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Most Men are Single and have few Friends.

I doubt this describes 60% of young men but I do know that unmotivated, lazy, underemployed, and undereducated men aren't exactly offering a whole lot that's going to get a women to want to engage in a long term relationship with that person. Also, men who still live at home having their mom make them meals and do their laundry aren't exactly advertising themselves very well either. Women want to be mother to their kids, not their boyfriend/husband.
 
I doubt this describes 60% of young men but I do know that unmotivated, lazy, underemployed, and undereducated men aren't exactly offering a whole lot that's going to get a women to want to engage in a long term relationship with that person. Also, men who still live at home having their mom make them meals and do their laundry aren't exactly advertising themselves very well either. Women want to be mother to their kids, not their boyfriend/husband.
Holy cow, you went all out on this stereotyping
 
Women are tiring of their stereotypical role as full-time therapist for emotionally distant men. They want a partner who is emotionally open and empathetic, the opposite of the age-old masculine ideal.
Yeah, that's not going to happen. Women (and men) need to realize they can't count on their partner for everything.
 
How's that work?
geriatric hroters are picking up all the decent ones leaving young dudes to
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I doubt this describes 60% of young men but I do know that unmotivated, lazy, underemployed, and undereducated men aren't exactly offering a whole lot that's going to get a women to want to engage in a long term relationship with that person. Also, men who still live at home having their mom make them meals and do their laundry aren't exactly advertising themselves very well either. Women want to be mother to their kids, not their boyfriend/husband.
Women want to be mother their kids? I agreed with you until then.
Holy cow, you went all out on this stereotyping
He’s being radically candid. Stop in any rural town in Iowa and you’ll groups of these type of men. Women want men who are emotionally intelligent, educated, and financially stable.
 
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I am an old guy now, 56, been divorced for a decade now. I tried dating for years. Last year I met someone I really liked and we seemed a good match. She just could not go further into it. At that point, I retired. I know I am part of the problem. I am a lot happier fapping now and then and being on my own than just abusing my self esteem over and over again
 
when we can stream any show at leisure few choose to go to the movies. maybe tinder killed off relationships.
I’d say that’s definitely true in the high school/college demographic.

On a semi-related note, I would imagine the sexual expectations of girls by a generation of boys on phone porn are insane.
 
I doubt this describes 60% of young men but I do know that unmotivated, lazy, underemployed, and undereducated men aren't exactly offering a whole lot that's going to get a women to want to engage in a long term relationship with that person. Also, men who still live at home having their mom make them meals and do their laundry aren't exactly advertising themselves very well either. Women want to be mother to their kids, not their boyfriend/husband.
And then a guy gets married and hears “get off me, you are heavy.” Or “Are you through yet? One of us should be enjoying this.” Or the famous, “When you are inside me, I feel nothing.” Can’t win!
 
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60% of young men are single. Wow.

Combine this with the teenage girl thing.

We are a hot mess. Not sure how to get out of this.

Ban Social Media?

Brave New World
Is it possible that as a society we think everything is sexual harassment? Kinda hard to get a girlfriend when you are afraid to make a move because you are afraid of being accused of sexual harassment.

We have a victim mentality in this country and the me too movement scared the crap out of boys.
 
Lot of stuff there. Some thoughts

- Traditional modes of socialization for men were probably altered. How much of this has to do with the rise of tech isn't clear. May be true that women are more resilient to change. (also have a higher need for friendship)

- Online dating as a mode of meeting people plays into this problem. Women are pickier than men. (some of this of course is due to men being more interested in sex) A minority of men get a ton of attention whereas a whole bunch of men get none. Nobody likes this setup and it results in more people alone.

- Women still want men to initialize encounters -- even on the dating apps -- and men are probably worse at this than ever.

- Hookup culture. It used to be men didn't stand much of a chance at getting any unless they had their act together and were serious relationship material. Not so much anymore. If you have looks or money -- then tinder can work for you. Some women like hooking up. Those guys are always in the minority, though. The rest of the guys have to play a different game, as we're finding out. Most women don't like hooking up, either.

