Most racist presidents of all time?

[naturalmwa]

Blah, blah, blah. You made a comment, I asked you a question about your comment, and you refused to answer it, once again, because you don't know anything and you know that the hammer is coming. Do you know why I don't ignore "yes or no" questions? It's because I keep the same beliefs, no matter what side it comes from. You're a party line hypocrite, and therefore you can't answer simple "yes or no" questions, because you first have to figure out what you've said in the past, and then you have to figure out how your party would want you to answer.

You are a joke. Someone who would rather obfuscate than argue what they believe in. You are essentially a troll, whether or not you believe it yourself. You're basically Fred. I love it, because it's so easy to just pound your ignorant ass into the ground. It's really the only reason I took you off ignore...I missed destroying your ridiculous posts.

Your grip on reality is tenuous. You didn't ask a question. You made up a position and assigned it to me. I corrected you now 4 times.

 

[NoleSoup4U]

Your grip on reality is tenuous. You didn't ask a question. You made up a position and assigned it to me. I corrected you now 4 times.

That's all you have? Yeah, don't try to refute anything I said or prove me wrong. Just insult me, you wannabee troll. LOL!

 

[uniFIGHTuniFIGHT]

BTW, I always love an argument about how slavery and racism are two different arguments because slavery existed elsewhere way before this American experiment. Especially when someone wants to pretend that we're past all that effects of that shit.

 

[naturalmwa]

That's all you have? Yeah, don't try to refute anything I said or prove me wrong. Just insult me, you wannabee troll. LOL!

I'm getting what I want out of this. I don't believe in the reach around.

 

[NoleSoup4U]

BTW, I always love an argument about how slavery and racism are two different arguments because slavery existed elsewhere way before this American experiment. Especially when one party wants to pretend that we're past all that effects of that shit.

Maybe you want to try to refute my reasoning? Or did you just want to drive-by insult like your buddy?

 

[NoleSoup4U]

I'm getting what I want out of this. I don't believe in the reach around.

I see the white flag, and I accept. I don't think you're a bad person. I just think you should become more educated about things you wish to dip your toe into.

 

[uniFIGHTuniFIGHT]

Maybe you want to try to refute my reasoning? Or did you just want to drive-by insult like your buddy?

Try actual reasoning. Wouldn't it be nice if people saw things your way?

 

[NoleSoup4U]

Try actual reasoning. Wouldn't it be nice if people saw things your way?

Insults it is I guess...and I was so hoping that someone had the intellect to try to challenge my argument.

 

[naturalmwa]

I see the white flag, and I accept. I don't think you're a bad person. I just think you should become more educated about things you wish to dip your toe into.

See how much we have in common?

 

[NoleSoup4U]

See how much we have in common?

That was just for you, so that you wouldn't feel so bad about getting s***-hammered and allowed to exit gracefully, but you're kind of ruining it.

 

[strummingram]

Those were also some of the worst drivers, too. They were also terrible about wasting electricity.

 

[naturalmwa]

Those were also some of the worst drivers, too. They were also terrible about wasting electricity.

You're in a forgiving mood. I bet you were for the defense at Nuremberg too.

 

[NoleSoup4U]

You're in a forgiving mood. I bet you were for the defense at Nuremberg too.

You aren't going to fair any better against Strumm. Let's discuss this or I'm going to do something else.

 

[naturalmwa]

That was just for you, so that you wouldn't feel so bad about getting s***-hammered and allowed to exit gracefully, but you're kind of ruining it.

I see someone trying to save face. You may leave at any time, I've had my fun with you boy.

 

[NoleSoup4U]

I see someone trying to save face. You may leave at any time, I've had my fun with you boy.

Well, we can always go back to discussion instead of insults.

 

[uniFIGHTuniFIGHT]

Insults it is I guess...and I was so hoping that someone had the intellect to try to challenge my argument.

What's your argument? That slavery is nothing new? That the market decided who the slaves were and that that's just how it went? And that race should have nothing to do with our political discourse even when it's integral to how our nation has developed? You've one fascinating mind.

Edit: Just to clarify, my use of "fascinating" is meant to be very insulting.

 

[NoleSoup4U]

What's your argument? That slavery is nothing new? That the market decided who the slaves were and that that's just how it went? And that race should have nothing to do with our political discourse even when it's integral to how our nation has developed? You've one fascinating mind.

Well then, it should be pretty easy to refute. I await your reasoning as to why my hypothesis is so wrong.

