Michigan has now flipped 3 Iowa commits in the last 5 seasons

[BubsFinn]

If Jim doesn’t reach the BTCG soon, he may be looking for an NFL coordinator job. He’s pulled every rabbit out of every hat he owns, but he’s still 3rd at best in the BTE. The good folks in Ann Arbor are not known for their patience.

 

[cmhawks99]

If Jim doesn’t reach the BTCG soon, he may be looking for an NFL coordinator job. He’s pulled every rabbit out of every hat he owns, but he’s still 3rd at best in the BTE. The good folks in Ann Arbor are not known for their patience.

Which is why they are where they are....

 

[DodgerHawki]

This isn't how it works. If a commit is honest with our coaches and wants to go visit somewhere, our coaches have given them that opportunity.

Yes Van Sumeren going to Michigan had nothing to do with Iowa's policy. Same with Higdon. Zero, zilch. Van Sumeren grew up in Michigan, likely a Michigan fan. A week before signing day he gets an offer from his in-state favorite school. Why is this so hard to understand? When he took the visit to Michigan, I'm sure the Iowa coaches considered him gone. Not a big deal, it happens.

Higdon got a Michigan offer 1-2 days before singing day a couple years back. He liked the Michigan program better, so he went there. Both flips had nothing to do with the no-visit policy and everything to do with those players preferring to go to Michigan over Iowa.

 

[jimjim47]

Yeah honestly...I don't get it. Its also why I have such difficulty with these guys. They are so damn transparent you'd think they'd realize it themselves. They are so desperate to prove to themselves that KF is a stooge that they completely miss all the circumstances surrounding this issue.

As I've now said many times on here, this discussion as it pertains to the critic gets less tenable for them every year.

Lets start with the obvious...Rudock starts for 2 years at Iowa and actually performs quite well.

Getting better every year as a Soph, Jr, and then as a SR.

I'm pretty certain he went to at least 1 if not two QB camps while at Iowa.

He also had big Pre-Chem type classes in the middle of the week while at Iowa and missed multiple, multiple classes midweek all season long.

Then, he goes to UM, with ample motivation. I should say BIG time motivation, with the only goal to make Iowa look dumb and get ready for the NFL, his last chance. He wasn't taking super hard classes, he was prepping for his one shot to impress NFL scouts and if that didn't work...back to Med-school.

Now many of course, wouldn't swallow that, as obvious as it is. They latched on to some piece of wisdom JR imparted about how JH/UM pointed out a flaw....LOL

So I ask the board, those of you who think for yourselves. Does it sound right that a QB who came out of St Thomas Aquinas, one of the 20 best college football preparatory programs in the country, then to Iowa, while there going to 2 "elite" QB camps in the summer to improve his skills....was never told before "Michigan" that he had a tendency to throw of his back foot and not drive the ball.....?!?!?

Hell no.....He may have JUST now listened, but he was told. My owner here at the dealership coaches the offense for Bradley-Bourbonnais Soph team (Cam Harrells team) he is constantly talking about these dynamics. NO way he was "just told"....but for the critic that's all they needed.

Now it gets better, JR leaves the great QB guru and his QB's are worse, culminating in this disaster this year. where they score 25.8 points a game. WITH 23 year old QB's so please don't let anyone on here fool you.

Jake deserves his own credit, not JH. And Iowa deserves some credit for having two legit NFL QB's despite the vitriol of the critics.

See once JR went to the NFL, they had to make up some reason why. They couldn't stomach accepting it was obvious why the staff initially played JR over CJ....honestly this case is closed. Iowa had two good QB;s, easy to see why the decision was so difficult and Iowa to their credit, ultimately went with CJ who will all loved. But JR was a solid QB.

Ask Rudock what he thinks of Harbaugh's Qb coaching!

 

[cmhawks99]

Ask Rudock what he thinks of Harbaugh's Qb coaching!

Well I have addressed that at length. I'll ask O'Korn and Speight too....ooopss. Get my point.

 

[cidhawkeye]

The first guy wasn’t his recruit, and not sure how the second is relevant to the discussion- does the fact that Iowa has switched TEs to OL mean Iowa can’t develop TEs?

Let me see how this works. Hired Dec 30, 2014, Malzone and Gentry sign in February of 2015. Are you trying to tell me that Jim accepted a 4 star QB who committed to Michigan previously without thinking he fit Jims program? That sounds exactly like the type of thing Harbaugh does. Currently at Michigan he hasn't shown that he can develop his QB's but it is early in his regime there.

 

[TKingpin]

Polecat mentioned a few posts ago: “watch out for Michigan, their last 2 classes were Top 5,...”

So, when haven’t they had one of the TOP recruiting classes in the country??! And yet, Iowa still seems to beat them every year that we play them. Lately, so have almost all the other B1G teams that are above .500.

I know I can’t speak for the rest of you Hawk fans, but I am just SHAKING in my boots over those 2 highly rated recruiting classes at UM.

 

[IAHawk2011]

Let me see how this works. Hired Dec 30, 2014, Malzone and Gentry sign in February of 2015. Are you trying to tell me that Jim accepted a 4 star QB who committed to Michigan previously without thinking he fit Jims program? That sounds exactly like the type of thing Harbaugh does. Currently at Michigan he hasn't shown that he can develop his QB's but it is early in his regime there.

I’m telling you that he honored the scholarship Brady Hoke offered and Malzone committed to. I don’t know if Harbaugh was interested in Malzone or not, but lol at you if you think he would have revoked the scholarship of a 4*, in-state QB two months before signing day. That would have dealt a serious blow to his reputation with high school coaches in-state before he even started, especially at a time when Michigan State was experiencing a lot of success and taking some of the top in-state recruits.

But nah, that doesn’t jive with your totally fair and unbiased opinion of Harbaugh, so that can’t be the case.

 

[cidhawkeye]

I’m telling you that he honored the scholarship Brady Hoke offered and Malzone committed to. I don’t know if Harbaugh was interested in Malzone or not, but lol at you if you think he would have revoked the scholarship of a 4*, in-state QB two months before signing day. That would have dealt a serious blow to his reputation with high school coaches in-state before he even started, especially at a time when Michigan State was experiencing a lot of success and taking some of the top in-state recruits.

But nah, that doesn’t jive with your totally fair and unbiased opinion of Harbaugh, so that can’t be the case.

I have no bias against Jim, he went to school with my friends in Iowa City and they like him. He went above and beyond for one in San Fran. Currently his results at UM don't match your narrative. One of us has current facts, the other is you. It can change. As far as Ann Arbor goes the locker room talk is she is a wh*re.