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Moms for Liberty on mental health

I almost started a thread on Biden's plan, because it's ground breaking. Another win for America. It isn't a surprising that MFL would immediately come out against it. It's an anti-vaccine, Q riddled cult.
 
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Mental health care is health care Mr. President.

That’s why it has NO place in public schools.



WTF does that even mean? Are they seriously saying there's no need for health care of any kind in public schools?
I wondered the same thing.

Our school nurse is about four months from retirement. Maybe the position should just be eliminated.

F#ck the kids and their health. #Christianvalues
 
Mental health care is health care Mr. President.

That’s why it has NO place in public schools.



WTF does that even mean? Are they seriously saying there's no need for health care of any kind in public schools?
There is no health care of any significance done in school -- for that they refer you to actual doctors.

Same with mental health, I'd assume.
 
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So, your school doesn’t have kids suffer from a mental health crisis? They dont have “a bad day”? Thgey dont have home issues (abuse, hunger, chronic illness)?
We're not talking about that. We're talking about the actual care itself. That's done by a professional.
 
There is no health care of any significance done in school -- for that they refer you to actual doctors.

Same with mental health, I'd assume.
There’s an AED in my kid’s school and the office staff is trained on it along with CPR. As are most of the teachers.

They’re also trained for epipens, seizures, and diabetic emergencies.
 
There is no health care of any significance done in school -- for that they refer you to actual doctors.

Same with mental health, I'd assume.
Man, I don’t know. Both Gov. Scott and Gov. DeSantis have spent a lot of money on mental health in schools. Some by hiring psychologists or adding teams to deal with crisis and telehealth (especially in areas hit by hurricanes). M4L appears to not agree with the two. Oh, a good portion of that money was federal during both the Trump and Biden administrations.
 
There’s an AED in my kid’s school and the office staff is trained on it along with CPR. As are most of the teachers.

They’re also trained for epipens, seizures, and diabetic emergencies.
All mandates by Republican legislators in Florida.
 
Man, I don’t know. Both Gov. Scott and Gov. DeSantis have spent a lot of money on mental health in schools. Some by hiring psychologists or adding teams to deal with crisis and telehealth (especially in areas hit by hurricanes). M4L appears to not agree with the two. Oh, a good portion of that money was federal during both the Trump and Biden administrations.
If you have trained professionals, that's another matter. I thought the point was not to have teachers or the like playing the role.

Not that it's completely clear what the hell they're actually talking about...

I'm sure it goes back to the schools offering up some form of mental health care that parents are notified about, or that it's done by someone they don't approve of, or that it's an approach they don't condone. (or some combo thereof)
 
We're not talking about that. We're talking about the actual care itself. That's done by a professional.
You do understand that PROFESSIONAL mental health care is in high demand…and more so foe adolescent mental health care? It’s a real issue. We have kids in Iowa travel 200 miles one way for age appropriate mental health care. We have Iowa kids being hospitalized in Florida and Arizona because that is the NEAREST in-patient bed for adolescents….We had a kid from Texas where I worked for over a year as an in-patient because out hospital was the nearest hospital offering the psychiatric care he needed….and he was a MedicAid patient…..
MH Care for kids is an emergent situation damn near everywhere……and it has been that way for DECADES.
 
You do understand that PROFESSIONAL mental health care is in high demand…and more so foe adolescent mental health care? It’s a real issue. We have kids in Iowa travel 200 miles one way for age appropriate mental health care. We have Iowa kids being hospitalized in Florida and Arizona because that is the NEAREST in-patient bed for adolescents….We had a kid from Texas where I worked for over a year as an in-patient because out hospital was the nearest hospital offering the psychiatric care he needed….and he was a MedicAid patient…..
MH Care for kids is an emergent situation damn near everywhere……and it has been that way for DECADES.
... yeah, it is in demand. I never disagreed with that sentiment.
 
Mental health care is health care Mr. President.

That’s why it has NO place in public schools.



WTF does that even mean? Are they seriously saying there's no need for health care of any kind in public schools?
That’s where I’m at. I’d love for someone to expound on this because, as stated, it makes zero sense.
 
Ohhhh. So nurses aren’t healthcare professionals? Lololol. You are completely totally and absolutely ignorant of how healthcare works.

