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Missouri vs. Iowa in Nashville

Mizzou is a very solid team and the talent disparity will be glaring, but thankfully not as obvious as it would have been against Alabama or Ole Miss. Last year’s bowl vs. Tennessee was boys against men.
 
Not sure what all this fear of Iowa getting blown out is about.

First of all, Iowa getting blown out is not at all a probable outcome.

And even if they do get blown out, why would it matter to fans? There are wins and there are losses.

Have no understanding at all why a blowout is even something crossing non-gambling fans' minds
Did you watch last years bowl game?
 
So, we draw Missouri. And the haters here cry about it being so weak and so boring a game. Yet, had Iowa been paired with a marquee program, the same haters would rail against Iowa's pending bowl disaster. Honestly, what is it that you guys want? When I read this forum, I'm disgusted most of the time. And the only peace I have is knowing that you hating shitbags are perpetually pissed off. Feck you. 100%
 
Well yes. I think last years bowl game against another SEC team (that was playing a heralded but very inexperienced QB) that couldn’t have been any uglier is still on some minds. Basically our only weapon on offense is not playing. We have no idea who will play QB. And Missouri will be the 2nd best team we’ve played this season. How’s that?
Because it's what happened every time we've played a team with a pulse over the past few years?

Lol.

Here's my prediction...

It'll be a low-scoring or more likely a non-scoring defensive faceoff for most of the first half. Mostly because our D is still pretty solid, and our offense is again pathetic. I honestly know nothing about Mizzou's D, but it really doesn't matter.

Late in the first half things will loosen up a little and our offense will finally take advantage of the short field provided by our D and ST.

We'll go into the half with the score around 7-3, with either team leading.

In the second half our O with its JV QB and no KJ will continue to sputter with continuous three-and-outs, and our D will start softening simply from being on the field non stop.

Mizzou will take advantage, establish a few long scoring drives which will wear our D down even more, and they'll create additional opportunities from turnovers or just the overall sh*ttiness of our offense.

The scoring gap widens, and in the end we lose by a score of something like 31-10.
Just because Iowa is playing an SEC team in a bowl game and got blown out by an SEC team in their last bowl game is no reason at all to expect another blowout.

Iowa has only been blown out once, at OSU, since the Tennessee game, and were 20 points dogs at the shoe.

The Tennessee game had an early line around 9. This is a 2.5 point line. It's not like the Tennessee game, for many reasons. One being, Deacon Hill is not at QB.

Vegas is aware of Iowa's RB and QB situation and they expect a close game.

And I wouldn't say that Mizzou is clearly the 2nd best team Iowa has played.

Gonzo, you know all that without knowing anything about Mizzou's D? That's pretty impressive.

I have a major issue with your categorization of which teams have a pulse or not. But that's another story. You've made it clear that you believe it's only the teams that have blown Iowa out. So we'll work from that.
OSU- 20 point underdog
Tennessee- early line got as high as 9
Michigan- 21 pt dog
PSU- 14 pt dog
OSU- 30 pt dog
Michigan- 9.5 pt dog in a 14-27 loss that some might consider a blowout, as Iowa backdoored some points in that game
Michigan- 11 pt dogs in the '21 championship game, although it doesn't make sense to analyze data from this game at all, as Michigan was playing with an illegal competitive advantage.

Blowouts in those games were a realistic expectation. Getting blown out as a 2.5 pt dog is not at all a probable expectation.

It's very hard to understand why people expect Iowa to get blown out. It's also hard to understand how that would be any different than losing in OT
 
I went to school at Mizzou. Loved it there. However..... Go Hawks.

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Iowa has played Missouri what….once in a bowl? Would have been twice in 2020. Doesn’t seem to qualify as drawing them often.

In the past 22 years USC at least 2x, LSU 2x, Florida 2x, Tennessee 2x, Missouri 2x (now 3), Kentucky 2x(back to back years)
 
Just because Iowa is playing an SEC team in a bowl game and got blown out by an SEC team in their last bowl game is no reason at all to expect another blowout.

Iowa has only been blown out once, at OSU, since the Tennessee game, and were 20 points dogs at the shoe.

The Tennessee game had an early line around 9. This is a 2.5 point line. It's not like the Tennessee game, for many reasons. One being, Deacon Hill is not at QB.

