus to that environment.
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Why should some people be forced to have the vaccine, but not others? An immigrant, legal or not, is living among the rest of us. Their status shouldn’t matter when it comes to the vaccine? Why weren’t they all made to have them?
Calm down dude. What I said doesn't even contradict what you said. I wasn't commenting on whose idea it was, rather the types of people who bought in. It was the earthy, all natural types who are fully bought in to organics, etc. understand? The types of people who would point out how many whales your killing because you drink water from a plastic bottle instead of reusable water bottle made of a certain kind of glass/metal. The people who turned vegetarian because they found out what was in a hot dog...those types were highly likely to not vaccinate their children.Not at all close to truth. LMAO. Do you just make shit up?
The anti vaxx movement arose from a real fraudster of a doctor named Andrew Wakefield who claimed he had evidence in two studies in 1998 and 2002 that vaccines were causing autism. The studies have since been torn apart, though of course some people refused to believe it. And Wakefield was shown to be a fraudster.
This anti vaxx movement grew and grew from this fraudster / grifting POS and when actually looking back, it foreshadowed the trouble our society was heading into regarding disinformation spreading online and grifters using it to make money.
And if that is not enough for you, Russia exploited his crap….years before Covid….to help weaken the west.
Mind games: Russia updates an old tactic
Russia’s efforts to sow doubt over vaccinations and promote Andrew Wakefield’s theory about the measles, mumps and rubella vaccine causing autism might seem to open a new Machiavellian chapter in relations with the West. However, the tactic is decades old.In 1983 Soviet operatives planted a fa
How disgraced anti-vaxxer Andrew Wakefield was embraced by Trump's America
Twenty years after his discredited paper linked autism to the MMR jab, the doctor – who was struck off the medical register in the UK – has become a leading light in the US and frighteningly influential worldwidewww.theguardian.com
LMAO at the anti vax movement being a natural healing earthy thing.
How is that for a mic drop @RNHawk
These people weren't isolated to one political party.
Same with the covid vaccine, well not by the millions, but you've had how many doses of that?
Lmao. Do YOU just make shit up?Not at all close to truth. LMAO. Do you just make shit up?
The anti vaxx movement arose from a real fraudster of a doctor named Andrew Wakefield who claimed he had evidence in two studies in 1998 and 2002 that vaccines were causing autism. The studies have since been torn apart, though of course some people refused to believe it. And Wakefield was shown to be a fraudster.
This anti vaxx movement grew and grew from this fraudster / grifting POS and when actually looking back, it foreshadowed the trouble our society was heading into regarding disinformation spreading online and grifters using it to make money.
And if that is not enough for you, Russia exploited his crap….years before Covid….to help weaken the west.
Mind games: Russia updates an old tactic
Russia’s efforts to sow doubt over vaccinations and promote Andrew Wakefield’s theory about the measles, mumps and rubella vaccine causing autism might seem to open a new Machiavellian chapter in relations with the West. However, the tactic is decades old.In 1983 Soviet operatives planted a fa
How disgraced anti-vaxxer Andrew Wakefield was embraced by Trump's America
Twenty years after his discredited paper linked autism to the MMR jab, the doctor – who was struck off the medical register in the UK – has become a leading light in the US and frighteningly influential worldwide
LMAO at the anti vax movement being a natural healing earthy thing.
How is that for a mic drop @RNHawk
Tell us, oh Wise One, were there a lot of soccer moms in the US with a subscription to The Lancet back in the late 90's?
Or did the increasing popularity of the internet and smartphones in general, and Facebook in particular, give millions of American women an outlet to vent their frustrations over dealing with their vaccine injured children (real or imagined).
If the Wakefield study wasn't a straw man, why did The Lancet wait twelve YEARS to retract it? Doesn't seem very science-based to me.
The huge rise of the anti-vax movement was an organic, grass roots result of millions of Americans finally having the tools to interact with one another. That's it. 🤷♂️
Jim, the current outbreak isn't linked to illegal immigration, it originated in a Mennonite community where vaccination rates are low due to religious exemptions and homeschooling...they aren’t subject to school vaccine mandates.
