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MSU expects to have a good idea of what Iowa will do Saturday

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Mike Tressel has reached out to Pitt coach Pat Narduzzi and it sounds like Narduzzi is helping him scheme for Iowa. Now I hate Pitt.

http://michiganstate.247sports.com/...d-idea-of-what-Iowa-will-do-Saturday-41652014

EAST LANSING – Mark Dantonio was sure he and his staff would make a point of reaching out to Pat Narduzzi, their former co-worker, this week in preparation for Iowa.

That has taken place, as co-defensive coordinator Mike Tressel said he knows Dantonio has been in touch with the former MSU defensive coordinator and current Pitt head coach “quite a bit” this week.

“We’ve been in touch with him all year and certainly he’s gonna help us wherever he can,” Tressel said. “But the bottom line is you turn on the film and you see what you’re gonna see.”

Pitt lost to Iowa 27-24 early this season, providing perhaps as good a look as possible for Michigan State as it prepares to face the Hawkeyes in the Big Ten title game on Saturday in Indianapolis.

With Narduzzi at the helm, the Panthers run a similar scheme defensively to MSU, naturally. Tressel said that is what film showed, as Pitt went out and ran the defense the way MSU has done in the past against Iowa. In turn, Iowa also attacked Pitt in the same way it has the Spartans.

“We have a pretty good idea of what they’re gonna do,” Tressel said. “There will be a wrinkle here and there, but we have a pretty good idea of what they’re gonna do. We’re gonna have a wrinkle here or there but they’re gonna have a pretty good idea of what we’re gonna do, so it’s about execution and it’s about good, old-fashioned toughness.”

There was no real revelations from talking to Narduzzi, Tressel said, but he did touch on things he would have done differently if he had the chance to play Iowa again. MSU will get that shot Saturday.

While it is the first meeting between the two schools since 2013, the reality is both teams stick to their guns and who are they are. When Tressel looks at the Iowa, he just sees a unit making more plays, while existing in mostly the same system.

It is that which has made the Iowa offense gain the perception of being more exciting than it years past.

“When you're converting on third downs or making big passes, your offense is more exciting,” Tressel said. “That doesn't mean it's new and different scheme. It means your players are making plays and they're doing that.”
 
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Hopefully we have the same statistical edge Saturday that we had against Pitt.
 
The good thing about the Hawks is that we are so balanced. If the run game isn't there, its not like were screwed. CJ is more than capable of picking up a blitz and making them pay (kittle vs Purdue)
 
Pitt did not get introduced to Mr. Wadley.

Yep, I bet Wadley plays in at least a couple drives this game - another dimension (quicker than JC).

Also, I suspect that they may be a bit surprised how mobile CJ Beathard will be this game - I think he runs beyond the LOS around 10 times (and hopefully for a few key 1st downs)
 
Sounds like a coordinator lacking confidence. Calling the former coordinator is the last thing I would do.

I disagree. Teams do this all of the time. Remember after we beat Georgia Tech in the Orange Bowl, all of the ACC coordinators reached out to hear how Norm did it?

It is cat and mouse, and the two are always trying to remain a step ahead.

But anyway, we have few secrets. Maybe we have some plays we might run if we are behind and need to catch up, but who's seen those since Illinois? Nobody.
 
I hope we don't bring Wadley in for just edge plays. They will key on him there as soon as he goes in. Maybe put him between the tackles for a play or two...then stretch him out...maybe use him as a decoy for some pass plays.
 
I hope we don't bring Wadley in for just edge plays. They will key on him there as soon as he goes in. Maybe put him between the tackles for a play or two...then stretch him out...maybe use him as a decoy for some pass plays.

That's what I was thinking. Bring him in and on his first play in, play-action pass for a deep ball.
 
Mike Tressel has reached out to Pitt coach Pat Narduzzi and it sounds like Narduzzi is helping him scheme for Iowa. Now I hate Pitt.

http://michiganstate.247sports.com/...d-idea-of-what-Iowa-will-do-Saturday-41652014

EAST LANSING – Mark Dantonio was sure he and his staff would make a point of reaching out to Pat Narduzzi, their former co-worker, this week in preparation for Iowa.

That has taken place, as co-defensive coordinator Mike Tressel said he knows Dantonio has been in touch with the former MSU defensive coordinator and current Pitt head coach “quite a bit” this week.

“We’ve been in touch with him all year and certainly he’s gonna help us wherever he can,” Tressel said. “But the bottom line is you turn on the film and you see what you’re gonna see.”

Pitt lost to Iowa 27-24 early this season, providing perhaps as good a look as possible for Michigan State as it prepares to face the Hawkeyes in the Big Ten title game on Saturday in Indianapolis.

With Narduzzi at the helm, the Panthers run a similar scheme defensively to MSU, naturally. Tressel said that is what film showed, as Pitt went out and ran the defense the way MSU has done in the past against Iowa. In turn, Iowa also attacked Pitt in the same way it has the Spartans.