Vegas is aware of Iowa's RB and QB situation and they expect a close game.

And I wouldn't say that Mizzou is clearly the 2nd best team Iowa has played.

Gonzo, you know all that without knowing anything about Mizzou's D? That's pretty impressive.

I have a major issue with your categorization of which teams have a pulse or not. But that's another story. You've made it clear that you believe it's only the teams that have blown Iowa out. So we'll work from that.
OSU- 20 point underdog
Tennessee- early line got as high as 9
Michigan- 21 pt dog
PSU- 14 pt dog
OSU- 30 pt dog
Michigan- 9.5 pt dog in a 14-27 loss that some might consider a blowout, as Iowa backdoored some points in that game
Michigan- 11 pt dogs in the '21 championship game, although it doesn't make sense to analyze data from this game at all, as Michigan was playing with an illegal competitive advantage.

Blowouts in those games were a realistic expectation. Getting blown out as a 2.5 pt dog is not at all a probable expectation.

It's very hard to understand why people expect Iowa to get blown out. It's also hard to understand how that would be any different than losing in OT
Mizzou is a top 25 team. So I’d say yes they’re the 2nd best team on our schedule. We’re going to have to play our best game we’ve played all year to win.
 
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Because it's what happened every time we've played a team with a pulse over the past few years?

Lol.

Here's my prediction...

It'll be a low-scoring or more likely a non-scoring defensive faceoff for most of the first half. Mostly because our D is still pretty solid, and our offense is again pathetic. I honestly know nothing about Mizzou's D, but it really doesn't matter.

Late in the first half things will loosen up a little and our offense will finally take advantage of the short field provided by our D and ST.

We'll go into the half with the score around 7-3, with either team leading.

In the second half our O with its JV QB and no KJ will continue to sputter with continuous three-and-outs, and our D will start softening simply from being on the field non stop.

Mizzou will take advantage, establish a few long scoring drives which will wear our D down even more, and they'll create additional opportunities from turnovers or just the overall sh*ttiness of our offense.

The scoring gap widens, and in the end we lose by a score of something like 31-10.
There are 26 years of data under KF.

Iowa played most of last season with the worst QB I've seen take significant snaps in 40 years of closely following the Hawks.

The previous season Iowa played with the worst O-line I've seen in 40 years of closely following the Hawks.

Guess which 2 out of the 26 years fans want to act like is the norm for the Hawks. You literally can't make this shit up. 100% can only be the creation of football fan.

All the cute little fan narratives are completely secondary in those two years.

Very little about a program should even be considered in a year when a team is playing with an awful emergency QB or an awful emergency O-line. Then consider that KF is of very little blame in both of those situations. And really, the only thing of note from those two seasons is the fact that Iowa kept winning
 
be the only bowl game on December 30th, and they have 2:30 start time? WTF... are they intentionally trying to have lowest viewership possible

There are 26 years of data under KF.

Iowa played most of last season with the worst QB I've seen take significant snaps in 40 years of closely following the Hawks.

The previous season Iowa played with the worst O-line I've seen in 40 years of closely following the Hawks.

Guess which 2 out of the 26 years fans want to act like is the norm for the Hawks. You literally can't make this shit up. 100% can only be the creation of football fan.

All the cute little fan narratives are completely secondary in those two years.

Very little about a program should even be considered in a year when a team is playing with an awful emergency QB or an awful emergency O-line. Then consider that KF is of very little blame in both of those situations. And really, the only thing of note from those two seasons is the fact that Iowa kept winning
You cant change 2 years of worst P 5 O and a qb that doesnt belong at any level. You cant make that up. Put an * on your post.

And Oh Ya, before that the worst P 5 punter.
 
Tell me what the -2.5 means and why it is there right now.

Get back to me as that negative number moves further in Mizzou's favor as we get closer to the game.
Not really sure what you're trying to say.

2.5 in no way suggests a blowout. Nor will the closing line.

The point remains that it's laughable for so many to expect Iowa to get blown out
 
You cant change 2 years of worst P 5 O and a qb that doesnt belong at any level. You cant make that up. Put an * on your post.

And Oh Ya, before that the worst P 5 punter.
Sure you can change it. Iowa no longer has the worst offense. No reason for fans to act like they do.

And again, no reason for fans to have thought it was the norm in the first place.

