Which 2 teams is the Big 10 looking to add right now and go to a 4 division conference?

[TXHCHawk]

FSU is a broke shithole of a school. Academically are mid, if it's a Florida school it will be Miami. If it's not ND, and it will be should the ACC dissolve, it should be UNC and Miami.

Yeah, not to pour salt in FSUs wounds, but even USF, along with Florida and Miami, is AAU. I believe FSU has been trying to move toward accreditation in the future. Miami received theirs in 2023.

 

[TXHCHawk]

??? Clearly your odds of increasing research funding improves when you're in an academic consortium -- especially as a member of the largest academic research consortium by far. For example, the Big Ten Cancer Research Consortium increases the funding for all of the schools in the conference that participate.

To put this back on you - are you really going to argue that being in the Big Ten Academic Alliance won't improve your stature and availability to research grants?? I know you still have to compete for many/most grants, but are you really going to argue your odds of receiving them don't go up when you're working with the nation's premiere academic alliance?

And hence why the University Presidents make the ultimate decisions, not the ADs.

 

[TXHCHawk]

Not at all, there is an institutional component, but that has nothing to do with receiving funding from nsf or NIH, and being in the big ten has no affect on that.

It has a huge impact. The Consortium allows for greater collaboration with more great research minds. When the papers are written, the principal investigators often cross-pollinate. And even if not, the consortium has a greater chance of their members being awarded grants/funding.

 

[TXHCHawk]

Pooled resources have nothing to do with it. Again it is about having an expertise, this consortium does not mean more funding. It is the individual research that bring the money.

Try telling that to the B1G Presidents.

 

[squeezebox]

Try telling that to the B1G Presidents.

I’ll make sure to pass it along to the NIH program officer that they owe me funding due to this consortium

 

[TXHCHawk]

They aren’t student athletes anymore, come on man.

You can think that, and you can say that, but they are.

 

[onlyTheObvious]

You can think that, and you can say that, but they are.

“Academically Ineligible”
Can anybody remember the last time they heard that?

Is it because you can take online classes and basically have the tutors do all the work?

 

[Metuo Accipiter]

I’ll make sure to pass it along to the NIH program officer that they owe me funding due to this consortium

It’s amazing to think someone believes grants are awarded solely on the merit of the research, and that other factors don’t influence choices, amounts, etc. Seems I should try to sell you a bridge.

 

[squeezebox]

It’s amazing to think someone believes grants are awarded solely on the merit of the research, and that other factors don’t influence choices, amounts, etc. Seems I should try to sell you a bridge.

They are awarded based on the research and reviewed by a panel of peers, I’m sorry that is difficult to understand, but this is the last time I’m responding because as Twain said, “don’t argue with stupid people.”

 

[TXHCHawk]

They are awarded based on the research and reviewed by a panel of peers, I’m sorry that is difficult to understand, but this is the last time I’m responding because as Twain said, “don’t argue with stupid people.”

Nice. Salvos like that stand in the way of discovery.

 

[Metuo Accipiter]

They are awarded based on the research and reviewed by a panel of peers, I’m sorry that is difficult to understand, but this is the last time I’m responding because as Twain said, “don’t argue with stupid people.”

Oh, the perfect peer review process filled with humans without bias or agenda that can’t be influenced. It’s truly amazing how perfect federal finding works in your world. As for the rest of us, we live in reality and know many factors will always influence decisions, especially when money is involved.

One last thing, when someone routinely has to resort to belittling others, it’s a tell of who the person is.

 

[hahkize]

Nebraska is actually a larger brand than Iowa, regardless of the past 15 years.

True. Nebbie games, as bad as they've been since joining the Big10, draw viewers. It's why they were added in the first place b/c there ain't no big tv markets in Nebraska. If they could ever get their act together........

 

[hahkize]

I think the old narrative that the SEC is a downgrade academically isn't true anymore. Adding A&M, Texas, and the massive uptick at UF makes it fairly legitimate. None of mentions Vandy.

Also Mizzou is AAU.

 

[hahkize]

to get to 20, the B1G will most likely have to add Stanford and Cal...as they meet the AAU and other metrics

the conference would prefer to add UNC and Virginia...as they meet the AAU and other metrics even better than the previous two...but those schools may not be interested since they view the B1G as not a very good cultural fit.

if the B1G cared more about the level of the school's football program and the recruiting grounds the schools bring, then they would push to add TAMU and Miami (FL)...but they actually don't care that much about those metrics

But TAM and Miami do fit the conference academically as well as football. The SEC doesn't care as much about Miami as they do FSU, but they still do not want a B10 presence in the South.

 

[hahkize]

Yep, another issue for them getting in the B1G. It's SEC or bust and I don't think it happens before they descend into irrelevance unfortunately.

Not a fit culturally for the SEC and don't bring enough eyeballs. Their basketball program would be the only thing of value and the SEC values KU much more b/c their BB is a blue-blood

 

[SDHawkDoc]

Pitts been brought up before, and PSU is steadfast against that ever happening and has been pretty clear about that...

If psu is against it then I'm all for it.

 

[longliveCS40]

It's all about TV markets. Iowa State has ZERO chance of being invited.

Notre Dame would be first on the list. Then look at viewership of the rest of CFB not in the SEC and there's your list.

 

[IowaHawk1994]

Notre Dame should be locked out of this conference for eternity.

ND has no interest or intentions in joining the Big 10. The officiating in this conference is a one sided predetermined winner joke.
Poor Oregon is going to get the B!G F job in this CTG.

 

[IowaHawk1994]

If psu is against it then I'm all for it.

Who gives a F about what PennU has to say.