15 starters, 15 black dudes. So, let’s keep recruiting guys that look like they just came out of the J Crew catalog! That plan has worked out so damn well!!!
Miami, K-State and San Diego St achieved more in 2 days than we’ve achieved in 36 years!!
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I agree with the title of your post but not the whole all black team thing.
Bobby Hurley says hello. Put a young, white, 6 foot Bobby Hurley on the hawks last year and this year at the point and the hawks would have won a ton more games and gone farther in the tourneys.
I have watch some Princeton highlights and they have some white guy guards who can move the ball around the court and quickly.
Fran just needs to recruit some really damn great point guards no matter what the color of their skin. Enough said
$hit happens.
The NCAAT is not what it used to be.
It's evolving before our eyes.
The NCAAT is not what it used to be.
It's evolving before our eyes.
OP what color was our National Player of the Year a couple of years ago? What color was our starting point guard this year? We need talented players period. Especially at guard. And take a look at our WBB. What color is our point guard?
There's a discussion to be had in there that people are letting slide under the radar, although I've also seen a few outlets sort of start to pick it up.......
I don't think Bobby would Hurley would start over CMAC at Iowa since Bobby Assist to TO ratio was not as good as CMAC.
The starters on Elite8 teams are made up of Elite basketball players
Being White doesn't mean you can't be an elite B-ball player but statistics say if you put together an Elite team you would be hard pressed put together a team with multiple white starters. The NBA is 17% white and 72% African American--so Roughly 4:1 ratio. That is a good estimation of the white population of elite B-Ball players. I haven't looked at Elite8 rosters, but I would guess the 17% figure is good estimate for white player representation among this years Elite8 starters.
When Iowa rolls out lineups with 3 or 4 white starters, it is not impossible that they could be elite players but statistically it is more than likely, they are not elite. Let's say you put together an Elite population of players and drafted from it...it would be made up of 17% white players... your make your 1st pick at random and you have 17% chance of having an elite white player.....you make a 2nd pick and again your chances are 17%....but the chances you've picked two elite players that are both white is only 0.17 * 0.17....so 2.89%...yes you get to draft more players so you probably do end up with 1 white starter, but getting to 3 white starters is highly unlikely.
So some of Fran's teams like the Weezy, CMAC, Garza, Fredrick,, JBO team with 5 white starters....it really was improbable statistically that it would be an elite8 type team and they in fact proved that fact.
They finished somewhere in in the 32-64 range in that NCAA tourney despite what turned out to be
two elite starters (Weezy, Garza both have sniffed the NBA). The other 3 starters unfortunately were far from Elite.
You're lit.
Hurley was Sac's 7th pick in the draft when he was in a serious car accident the December of his rookie season.
But but but some white guy somewhere is elite so therefore all white guys are as good!
My post from a recent thread on this topic is unassailable:
“Those of you that think race indicates quality of a basketball player are ignorant.
If you give me 5 white guys and 5 black guys and ask me to pick a Bball team with no knowledge of the players other than their race, I am going to pick the 5 black players. Why? Because black players dominate Bball rosters.
But that is not how anyone recruits. One does not recruit blind to all other factors about a player.
Okey Ukah was not as good as Aaron White”
We don’t need more black players. We need better players.
Yes you love the Ukah comment. You think you're making such an astute point. Very similar to the San Francisco people in South Park, you'd fit right in with them.
You're the guy who said honkies are better cornerbacks than brothas so we can't take you seriously.
Yes, and most better players are, guess what, black! 90 of the top 100 high school b-ball players are black! Those damn rankings must be wrong!
I think it’s more like recruit some really damn good point guards because now he won’t take any minutes away from your son!
Back in the day, you would never find a college team with a black point guard (1960’s into 70’s) either. In college, black QBs were basically non-existent and in the pros they just dint exist. In MLB black pitchers were the exception…in the NBA the Celtics were one of the few teams with more than black starter…. Times change.
Clark Kellogg wrote a piece on this a few weeks ago. Basically with the extra year of eligibility from the Covid rules and the new transfer rules, and NIL, teams are getting older and recreating themselves on the fly. 23 and 24 year old players are making a difference over the programs that recruit the one-and-done type of players that we have seen in the last decade or two.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-b...-kellogg-including-his-final-four-selections/