Legal immigrants and naturalized citizens are required to have the MMR vaccine. Even illegal border crossers receive vaccinations in detention facilities, though enforcement varies. So if we’re worried about unvaccinated people spreading disease, the bigger issue is vaccine refusal among all populations--not just immigrants.
If the concern is truly public health, the focus should be on improving vaccination rates across the board, not scapegoating a particular group.
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What to Know About Measles and Vaccines | Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
Experts worry that misinformation and falling vaccination rates could cause measles outbreaks to become more common in the U.S.
The current outbreak began in late January, and as of February 25, Texas has confirmed 124 cases—the majority in Gaines County—and nine cases are confirmed in neighboring Lea County, New Mexico. A death reported on February 26 is the first death from measles in the U.S. since 2015.
“Most of the cases are occurring in a Mennonite community that largely homeschools, so there would not be school vaccine mandates,” explains Bill Moss, MD, MPH, a professor in Epidemiology and executive director of the International Vaccine Access Center.
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So the Mennonite community was playing with a live virus and created an outbreak?
No, they were probably on a mission trip, contracted it in a 3rd world country and brought it back to their community. I'm sure they prayed for disease immunity before they left, though.
Well, international travel requires vaccination. There's no loophole or exceptions. I've been on a mission trip and I had to have MMR, Hep A and B, and one or two others up to date. So that's not likely it.No, they were probably on a mission trip, contracted it in a 3rd world country and brought it back to their community.
MAGAts would rather take medical advice from some random stranger named SoccerMomPatriot1776 on 4Chan than a medical doctor with an education and years of experience.
All of them….and Im still alive…..being “compromised” I find this well worth my while. I am very concerned about Kennedy and the the government backing away from next season’s flu vaccine…….influenza id nothing to phuque around with for most ages. Kennedy is a phuquin’ quack!
DOGE is working hard to destroy that system too (public health and NIH). These institutions job is to track and trace these outbreaks……but they are r a prime DOGE target.
Well they've gotta do their own research ya know.
blind trust can bite you in the ass, no matter who or what you believe.
I only put my blind trust in Dr. 'I AM the science' Fauci.
In principle, I don’t disagree. But if you were playing the odds, who would you put your money on--John Smith, MD, PhD, a medical doctor and disease research specialist, or SoccerMomPatriot1776 who's pretty sharp with a web browser search engine and well respected among her Facebook Group titled 'Vaccines--The Truth They Don't Want You To Know'?
At this point, neither, but I would have to ask what Soccer Mom's agenda is, because Dr Smith's agenda is about making lots and lots of money, and hopefully being a good an honest doctor, I have no idea what Soccer Mom's motivation is.
Someone is ignorant regarding how herd immunity works. Unsurprising.
Wait - are you saying Covid didn't result in the loss of millions of lives? Or are you talking about Measles? Either way you're an absolute fool
Nonsense like anti-vaxxing often takes time to catch hold of an audience. No doubt social media helped with that but you seem to forget it was around long before Facebook or Twitter. And this type of conspiracy theory spread widely even before home computers were widely used. It's a complete fallacy to place this on a move to "organic" and internet communication.
Some people, like you, are weak minded when it comes to critical thinking. You also have a huge case of Dunning Krueger that you feed with confirmation bias.
Nope. It is not.
Already one dead kid. There will be more, along with serious long-term side effects for many others.
That's another piece of misinformation from you. Most countries do not require vaccination.
You're not bright.
Which is ironic since you and several others will blindly cling to what the fringe elements and other anonymous posters say.
Lol - this is why you're such a rube. You'll pretend to know what the doctor's motivation is while giving the Soccer Mom a pass.
And not understanding that SoccerMomPatriot1776 is actually a Russian troll named Igor.
Don’t you have a personal physician you see when you are ill? I doint think I could ever ger an appointment with Der. Fauci/…..so I see one or two in the Des Moines area.
I don't pretend to know either's motivation. But if the doctors aren't in it for the money, why are they all driving BMWs and Mercedes and Teslas?
A rube... LOVE IT. I think I should get a shirt made that says HBOT Rube and wear it with pride, since you guys love you some pride.
Probably for the same reasons restraunteurs, gas station owners, pharmacists, plumbers and retirees drive these cars, KF…..they can afford them.