It's called an emergency QB. None of them are very good. Give KF credit for having had the foresight to have brought another body into the QB room.

Worst punter??????
 
Sure you can change it. Iowa no longer has the worst offense. No reason for fans to act like they do.

And again, no reason for fans to have thought it was the norm in the first place.

It's called an emergency QB. None of them are very good. Give KF credit for having had the foresight to have brought another body into the QB room.

Worst punter??????
The kid related to a big donor. And he wouldnt have without Beth.

The O was still a joke save johnson running off guard being superman thru 5 defenders.
 
Because it's what happened every time we've played a team with a pulse over the past few years?

Lol.

Here's my prediction...

It'll be a low-scoring or more likely a non-scoring defensive faceoff for most of the first half. Mostly because our D is still pretty solid, and our offense is again pathetic. I honestly know nothing about Mizzou's D, but it really doesn't matter.

Late in the first half things will loosen up a little and our offense will finally take advantage of the short field provided by our D and ST.

We'll go into the half with the score around 7-3, with either team leading.

In the second half our O with its JV QB and no KJ will continue to sputter with continuous three-and-outs, and our D will start softening simply from being on the field non stop.

Mizzou will take advantage, establish a few long scoring drives which will wear our D down even more, and they'll create additional opportunities from turnovers or just the overall sh*ttiness of our offense.

The scoring gap widens, and in the end we lose by a score of something like 31-10.
Sounds like you should bet the farm on Missouri. 😉
 
You didn't even understand that wheel routes aren't run against zone.😂🤣

You contribute nothing to the board
You definitely can use wheel routes Vs zone ha. Post wheel concept is a pain Vs both Cover 3 and Quarters. This is coming from someone who’s coached 4-2-5 (ton of quarters) and 3-5-3 (ton of cover 3) along with current OC role. (Not the high school in my profile)
 
So, we draw Missouri. And the haters here cry about it being so weak and so boring a game. Yet, had Iowa been paired with a marquee program, the same haters would rail against Iowa's pending bowl disaster. Honestly, what is it that you guys want? When I read this forum, I'm disgusted most of the time. And the only peace I have is knowing that you hating shitbags are perpetually pissed off. Feck you. 100%
in all fairness half the naysayers are closet isu and nebraska fans.
 
You definitely can use wheel routes Vs zone ha. Post wheel concept is a pain Vs both Cover 3 and Quarters. This is coming from someone who’s coached 4-2-5 (ton of quarters) and 3-5-3 (ton of cover 3) along with current OC role. (Not the high school in my profile)
Never argue with idiots. The drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
 
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It's official. And Michigan draws Alabama. That could be interesting. But not an interesting matchup for the Hawkeyes.
Would disagree. I think playing Mizzou is a great draw for us, an opportunity to finish the season with a win over a ranked team. That would be a great experience and a good springboard into 2025. We have a lot of talented young players and a win would be a great confidence boost for them.
 
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To bitch and moan. They don't like this team or the coaches but do like to come here and criticize them.

It a fun destination for those interested in going.

Sadly, it's a tall mountain for the Hawks. Only a 3 loss team (Bama, A&M, So Carolina) and plenty of solid W's.

Still, I'm pretty happy with the draw.
I like the Hawkeye’s chances.
 
Not really sure what you're trying to say.

2.5 in no way suggests a blowout. Nor will the closing line.

The point remains that it's laughable for so many to expect Iowa to get blown out
I'm asking you to explain what a betting line is, why it exists, and how it has anything to do with Iowa getting blown out or not.
 
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You definitely can use wheel routes Vs zone ha. Post wheel concept is a pain Vs both Cover 3 and Quarters. This is coming from someone who’s coached 4-2-5 (ton of quarters) and 3-5-3 (ton of cover 3) along with current OC role. (Not the high school in my profile)
Yeah. I was just giving him a hard time about a thread he was having trouble following a couple months ago regarding the traditional wheel route that ISU ran vs Iowa's man coverage at the end of that game
 
In the past 22 years USC at least 2x, LSU 2x, Florida 2x, Tennessee 2x, Missouri 2x (now 3), Kentucky 2x(back to back years)
So….2 times in 22 years. Like I said….doesn’t qualify as “often”. Occasional maybe.
 
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