Dribble handoff: Predicting college basketball's breakout stars for the 2021-22 season
We are expecting these players to make major leaps in the 2021-22 college basketball season
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We are expecting these players to make major leaps in the 2021-22 college basketball season
Keegan can really ball.
His instincts and body control are off the charts. He can guard 1-5. And I really think he'll prove to be a good shooter. He will shoot at the very least 36% from 3 this season. Book it. And that number would be higher, but he's going to have to force some volume as a go-to scorer when the team is struggling in half-court O, and in late-clock scenarios.
Would love to see Keegan stay two more seasons
His instincts and body control are off the charts. He can guard 1-5. And I really think he'll prove to be a good shooter. He will shoot at the very least 36% from 3 this season. Book it. And that number would be higher, but he's going to have to force some volume as a go-to scorer when the team is struggling in half-court O, and in late-clock scenarios.
Would love to see Keegan stay two more seasons
I'm quietly hoping he lives up to the expectations, but I'm guessing he won't. Not that he won't have a great year, but many I talk to are expecting numbers in the 16/10 range which I think is an awful lot for a Soph. Seems folks forget those are Reggie Evans type numbers, and not easily replicated.
I love your response. Keep doubting my boy. I have never seen him play this well and have this much confidence!! He has taken such a big leap in his mental preparation and team leadership. People doubted that he could be a high major player. People doubted that he could contribute as a freshman. I am just saying...
so you're saying we should keep doubting him
that seems to be working out pretty well for all involved. Best of luck to you, your family and the Hawks this year.
Hi Kenyon,
Huge fan of yours when you played and even more impressed on how you handle this situation as a father. Since defense was something that you were known for as a player, I am curious how you think this team will improve defensively? I think with Keegan, Joe T, perhaps Perkins, Uhlis, and Kris, this is a core that may be able to put pressure on the ball. Also Patrick with his length could be a good defender also. What are your expectations for this team on that end of the floor. Appreciate your insight.
10 is unrealistic, but I don’t think anyone is expecting that. Anything above 7 is fabulous. 16 is very doable. Indeed, I think that’s on the low end for a leading scorer in the Fran era.
10 rebounds a game is pretty rare. I'm not great at looking up stats, but Luka never averaged 10, same for Brunner. I looked up those guys because they are number one and two on the all time list, then I got board. I assume Reggie is the last Hawkeye to average a double-double.
Agree. I'd be shocked if he averaged under 15, so 15-20 is very reasonable especially since he can score at all 3 levels, and will get points in transition, from offensive rebounds, and at the FT line.
Keegan averaged 11.4 rebounds per 40 minutes last year, so if he gets 30 minutes that would be 7.5 to 8 reb/game. On one hand it's harder to maintain that ratio over more minutes per game, but I'm assuming he's also become stronger and more mature to offset that. Plus, all of Garza and Wieskamp's rebounds are there for the taking.
Put me down for 18/8
I think Kris is capable of 10/5 in 20 mpg, but seems very unselfish so perhaps 8/4 or 9/5 range with a lot of hustle stats. He can let the game come to him and fit in with the game flow, whereas Keegan may have to push the issue a bit more for us to be successful.
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I like his talent, my only question is his age. He should be a senior this year so probably does not have as much growth left in him as you would otherwise expect from someone coming off their freshman season. He has a good diverse skill set, though, that should let him perform fairly well this season.
Don't get me wrong, lots of kids get held back for athletic purposes, but it does influence the odds of their improvement in college.
Don't get me wrong, lots of kids get held back for athletic purposes, but it does influence the odds of their improvement in college.
He won't turn 22 until next year late summer of his junior year. Still time for lots of filling out, and he's grown about 2-3 inches since high school.
I'm talking about skill development. The pace of gains players make slows as they age. 18 year olds generally make bigger/faster leaps in skill than 22 year olds.
All things being equal, being younger is better for trying to project development.