 

[naturalmwa]

Well, we can always go back to discussion instead of insults.

Look at you getting all hope and change on me.

 

[NoleSoup4U]

Look at you getting all hope and change on me.

Just looking for some solid discussions. It's hard to come by when I talk to you, but I still have a sliver of that hope.

 

[uniFIGHTuniFIGHT]

Well then, it should be pretty easy to refute. I await your reasoning as to why my hypothesis is so wrong.

I'm not sure what your hypothesis is. You haven't actually made it clear.

 

[naturalmwa]

Well then, it should be pretty easy to refute. I await your reasoning as to why my hypothesis is so wrong.

Why would you feel entitled to more than a post that just asserts you are wrong by common knowledge? That is the level of discourse you send up on a good day. You're going to need to prove you are worthy of more.

 

[NoleSoup4U]

So, no discussions?

 

[naturalmwa]

Just looking for some solid discussions. It's hard to come by when I talk to you, but I still have a sliver of that hope.

I like your optimism

 

[strummingram]

You're in a forgiving mood. I bet you were for the defense at Nuremberg too.

The point is; it's useless to try and hold people who lived centuries ago to social standards of the present-day. Jefferson was opposed to funding NASA, by the way.

In 200 years, you'll be considered prejudiced by the standards of future generations. Don't you feel guilty?

 

[NoleSoup4U]

The point is; it's useless to try and hold people who lived centuries ago to social standards of the present-day. Jefferson was opposed to funding NASA, by the way.

In 200 years, you'll be considered prejudiced by the standards of future generations. Don't you feel guilty?

I can't believe how hard this is to understand. Good post.

 

[uniFIGHTuniFIGHT]

The point is; it's useless to try and hold people who lived centuries ago to social standards of the present-day. Jefferson was opposed to funding NASA, by the way.

In 200 years, you'll be considered prejudiced by the standards of future generations. Don't you feel guilty?

You should read Nole's posts in this thread before you start talking about white guilt. He's contributed nothing to this thread apart from "there have always been slaves."

 

[NoleSoup4U]

You should read Nole's posts in this thread before you start talking about white guilt. He's contribute nothing to this thread.

Yet, you can't refute my "nothing" post. Don't go getting all "natural" on me.

 

[uniFIGHTuniFIGHT]

By the way, it wasn't "centuries" ago.

 

[uniFIGHTuniFIGHT]

Yet, you can't refute my "nothing" post. Don't go getting all "natural" on me.

What am I supposed to refute? What's your argument? Lay it out. I've read all your posts in this thread. None of them had anything to do with the inane OP.

 

[naturalmwa]

The point is; it's useless to try and hold people who lived centuries ago to social standards of the present-day. Jefferson was opposed to funding NASA, by the way.

In 200 years, you'll be considered prejudiced by the standards of future generations. Don't you feel guilty?

I think they knew owning people was wrong. I think they just did it anyway because it was to their benefit. I also think they justified owning people based on race, hence they were racists.

 

[strummingram]

I can't believe how hard this is to understand. Good post.

They bathed about twice a month, so clearly they had poor hygiene. Except that, in 1780, THAT WAS FREQUENT!

 

[uniFIGHTuniFIGHT]

Also, insist that I can't refute your argument when you haven't made one.

 

[strummingram]

I think they knew owning people was wrong. I think they just did it anyway because it was to their benefit. I also think they justified owning people based on race, hence they were racists.

I think you need to share your time machine.

 

[uniFIGHTuniFIGHT]

They bathed about twice a month, so clearly they had poor hygiene. Except that, in 1780, THAT WAS FREQUENT!

Oh, it's an old south thing. I'm glad that you people are suffering.

 

[NoleSoup4U]

What am I supposed to refute? What's your argument? Lay it out. I've read all your posts in this thread. None of them had anything to do with the inane OP.

So, "natural" it is. Rock on, brutha.

 

[NoleSoup4U]

Oh, it's an old south thing. I'm glad that you people are suffering.

I can understand insulting people from time to time, but is that all you have?

 

[naturalmwa]

I think you need to share your time machine.

It's common knowledge brutha.

 

[naturalmwa]

I can understand insulting people from time to time, but is that all you have?

I bet you would be fun in a dungeon.

 

[NoleSoup4U]

I bet you would be fun in a dungeon.

Maybe if it had a 20 sided die, although I've always been more of a GURPS fan.

 

[strummingram]

It's common knowledge brutha.

Go Back To The Future and apologize for your prejudiced behavior.