He’s a Q-MAGA. That makes him an immediate expert on the hot button topic of the day. A few weeks ago it was submarine components and construction. Today it is mental health care in schools. We would be lost as a society if not for these brilliants walking among us.
 
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It’s bananas that our teachers are training on the best way to secure a bathroom from a school shooter, but we wouldn’t trust them with talk to kids about how they’re doing.
Yeah because if the teachers are talking to the kids about how they're doing, then it gives them a chance to groom them or turn them into a transgender person. C'mon man, this is all pretty easy stuff.
 
Ohhhh. So nurses aren’t healthcare professionals? Lololol. You are completely totally and absolutely ignorant of how healthcare works.
Of course they count.

My assertion, my reading of what they were stating in that tweet, is that the function of a school isn't healthcare -- you go to a doctor for that. You have nurses for minor stuff and emergency services like using the defib, but that's just ancillary help. A school offers incredibly limited services.

You're not relying on the school to for your child's healthcare. Just like you wouldn't with mental healthcare.

I'm guessing they were complaining about schools intervening in a way they wish they wouldn't where mental health care was considered.

I mean, imagine your kid comes home from school with insulin, a weight loss plan, and a diabetes diagnosis. And they tell you they got their fist shot that day. That would be a violation of your expectations of service a school ought to be providing. You weren't in on it, they decided a bunch of stuff and didn't tell you, and they acted on it.

What you might expect is that a school nurse would tell you about issues your kid has been having; or take care of a scraped knee or this or that. Or that the school counselor might fill you in on what he's noticed with your kid. You don't expect these people to be making important decisions for you.

Make sense?
 
Dispersing of medication
Counseling
Some parts of sex ed
Dietitians for school meals
Vaccines
Physical education
Lice, pink eye, chicken pox and common communicable diseases/ailments in schools
Drug and alcohol education.....

To me, these all involve healthcare in schools
Well, you know the moms aren’t about those scary needles.
 
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Yeah because if the teachers are talking to the kids about how they're doing, then it gives them a chance to groom them or turn them into a transgender person. C'mon man, this is all pretty easy stuff.
I'm sure they're concerned about them affirming what is a social contagion for your kid.

That's a legit worry.
 
I'm sure they're concerned about them affirming what is a social contagion for your kid.

That's a legit worry.
I'll quote it again for @TC Nole OX

Lots of kids are not at all trans or this or that -- even if claiming to be. It's a social thing and lots of schools require teachers to go along with it.

Now, we could debate the meaningfulness of this. And if it's just a phase, and kids pops out of it, fine.

If it (helps) lead them down a path that ends with hormones or surgery, needlessly, then it's a real problem.

I'd have that concern as a parent, and I think there is real concern to be had.
 
He’s a Q-MAGA. That makes him an immediate expert on the hot button topic of the day. A few weeks ago it was submarine components and construction. Today it is mental health care in schools. We would be lost as a society if not for these brilliants walking among us.
And remember, #45 is always the smartest man in the room.
 
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I don't think it's teachers indoctrinating kids... I think it's mostly teachers affirming what probably shouldn't be affirmed. That's all. And it's institutional breakdown at a number of levels, quite possibly, with this. Mental healthcare and healthcare included.

We're probably going to be able to look back in a decade or so and see it much more clearly. Social contagion, we were so concerned about not appearing bigoted that we provided poor quality guidance and healthcare, leading kids down the wrong path. The left will have egg all over their face on this. Not a good look.

That's what I think is probably coming. Or, at the very least, is real a threat to happen given what we do and do not know about the situation at this point in time.

Hence you see nations like Sweden and Norway and England etc tapping their brakes on the this sort of affirming care. (America will be slower to do so because tribal politics is so deeply embedded in all aspects of society and institution at this point -- you're a nice example)
 
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There is no health care of any significance done in school -- for that they refer you to actual doctors.

Same with mental health, I'd assume.
You mean like dealing with a seizure? Or a broken arm? How about a dog bite? Anaphylaxis? Heat exhaustion? I’ve seen or dealt with every one of those and more. You really don’t just tell the kids to suck it up until the ambulance gets there.
 
Most elementary schools in the Des Moines metro have a therapist that sees kids at the school. They are always full with a long waiting list.
It would seem to me if we think most school shooters have mental health issues than spending a few extra dollars on student mental health might be money well spent.

probably a better idea than arming teachers.
 
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