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Mike Rowe's response after being accused of "Right Wing Propaganda"

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Hey Mike

Your constant harping on “work ethic” is growing tiresome. Just because someone’s poor doesn’t mean they’re lazy. The unemployed want to work! And many of those who can’t find work today, didn’t have the benefit of growing up with parents like yours. How can you expect someone with no role model to qualify for one of your scholarships or sign your silly “Sweat Pledge?” Rather than accusing people of not having a work-ethic, why not drop the right-wing propaganda and help them develop one?

Craig P.

Hi Craig, and Happy Sunday!

I’m afraid you’ve overestimated the reach of my foundation, as well as my ability to motivate people I’ve never met. For the record, I don’t believe all poor people are lazy, any more than I believe all rich people are greedy. But I can understand why so many do.

Everyday on the news, liberal pundits and politicians portray the wealthy as greedy, while conservative pundits and politicians portray the poor as lazy. Democrats have become so good at denouncing greed, Republicans now defend it. And Republicans are so good at condemning laziness, Democrats are now denying it even exists. It's a never ending dance that gets more contorted by the day.

A few weeks ago in Georgetown, President Obama accused Fox News of “perpetuating a false narrative” by consistently calling poor people “lazy.” Fox News denied the President’s accusation, claiming to have only criticized policies, not people. Unfortunately for Fox, The Daily Show has apparently gained access to the Internet, and after a ten-second google-search and a few minutes in the edit bay, John Stewart was on the air with a devastating montage of Fox personnel referring to the unemployed as “sponges,” “leeches,” “freeloaders,” and “mooches.”http://www.washingtonpost.com/…/daily-shows-jon-stewart-bu…/

Over the next few days, the echo chamber got very noisy. The Left howled about the bias at Fox and condemned the one-percent, while the Right shrieked about the bias at MSNBC and bemoaned the growing entitlement state. But through all the howling and shrieking, no one said a word about the millions of jobs that American companies are struggling to fill right now. No one talked the fact that most of those jobs don’t require an expensive four-year degree. And no one mentioned the 1.2 trillion dollars of outstanding student loans, or the madness of lending money we don’t have to kids who can’t pay it back, educating them for jobs that no longer exist.

I started mikeroweWORKS to talk about these issues, and shine a light on a few million good jobs that no one seems excited about. But mostly, I wanted to remind people that real opportunity still exists for those individuals who are willing to work hard, learn a skill, and make a persuasive case for themselves. Sadly, you see my efforts as “right wing propaganda.” But why? Are our differences really political? Or is it something deeper? Something philosophical?

You wrote that, “people want to work.” In my travels, I’ve met a lot of hard-working individuals, and I’ve been singing their praises for the last 12 years. But I’ve seen nothing that would lead me to agree with your generalization. From what I’ve seen of the species, and what I know of myself, most people - given the choice - would prefer NOT to work. In fact, on Dirty Jobs, I saw Help Wanted signs in every state, even at the height of the recession. Is it possible you see the existence of so many unfilled jobs as a challenge to your basic understanding of what makes people tick?

Last week at a policy conference in Mackinac, I talked to several hiring managers from a few of the largest companies in Michigan. They all told me the same thing - the biggest under reported challenge in finding good help, (aside from the inability to “piss clean,”) is an overwhelming lack of “soft skills.” That’s a polite way of saying that many applicants don’t tuck their shirts in, or pull their pants up, or look you in the eye, or say things like “please” and “thank you.” This is not a Michigan problem - this is a national crisis. We’re churning out a generation of poorly educated people with no skill, no ambition, no guidance, and no realistic expectations of what it means to go to work.

These are the people you’re talking about Craig, and their number grows everyday. I understand you would like me to help them, but how? I’m not a mentor, and my foundation doesn’t do interventions. Do you really want me to stop rewarding individual work ethic, just because I don’t have the resources to assist those who don’t have any? If I’m unable to help everyone, do you really want me to help no one?

My goals are modest, and they’ll remain that way. I don’t focus on groups. I focus on individuals who are eager to do whatever it takes to get started. People willing to retool, retrain, and relocate. That doesn’t mean I have no empathy for those less motivated. It just means I’m more inclined to subsidize the cost of training for those who are. That shouldn’t be a partisan position, but if it is, I guess I’ll just have to live with it.

Mike

PS. The Sweat Pledge wasn’t supposed to be partisan either, but it’s probably annoyed as many people as its inspired. I still sell them for $12, and the money still goes to mikeroweWORKS. You can get one here, even if you’re not applying for a scholarship.http://profoundlydisconnected.com/foundation/poster/

PPS. If you’d like Craig, I’ll autograph one for you!
 
