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Muslim man kills mother, cuts her heart out, then masturbates on her.

I'm pretty sure that's a cow's heart anyway. Shouldn't it be Hindu?

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You do not read the newspaper or watch TV? Strange. Even BHO at the national Prayer Breakfast had to go back to the inquisitions and Crusades to find killing in the name of Christ. BTW, do have a link for original statement?
 
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Couple beat son to death so he would confess 'sins,' cops say

Two teenagers were beaten for several hours in a deadly assault perpetrated by their parents and other members of the Word of Life Church during a “counseling session” in hopes the brothers would confess their “sins,” cops said Wednesday.

Lucas Leonard, 19, died of his injuries, which included “multiple contusions” of the torso and extremities, according to New Hartford Police Chief Michael Inserra at a news conference attended by the Syracuse Post-Standard. Christopher Leonard, 17, remains in serious condition. Police said “fist and feet were used” in the beatings, which they said occurred following a service at the central New York church on Sunday night.

Just your average nice Christian family.


Do you honestly think IMCC posted that to say Muslims are bad, and nobody else is? You two are like money's in a feces throwing contest.
 
Do you honestly think IMCC posted that to say Muslims are bad, and nobody else is? You two are like money's in a feces throwing contest.
Yes, I absolutely believe that. It was one of a long line of attempts to say exactly that. Maybe not to the point that "no one else is", but certainly that no one else is AS BAD as them.
 
Islam is a religion of peace. Christianity is a religion of peace. Buddhism is a religion of peace. Judaism is a religion of peace. Most human theologies are peaceful. The problem is, the PEOPLE that are IN the religions kinda do their own thing with the religions... like this guy here. But, the religions themselves are peaceful and encourage peaceful existence. I have a feeling that Muslims in middle eastern countries use the atrocities performed by Christians and Jews, etc., to try to convince their fellow Muslims that Christians are heathens and savages, or Jews, or whatever. Religions are institutions that require a competition for their own survival. I also wonder how much these people actually adhere to religions and how much the media embellishes the religious part to sell their stories. Never a dull moment.
Look into these institutions closer. They are not all inherently peaceful that just got screwed up by silly people going off the rails.
 
You do not read the newspaper or watch TV? Strange. Even BHO at the national Prayer Breakfast had to go back to the inquisitions and Crusades to find killing in the name of Christ. BTW, do have a link for original statement?

Do you read them? Please try reading what the OP wrote and what I posted again. Read the words for what they say and not what you want them to say. I said nothing about killing in the name of religion. Then come back with a link that supports your allegation that Muslims are more violent than Christians.

As far as dozens of murders committed by Christians, the FBI says there were about 14,000 murders in the U.S. in 2013 (the last year with full stats).

That's, on average, 38 murders per day in the United States, a nation that is approximately 71 percent Christian. The FBI also says that murderers in the United States are about 77% Christian - so ballpark, Christians commit 27 or so murders per day in the U.S.
 
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Look into these institutions closer. They are not all inherently peaceful that just got screwed up by silly people going off the rails.
I recoil at organized religion as much as anyone. But, I do believe they are intended to help people get back to God. To me, that is inherently peaceful. We've never been separated from God, so that creates some interesting results. And, they are all in competition with one another, which sort of sets in motion the possibility for violence once the people feel threatened by the "other" religions. But, in and of themselves, I believe they are inherently peaceful. And, they didn't get screwed-up by people going off the rails. People go off the rails anyway. There are far, far more people who adhere to their peaceful aspects than go off the rails. We rarely hear about them, however.
 
I recoil at organized religion as much as anyone. But, I do believe they are intended to help people get back to God. To me, that is inherently peaceful. We've never been separated from God, so that creates some interesting results. And, they are all in competition with one another, which sort of sets in motion the possibility for violence once the people feel threatened by the "other" religions. But, in and of themselves, I believe they are inherently peaceful. And, they didn't get screwed-up by people going off the rails. People go off the rails anyway. There are far, far more people who adhere to their peaceful aspects than go off the rails. We rarely hear about them, however.
You have to remember the roots of these religions was to get "their" tribe to OBEY "their" god. It wasn't to get people to be close to god, that's a very modern theology. And it wasn't thought that everyone should get god's favors. Inherently religion is exclusionary and combative.
 
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You have to remember the roots of these religions was to get "their" tribe to OBEY "their" god. It wasn't to get people to be close to god, that's a very modern theology. And it wasn't thought that everyone should get god's favors. Inherently religion is exclusionary and combative.
Fair enough. I get what you're saying. I was being too much of an idealist. I stand corrected. You're right. They are all about being adherent to the club's rules and don't "upset God" and God is more human than what a God should really be, by their descriptions.

But, I still believe that there is.. an EFFORT?... to encourage peaceful existence! I think Jesus of Nazareth was a pretty peaceful guy, or amalgam of guys.
 
Here are the top 10 countries in terms of annual homicide rates, and the primary religions of said countries.