Hookup culture is at odds with the way most women actually think. And a lot of men are clueless and seem to think they can just hook-up. We used to play a common game, where men had to do X to get the pussy, and where most people paired off. (That also limited endless window shopping by women)

We now no longer have a shared expectation around what courtship should be, what men have to do, and what women want. Add to that... the rise of the internet age and the atrophying of our social fabric and you have this mess.
 
Stereotypes exist for a reason and if you don't think there are large numbers of dudes out there like this then I don't know what to tell you. Also, note, I made a point of saying it doesn't explain everything.
I’m sure there’s a lot of men out there like you’ve described.

I’m sure there’s a good chunk of worthless women out there also.

They should eat Cheetos together
 
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Is it possible that as a society we think everything is sexual harassment? Kinda hard to get a girlfriend when you are afraid to make a move because you are afraid of being accused of sexual harassment.

We have a victim mentality in this country and the me too movement scared the crap out of Friday.

You ever try talking to a woman before bopping her on the head with a club and dragging her by the hair?
 
Is it possible that as a society we think everything is sexual harassment? Kinda hard to get a girlfriend when you are afraid to make a move because you are afraid of being accused of sexual harassment.

We have a victim mentality in this country and the me too movement scared the crap out of boys.
So you're saying it's not men's fault, which makes them the


Victim?
 
You ever try talking to a woman before bopping her on the head with a club and dragging her by the hair?
I'm sure you're trying to be funny, but I'm serious. This does not detract from real sexual assault, but there are videos of girls going to the gym accusing guys of staring. It's a serious problem.

 
30% of guys are banging 50% of the chicks. The remaining guys and girls are fat, ugly, or creepy.
when anything gets internetized maybe this happens. products — amazon wins coz best price/delivery. youtube — whoever’s most talented gets most of the clicks, rest get nothing. appstore — same, 2nd best is worthless.
 
I'm sure you're trying to be funny, but I'm serious. This does not detract from real sexual assault, but there are videos of girls going to the gym accusing guys of staring. It's a serious problem.

Women enjoy talking about and complaining about their problems about 10x more than men.

That's not to say there aren't things worth talking about... but they're much more likely to go into the minutia on things than men are. And at some point it becomes rather tedious airing of grievances where the opposite sex is concerned.

(long story short... men could be complaining plenty too but aren't as interested in doing so)
 
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I’ve been married 25+ years so no idea what it’s like now, but my wife’s single friends are nearly all basket cases. There’s usually a reason (or three) they are single at 50.
We’ve been married for 22 years, and a good female friend (no pic) of ours got divorced a few years back. She’s a Iowa 8/10, and fun to be with, we bring her tailgating at Kinnick, though she cannot hang long. Her stories about dating apps and trying to find a guy over the last few years are crazy and depressing. She’s still single and I can’t believe the guys she goes out with now. we need a OT dating app.
 
I'm sure you're trying to be funny, but I'm serious. This does not detract from real sexual assault, but there are videos of girls going to the gym accusing guys of staring. It's a serious problem.


Fine, if you require serious.

No, we as a society do not think everything is sexual harassment.
 
We’ve been married for 22 years, and a good female friend (no pic) of ours got divorced a few years back. She’s an Iowa 8/10, and fun to be with, we bring her tailgating at Kinnick, though she cannot hang long. Her stories about dating apps and trying to find a guy over the last few years are crazy and depressing. She’s still single and I can’t believe the guys she goes out with now. we need a OT dating app.
That’s too bad. My comment likely applies for most men as well, but I know very few single guys my age.
 
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We’ve been married for 22 years, and a good female friend (no pic) of ours got divorced a few years back. She’s a Iowa 8/10, and fun to be with, we bring her tailgating at Kinnick, though she cannot hang long. Her stories about dating apps and trying to find a guy over the last few years are crazy and depressing. She’s still single and I can’t believe the guys she goes out with now. we need a OT dating app.

Does anyone follow the god damn rules around here anymore?
 
I’ve been married 25+ years so no idea what it’s like now, but my wife’s single friends are nearly all basket cases. There’s usually a reason (or three) they are single at 50.
As a 51 year old single male, 3 1/2 years removed from a 9 year marriage, I can attest to the level of crazy women found around my age. Online dating is a horror show. 😳

I assumed it would get easier with age...I was so wrong. 😅 Probably because as we all get older, there's less crap we'll put up with.
 
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