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Mike Rowe, the host of "Dirty Jobs," wishes the concept of work ethic wasn't so partisan. Good luck with that.

Rowe was responding to a fan (?) letter on Sunday about his "constant harping" and "right wing propaganda" on work ethic when he made the case that it shouldn't be political. His "harping" includes promoting a scholarship fund for technical schools and the S.W.E.A.T. Pledge, which stands for "Skill And Work Ethic Aren't Taboo."

"Everyday on the news, liberal pundits and politicians portray the wealthy as greedy, while conservative pundits and politicians portray the poor as lazy," he wrote. "Democrats have become so good at denouncing greed, Republicans now defend it. And Republicans are so good at condemning laziness, Democrats are now denying it even exists. It's a never ending dance that gets more contorted by the day."

But as much as Rowe wishes otherwise, work ethic is political. Democrats are more likely to think people are either rich or poor because of circumstances out of their control, while Republicans are more likely to think it's because of how hard they work, according to a 2014 Pew poll.

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The ways Americans feel about things like taxes and income inequality also depend largely on their political affiliation. Pew found Democrats and Republicans have almost polar-opposite opinions on solutions to poverty.

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While Democrats overwhelmingly believe the poor need government aid to get a leg up, Republicans overwhelmingly believe such aide does more harm than good because it makes them too dependent on government -- something that could less-charitably be called "lazy."

And though Rowe might see his S.W.E.A.T. pledge as something everyone can agree on, it's not hard to see why people see it as conservative-leaning. Here are a few examples:

2. I believe that I am entitled to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Nothing more. I also understand that "happiness" and the "pursuit of happiness" are not the same thing.

...

5. I deplore debt, and do all I can to avoid it. I would rather live in a tent and eat beans than borrow money to pay for a lifestyle I can't afford.

...

11. I understand the world is not fair, and I'm OK with that. I do not resent the success of others.

There's a pull-yourself-up-by-your-bootstraps mentality in Rowe's pledge that mirrors the type of thing you hear Republicans say on the campaign trail, like quoting the Declaration of Independence, espousing the virtues of living within your (or your country's) means, and celebrating success rather than framing it as a us-vs.-them battle of income inequality.

So while Rowe might see his his work-ethic views as non-partisan, there's a fundamental difference in how people think about work and getting out of poverty which influences how people interpret what he says.

As much as he tries to explain his programs as something outside of a political continuum, that's likely to be lost on the many who view "worker harder" as code for "stop being lazy."



Hunter Schwarz covers the intersection of politics and pop culture for the Washington Post


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...be-a-conservative-vs-liberal-issue-but-it-is/
 
Mike Rowe seems like a nice, level headed guy. What he has to say makes a lot of sense. Unfortunately, both sides are often too dug into their positions to have a rational conversation, and more concerned about winning and making the other side look bad than they are about doing the right thing on the issues at hand.
 
Rowe seems to like being a victim. He has had a couple of cute shows. It generates publicity if he portrays himself as a victim of the media.
 
Mike Rowe seems like a nice, level headed guy. What he has to say makes a lot of sense. Unfortunately, both sides are often too dug into their positions to have a rational conversation, and more concerned about winning and making the other side look bad than they are about doing the right thing on the issues at hand.

Agreed, I don't know Rowe's politics, nor do I care to, but if one cannot take his comments in the article above on their face, then IMO they are the one that has the problem. His thoughts are spot on as far as I am concerned.
 
He has the right concept. If you only focus on and help those willing to work hard, you aren't punishing anyone else. All you have to do is show up and work hard and you are rewarded.

Too many people (most seem to be on the left) see that as some sort of swipe at all of the folks who want shit handed to them for simply breathing. It's Craig and those people who suck really bad. Not Rowe and hard working people trying to get ahead.

When I was in the classroom I'd give extra credit to those who never had a tardy to class the entire 9 weeks. Many of the tardy, shitty kids and their shitty parents would complain about this as if they were being punished...as if they were picked out and had points deducted from them. I can picture Craig as one of these parents.

According to them, everyone, regardless of how shitty or lazy, deserves a trophy. Sorry, Craig, you suck. Please move away from us.
 
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Mike Rowe seems like a nice, level headed guy. What he has to say makes a lot of sense. Unfortunately, both sides are often too dug into their positions to have a rational conversation, and more concerned about winning and making the other side look bad than they are about doing the right thing on the issues at hand.

Let's see what your next thread topic is than, shall we?
 
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