You’re right. That doesn’t describe most young men. There are a lot of young women who fit your description.
Women these days don’t exactly have a lot to offer young men either and plays into a portion of that 60%.
Most Men are Single and have few Friends.
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You’re right. That doesn’t describe most young men. There are a lot of young women who fit your description.
Women these days don’t exactly have a lot to offer young men either and plays into a portion of that 60%.
I guess that depends on where you are looking. The local dive bar probably caters to a very different demographic of women.
Are we talking about all age groups now?
I think a lot of people of both sexes if they are single in their 50's admit "It isn't happening for me" and quit trying to date. I feel like I am not unique in that way in my demographic. Some occasional sex isnt worth the rest of the heavy lifting. There is just no ROI in it.
I think a lot of people of both sexes if they are single in their 50's admit "It isn't happening for me" and quit trying to date. I feel like I am not unique in that way in my demographic. Some occasional sex isnt worth the rest of the heavy lifting. There is just no ROI in it.
It is a combination of your reply and its consistency with the article.
“Heterosexual women are getting more choosy. Women “don’t want to marry down,” to form a long-term relationship to a man with less education and earnings than herself, said Ronald Levant, professor emeritus of psychology at the University of Akron and author of several books on masculinity. “
Women either have to let go of the notion that men who make less money than them are undesirable, or give up the notion of equality in the workplace. Because the two demands are mutually exclusive.
Given that equality in the workplace is a legal right, I would suggest they change their attitudes about what makes a desirable mate. Emotionally stunted is rightfully a disqualifier. Low income perhaps should not be.
Wait, so men not being desirable to women is the women's problem and they need to fix it? Blaming women for their problems. Pretty sure that's pretty much most of the issue already.
Do you hire pros every now and then? Just to get some new fapping material and experiences w/ 10's? Always thought if wife ever died or divorced would probably hang it up and just pay high end talent when felt like it instead of trying to start all over.
I think part of the issue is expectations.
Historically- what do men want from women? Homemaker, moms, etc.
I couldn’t even begin to guess what women want from men nowadays- but I don’t think the interests align?
No. I can't get past the human trafficking thing.
I did give brief consideration to trying a Sugar Baby thing now that my kids are older and I have a lot more income, but just too many entanglements.
Not really a problem. Just reality. There won't be enough college educated men for them.
I think if you could close off the internet on the even days of the month, a ton of our society’s problems would go away.
Imagine it? No emails, no pornhub, no tweeting and Facebook and Instagram posting. No ticktock and YouTube and online shopping. No online video game playing with others. No 420 emails from your 69 bosses asking for crap.
We would all have to do stuff and deal with people face to face 50 percent of the time.
Imagine it? No emails, no pornhub, no tweeting and Facebook and Instagram posting. No ticktock and YouTube and online shopping. No online video game playing with others. No 420 emails from your 69 bosses asking for crap.
We would all have to do stuff and deal with people face to face 50 percent of the time.
Well, that's not a problem for women to fix. Men have to ask themselves, why are you become worthless sacks of shit that can't even get a degree?
That said, women like men who do trades just fine, in fact, many like them more, unless that man still needs to be mothered. They usually don't though because are busy busting their asses all day for their job. They may not cook, or do laundry either, but they do other things around the house. Like clean up after themselves, fix, repair, and build stuff. You just can't do nothing.
That would require these mostly right wing white men, who are doing the bulk of the crying over this, to accept responsibility. This is simply something they don’t and won’t do. With them, it is always someone else’s fault.
Is that what I said? I said what I meant - there are mutually exclusive desires, so one has to be dropped. There is no reason for a woman to consider a man “broken” just because he makes less money than her.
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Not sure why you are laughing. I am trying to understand where you are coming from.
Maybe, but the reality is, at least according to this article, is that they are and if that's the case men can't control what appeals to women. Either adapt to the circumstances that exist or be left out in the cold. Crying about what women want isn't going to change anything.
This is clearly a discussion that needs to continue forward in a nuanced and polite manner. I have already written down my notes for the 2 girls and 2 boys in the house. Not sure when I will have that discussion.
Dads or stepdads, or uncles or volunteers need to step up to the plate. Girls/young women need to stop insulting their boyfriends or other boys and vice versa. They might laugh it off, but it hurts within.
There is no one answer. But if we don't try as adults to help fix this, then damn us.
Dads or stepdads, or uncles or volunteers need to step up to the plate. Girls/young women need to stop insulting their boyfriends or other boys and vice versa. They might laugh it off, but it hurts within.
There is no one answer. But if we don't try as adults to help fix this, then damn us.
You wouldn't have been able to stand on your soapbox until today. 🤣
I would disagree with this. I've done all sorts of things around the house which are major projects but get little credit. We bought a hot tub over the pandemic. My wife and I use it together as our "us time" at least 2-3 times per week. It's a Sunday AM ritual to sit in it with a cup of coffee, relax, and plan the week ahead. That thing needs a 4 hour overhaul every three months. Last time I did it, I had to hear how she did the laundry, went grocery shopping, etc all day on Saturday while I was outside cleaning that damn thing while wet in 50 degree weather.
I personally think it's the grind that gets to ladies. The perception is the day to day stuff seems unending. Then there is also the aspect of they can't let stuff go. Wife told me she needed more help around the house. I told her she never had to do laundry again. We do most of the wash on the weekend. What happened:
1. She stated the clothes weren't getting clean because the loads were too big. She runs loads about 1/4-1/3 of the washers capacity. If it's an overfull dishwasher, I agree stuff doesn't get clean, but the clothes were fine.
2. I was washing clothes too close together so the drying rack was getting overloaded. The drying rack only has a certain capacity. That wasn't an issue because I just hung stuff on hangers to dry.
3. It wasn't being done on her schedule. She would throw in loads when I wasn't home. I told her I was taking care of laundry and it would be done by Sunday night. She said it was a team effort. I told her no, we decided it wasn't. She said at this pace I wasn't going to get it done. It was done in time, just like I promised it would be.
Sometimes they just can't let go of control. Getting stuff done is all about efficiency.
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It’s not crying to point out mutually-exclusive desires. Men can’t “fix” math.
I fall in the middle somewhere. I do my part about staying in shape for the most part. But yeah, I know that at this age overall I am fighting an uphill battle.
It does, but the same goes for women and where they look.
With that said, men and women are looking for different qualities in partners. A lot of men couldn’t care less about a lot of the things women are looking for.
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