Most racist presidents of all time?
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Exactly...
We see the world through our present-day filter.
What's unfortunate is there is still just as much prejudice alive today as it was then. Tribalism (racism) is always present in human society.
I'm sure almost everyone here would agree with: "American is the best country in the world." It's not, but that won't stop Americans from insisting their country, culture, government, way of life, etc., is superior to the rest of the world.
People do it with their political partisanship almost constantly.
True. In that era character behavior was thought to be in large part biologically determined by race. Each race head inherent traits that were biologically transmitted to successive generations. Sub-Saharan Africans were considered to be the lowest 'species' of man. Of course racism still exists today but it is the result of cultural notions. Very few actually believe that a person is born to live a certain way based on his/her race.
Again, there are people in this country today who do not consider it a slur. That they are fewer in number- at least openly - doesn't change the fact that they were then and are now racists. The point is that we CAN look back at them from this time and judge their behavior.
Though part of the early slave trade, by the mid-1700's, Quakers everywhere were barred from owning slaves at the risk of being disowned. They were prominent in the abolitionist movement and participated in the Underground Railroad. They KNEW that owning others was wrong and they condemned it in the strongest possible language. They would have been offended at being referred to as racists.
Being opposed to human bondage doesn't mean the contemporary Quakers didn't believe whites to be superior to blacks.
Very few where? I can take you to places where that belief is VERY prevalent today.
You know people who believe other races are biologically predetermined towards certain behaviors?
And, more specifically, each Quaker had their own unique perspective... just like each of us! Some may have thought "they shouldn't be enslaved, but they aren't equal to us."
I'm glad the Quakers were around, however.
So quit excusing those who weren't repulsed by it. There were people of that time who KNEW it was wrong to own other human beings. That those who did so thought it was right DOES NOT give them some kind of immunity to historical judgment. Quit making that inane argument.
I know plenty of people that think others born in a ghetto or suburbia (social, cultural, economic reasons) etc. are more likely to behave certain ways. But don't know anyone that think blacks are biologically closer to animals than other people.
The basis of nineteenth-century racism is that people of certain color were biologically destined for different levels of achievement. Men descended from Europe were at the top and men from Africa at the bottom.
I'm not excusing anyone. I'm not sure why you keep saying that. If they thought it was okay to do it, that was their choice. I think it was wrong. I wouldn't do it. I also have the benefit of 150 years of human culture and history as a scale to measure what they did. I'm not excusing them just because I don't judge them the way you are.
You may want to look up what the word excuse means. It means to lesson the judgment. It is exactly what you are doing.
I'm not lessening any judgement. I'm not judging at all. I wish they hadn't felt the way they did, and I wish they hadn't done what they did. But, that wish is about as useful as you saying George Washington was more of a racist than you are. You, by your own admission, have admitted that certain groups are better than others. Prejudice is alive and well in your mind.
You might want to come out of your bubble once in a while.
Here's a whole book on the biological differences among the races. Lots of people seized on this book as proof that blacks were less intelligent than whites due to their biology.
You might want to come out of your bubble once in a while.
Here's a whole book on the biological differences among the races. Lots of people seized on this book as proof that blacks were less intelligent than whites due to their biology.
No, lots of SJWs freaked out about anyone ever dreaming of compiling such data.
That's true. I can even excuse you for claiming that Methodists are better than Baptists.
Are you actually DENYING that this book wasn't used as I stated? Seriously? State that directly if you don't mind.
Good point...I don't dislike certain groups because of their ethnicity but rather I hate their culture. If you confuse that with racism you aren't getting it.
No, it actually helps me feel equal.
Well, the confusion is using racism to refer to prejudice. Racism is not always specific. Prejudice is more distinct.
Hating a culture is likely due to not understanding it, or fearing it, for whatever reason. Then it becomes a prejudiced attitude toward the culture. Thinking a certain race, or ethnicity, is inferior to you, is not a lot different from hating a culture that you don't subscribe to. It can have similar results in terms of the behaviors that go along with them.
Really, dude? Do you use the same two tricks constantly? Please tell me that there is more to you than this.
Ok I'm "prejudiced" against certain aspects of their culture and yes I think they are inferior to mine...happy?
No bud...his specialty is being a condescending and at times arrogant tool...but I must admit I find him tolerable...and like me he digs black chicks.