“We have a pretty good idea of what they’re gonna do,” Tressel said. “There will be a wrinkle here and there, but we have a pretty good idea of what they’re gonna do. We’re gonna have a wrinkle here or there but they’re gonna have a pretty good idea of what we’re gonna do, so it’s about execution and it’s about good, old-fashioned toughness.”

There was no real revelations from talking to Narduzzi, Tressel said, but he did touch on things he would have done differently if he had the chance to play Iowa again. MSU will get that shot Saturday.

While it is the first meeting between the two schools since 2013, the reality is both teams stick to their guns and who are they are. When Tressel looks at the Iowa, he just sees a unit making more plays, while existing in mostly the same system.

It is that which has made the Iowa offense gain the perception of being more exciting than it years past.

“When you're converting on third downs or making big passes, your offense is more exciting,” Tressel said. “That doesn't mean it's new and different scheme. It means your players are making plays and they're doing that.”

.....said every team Iowa has played since 2002.
 
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Sounds like a coordinator lacking confidence. Calling the former coordinator is the last thing I would do.

You probably wouldn't be a very good coach. Granted Iowa's offense is exotic or complex, but the more eyes you have looking at something the better. Narduzzi might see something that Dantonio missed or have a different way to defend a certain play. Maybe Narduzzi has an idea how to stop something Iowa did successfully against them back in September. That is something that is not on film. MSU would be foolish not to reach out to Narduzzi.
 
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Ferentz and Dantonio have been doing there thing for a while...I have a sneaking suspicion both teams know a great deal about the other..
 
WHAT SCARES ME: At the end of the Pitt game, they cut us up and started moving the ball. Same with Minnesota. Same with Purdue at times. We do have a weakness against some routes. I know our staff and players will work to get this locked down, but it does leave room for concern.
 
WHAT SCARES ME: At the end of the Pitt game, they cut us up and started moving the ball. Same with Minnesota. Same with Purdue at times. We do have a weakness against some routes. I know our staff and players will work to get this locked down, but it does leave room for concern.

This has been true for the last 17 years, even against KF's best defenses. It is the bend but don't break mentality. Keep everything in front, make plays, tighten up in the redzone, and wait for the offense to make mistakes.
 
WHAT SCARES ME: At the end of the Pitt game, they cut us up and started moving the ball. Same with Minnesota. Same with Purdue at times. We do have a weakness against some routes. I know our staff and players will work to get this locked down, but it does leave room for concern.
And you'll see some of the same with Cook. I just hope they settle for field goals in the red zone.
 
This is a good time to utilize the TE's as much as possible. Disguise your offensive schemes and make sure they are a threat from the get go.
 
Read the article. That actually wasn't unsaid. :)

True.

Then the post subject should have read "both teams know what's coming" then, right?

I have more concerns with a team Iowa has never played more than a team they've plays 7 times against their head coach since 2006. Sure, you haven't seen half the players in 2+ years, but systematically, I doubt MSU nor Iowa truly has changed an awful lot.

There will be wrinkles as the article states...but I doubt we're going to see MSU going to an Indiana or Minnesota style offense or a wholesale change in philosphy defensively...nor Iowa going full pistol on offense and bringing 8 every down on defense.

It will be a slugfest, and the team that executes best while making the fewest mistakes should win...just like the previous 7 meetings.
 
No mysteries:

What isn't said is Iowa will most likely know exactly what MSU does too.

“We have a pretty good idea of what they’re gonna do,” Tressel said. “There will be a wrinkle here and there, but we have a pretty good idea of what they’re gonna do. We’re gonna have a wrinkle here or there but they’re gonna have a pretty good idea of what we’re gonna do, so it’s about execution and it’s about good, old-fashioned toughness.”
 
It's the 13th game of the year. Not many secrets left. It's not like Kirk has been saving Jonathan Parker as his secret weapon for the CCG. Line em up and bang heads to see who's better.
 
It's the 13th game of the year. Not many secrets left.

There is ONE thing that the opponents of Iowa's really haven't seen yet. Not that I wish for this to happen, but there's not much film on how Iowa would try to get back into a game if we fell behind by 10+.

I'm not saying that as a joke either. KF's style is always to get a lead and then milk the clock and play "BBDB" defense. It would be sort of a mystery how Iowa would get back into a game, and I hope there is a solution to that mystery as I suspect if we keep playing eventually it will need to happen.
 
Put Wadley in the game with Parker in the slot. Run Parker across the backfield like he does for every play he is on the field, run a pitch to Wadley to get all the LB flowing and then have Vandeberg on end around with one of our TE running interference to the end zone.
 
WHAT SCARES ME: At the end of the Pitt game, they cut us up and started moving the ball. Same with Minnesota. Same with Purdue at times. We do have a weakness against some routes. I know our staff and players will work to get this locked down, but it does leave room for concern.
Scares me how easily Pitt blocked that punt. Guess that we have had a few games to work on that since.
 
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