  1. Honduras -- 51.4% catholic, 36.2% Protestant, 11.1% none or unknown, 1.5% "other" (includes Muslims, Buddhists, Jews, etc.)
  2. Venezuela -- 71% Catholic, 17% Protestant, 9% none or unknown, 3% "other"
  3. US Virgin Islands -- 59% Protestant, 34% Catholic, 7% "other" or none (0.1% Muslim)
  4. Belize -- 40% Catholic, 32% Protestant, 15.5% 'none', 9.5% "other", 2% Jehovah's Witness, 1% Muslim
  5. El Salvador -- 47% Catholic, 33% protestant, 17% 'none', 3% "other"
  6. Guatemala -- 47% Catholic, 39% Protestant, 12% 'none', 2% "other"
  7. Jamaica -- 62% Protestant, 4% Catholic, 30% other spiritual 'cults', Jehovah's Witness 2%, <1% Muslim, Jewish, Hindus
  8. Lesotho -- 45% Protestant, 45% Catholic, 10% "other" (Muslim, Hindus, Buddhists, Bahai')
  9. Swaziland -- 63% Protestant, 20% Catholic, 15% "traditional religions", 1% Muslim, <1% Bahai', Hindu, Jewish
  10. Saint Kitts and Nevis -- 94.6% "Christian", 1.6% 'none', 1.5% Hindu, 1.3% 'traditional', 0.5% Bahai', 0.5% Muslim and others.
I generally agree with you on thing but this is not evidence. Do you think homicides are reported honestly in every country.
Also, if you believe your own statistics you would also then have to believe that Islam is safer.
Tell me where would you want your daughter to grow up. See what happens if she shows a little chin. Some of you are so afraid to offend it's pathetic. You can't marginalize/terrorize/brutalize/hide/denegrate 1/2 of your population and be considered peaceful.
Is this true of every Muslim or Islamic nation, no. But to try and equate judism Christianity and Islam is wishful thinking. This is not the tenth century.
 
It always amazes me what the Iowa Department of Corrections allows IMCC to surf on a daily basis. I'm not sure I could find these websites if I tried to.
 
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Fair enough. I get what you're saying. I was being too much of an idealist. I stand corrected. You're right. They are all about being adherent to the club's rules and don't "upset God" and God is more human than what a God should really be, by their descriptions.

But, I still believe that there is.. an EFFORT?... to encourage peaceful existence! I think Jesus of Nazareth was a pretty peaceful guy, or amalgam of guys.
I'd like to turn this around a bit. In stead of crediting religions with a peaceful intent, I'd rather credit people with a peaceful desire. At the time that Jesus was being invented and sold, there was a powerful competing guy named Mithra. Mithra was a warrior god popular with the Roman military. The hippy lovey Jesus simply out competed Mithra because his message appealed to more people. Eventually Mithra stopped being a real god as people forgot about him. I think that's a hopeful message we might agree on.
 
I generally agree with you on thing but this is not evidence. Do you think homicides are reported honestly in every country.
Also, if you believe your own statistics you would also then have to believe that Islam is safer.
Tell me where would you want your daughter to grow up. See what happens if she shows a little chin. Some of you are so afraid to offend it's pathetic. You can't marginalize/terrorize/brutalize/hide/denegrate 1/2 of your population and be considered peaceful.
Is this true of every Muslim or Islamic nation, no. But to try and equate judism Christianity and Islam is wishful thinking. This is not the tenth century.
I was just posting some interesting data I found on a world wide crime website. I was necessarily making any judgments.

Personally, I wouldn't want my daughter living in ANY country outside of the US, Canada, or Western Europe.
 
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No, he posted it in an attempt to make it look like Muslims commit atrocious crimes in the name of religion and no one else does. Where have you been?

Well, I've been to every State in the continental USA and Hawaii. I've been to Japan, Guam, the Philippines, South Korea, and Mexico. I'll let you know if I remember any other places.
 
I'd like to turn this around a bit. In stead of crediting religions with a peaceful intent, I'd rather credit people with a peaceful desire. At the time that Jesus was being invented and sold, there was a powerful competing guy named Mithra. Mithra was a warrior god popular with the Roman military. The hippy lovey Jesus simply out competed Mithra because his message appealed to more people. Eventually Mithra stopped being a real god as people forgot about him. I think that's a hopeful message we might agree on.


One thing. It's been proven that Jesus was a real man. So there's that. Not invented.
 
One thing. It's been proven that Jesus was a real man. So there's that. Not invented.

Not even close. Outside of the Bible - which was written by people who never met Jesus - there's not one single contemporaneous recording of his existence. The historians of his time knew nothing of him.
 
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So do Christians, you dolt. You going to call out Christianity based on people who would beat their own son to death in the name of Christ? No? Hypocrite.


Sure. If that was the reason for the beating, then yes, they should be called out. Fact is, Muslims commit way more crimes in the present day then do Christians.
 
One thing. It's been proven that Jesus was a real man. So there's that. Not invented.
Not objectively. Not that it really matters as everything he did is clearly fictional anyway. It's a story. Either believe the creator of creation wanted to tell you a bedtime story by proxy or don't. That's pretty much the lay of the land.
 
I was just posting some interesting data I found on a world wide crime website. I was necessarily making any judgments.

Personally, I wouldn't want my daughter living in ANY country outside of the US, Canada, or Western Europe.

No love for Australia?!
 
Where's that proof? Is it an old post from Dave Wyatt and/or Hounded Hawk? One of those "I've been studying Christianity for 30 years!" proofs?


At some point you have enlist faith. Do you really believe the entire Bible is based on a fictional character? I mean Obama had a composite person that people believed was real, but at least it was finally determined it was a fake person. So far, it hasn't been disproven that Jesus was fake.
 
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