I guess we'll see about that in Keegan's case. But I am not the only one who thinks that he is going to show a lot of improvement this year.
Kind of belies that fact that we've all seen kids improve dramatically from their freshman to senior years. Maybe Michigan only gets finished players, which would account for their annual success.
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What math are you using that he should be a senior? Even if he hadn't gone to prep school and come straight to Iowa he'd just be entering his junior year......
I think your right that skill development at a young age is important, but you’re ignoring that Keegan didn’t stop growing until prep school.
He’s trained his entire life as a guard. I remember him using the euro step last year. There’s also that one clip from the Wisconsin game where he showed his guard skills.
I just think people are overthinking Murray. Sometimes late bloomers from outside the big population centers (Chicago, NY, etc.) fall through the cracks.
kids that are 5 in August go to Kindergarten, so on and so forth. He turned 21 in August therefore he was held back a year before prep school because he is now 2 academic years behind where you would expect. I am not knocking him as a person or player, but age is an extremely relevant part of projecting growth as a player. That's why the NBA hates drafting seniors as opposed to a much younger prospect.
I'm not exactly a hater. I may have been the first person to suggest here he was going to go pro and might be a first round pick after his sophomore season last January.
Keegan draft hype from January
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I really hate it when MI fans come to an Iowa site and they don't even know what their own goddamn state requires.
Get your facts straight then come back. Or don't. We won't miss you.
actually that agrees with my point. Kids improve a lot from age 18-21. They improve less from age 20-23.
Obviously you want everyone to get better, but the biggest thing with Keegan isn't improvement as much as it is his role changing.
Last year he was incredibly efficient, this year he will need to be able to thrive as a focal point. I'm optimistic that it won't be a problem, guy just seems next level composed.
Last year he was incredibly efficient, this year he will need to be able to thrive as a focal point. I'm optimistic that it won't be a problem, guy just seems next level composed.
Eli Brooks - 23, might as well retire now, he's washed up🤣
Hunter Dickenson will be 21 this month. He was born the same year as Keegan, just a few months later. Is he done improving?
Just 2 examples from MI that prove MY point.
Players also improve throughout their NBA or professional career. Michigan sucks.
I expect relatively little improvement from Brooks or Dickinson this season so you are agreeing with me.
You don’t seem to have an actual point. I love Keegan’s game and was the first person to point out his draft stock on this forum. I just don’t think he will improve much over last season. He needs to make incremental improvements.
He shot 29% from 3 last year and you don’t think there’s much room for improvement? If he brings that up to 35% at any point in his career, it will completely change the complexion of how teams guard him and what will open up for him offensively
I did not say there is no room for improvement. Also, making 6 extra 3s per 100 attempts is not exactly massive improvement.
it is simply an accepted fact that the younger a player is the higher their chances of making large improvements.
I love Murray’s game. His biggest change this year will be dealing with opponents scheming to take him away instead of being an afterthought last season. Iowa needs his usage rate to skyrocket. Hopefully he can maintain efficiency.
Keegan started out hot from three and tailed off at the end of the year. The most likely explanation is simply the proverbial freshmen wall. Feeling more pressure and fatigued simultaneously, etc... Keegan's shooting motion and flow is very naturally athletic looking and the shot form alone is top notch.
I'm guessing its closer to .400 this year. Thinking more like 17-18 ppg and 6.5-7.5 rpg. Keegan will play a lot of minutes away from the basket on both ends of the court. Putting that in context, Aaron White never averaged more than 7.3 rpg in his career.
I'm guessing its closer to .400 this year. Thinking more like 17-18 ppg and 6.5-7.5 rpg. Keegan will play a lot of minutes away from the basket on both ends of the court. Putting that in context, Aaron White never averaged more than 7.3 rpg in his career.
That’s a misquote because I didn’t say that you said he had no room for improvement. I said that you said he didn’t have much room for improvement, which is what you said. Making six extra threes per 100 could be the difference between defenders sagging off of him and playing him tight, which will open up dribble drive
