And Marco Lainez and Resar. Bringing in a walkon quarterback to be your fifth string shouldn’t count. So Lester has brought in Sullivan and he’s played like two or three games?!?
My thoughts on Tim Lester
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I scratched my head on the 3 plays before final field goal. Thought they would at least try to get 5-10 yards thru the air.
I'm not sure of your point. Resar is an injured wide receiver today and I seriously doubt Lainez ever sees the field at Iowa. QB recruiting over the last 6 years has been a complete bust along with the one time they splurged on the portal. Brian/Kirk had no business evaluating QB's and it showed over and over.
You seriously thought Iowa was going to pass when they were already in field goal range with 2 timeouts? Are you new here? (Or is my sarcasm meter off?)
I’m saying the only real guy that Lester has brought in that’s expecting to play is Sullivan. Every other scholarship qb is Brian and Kirk’s recruit and been a disaster.
I dont think Lester is anywhere close to having the experienced QB he needs to run and RPO and make the right decisions. I am sure very sure that Kirk wanted Shaggy to not throw the ball a lot. The few times Lester called first down passes Shaggy made some very good throws. I am sure Lester and Kirk didnt want to have Shaggy force the ball.
As it turned out Shaggy didnt fumble or get picked off. They had a QB fumble and another fumble and if the Nebby receiver hadnt grabbed Hall's face mask Hall probably picks that underthrown pass.
Hell, we had 115 yards of passing and we were all flustered by Cade not getting 100 yards. After the first couple of 3 and outs running into the overloaded defensive box I was texting my friends that we needed to throw the ball to the sidelines or any receiver that had a big cushion. Quick throws out wide, make a guy miss and gain 5-8 yards or gain even 3-4 yards.
And as it turned out the wide pass to Kaleb with his great running turned out to get him loose for the big TD. I hope to see Lester get better QB play with better receivers and pass protection.
So the thing that I kept asking yesterday was why Iowa didn't use more play action. They had an opponent that was selling out against the run on every play so it seemed ripe for play action and yet it seemed we saw almost none of it. The run plays had almost no chance of gaining any yards. Seemed like a perfect chance to run play action and leak the tight end up over the safeties and linebackers that were cheating up on every play.
I think Sollivan is a good QB. He got roughed up at UCLA and had turnovers. Was he injured and then started turning the ball over or turning the ball over and then injured? The 2 prior games he looked real good in.
So, he looked pretty good but he rarely passed the ball. He threw 14 and 10 passes for 80 and 93 yards respectively in those 2 games against some pretty weak competition. He's was definitely an upgrade from Cade, but that just meant he wasn't very bad, and was a much better fit for the offense that Lester wants to run. We'll have to see what happens, but IMO the QB room still needs a fair amount of work.
Considering the QB situation he had to deal with, I'd say he is a huge step up in that area. Really hard to judge the play calling as KF ugly fingers seem to have a death grip on it.
We continue to have a terrible passing attack, won’t take shots downfield, and have no answers on how to beat a stacked box. It’s embarrassing.
George Barnett needs fired yesterday.
OL disappeared way too much this year. They were manhandled at UCLA and last night for sure . Nebby DL was pushing them back all night long.
What’s a 5th string QB have to do with running into a wall? That 5th string qb was light years ahead of the talent we had at the position last year. This wasn’t one of Lester’s better games and I get that the playbook was probably smaller than usual but it had to be more than 1 page.
Yep. Hand the ball off and hope the other team fuks up a few times. That's the strategy.
I’m confused on the OC Head coach hierarchy here. Either all OC’s have same level of say as to who plays and what plays to call or Iowa is a rarity where head coach truly dictates at the micro level and the OC is stuck in that vortex. If it’s the latter, Lester must really be desperate for the job to live under that dictatorship. Thoughts?
Raiola may have been playing not to lose, but did make big mistake(s), did lose.
KF, Lester, great job. Rock fight victory, achieved!
Play action was our bread butter for years; seems to have gone by the wayside from Davis years forward. No idea why.
At the end of the day it is up to the HC, keeping Brian around illustrates that perfectly. What I like about Lester though is he says what needs to be said, he was obviously happy with Sully and has made it clear the offense needs the portal.
Yep. And next year’s offense better learn to throw downfield by using play action to the wide receivers and tight ends. Having Kaleb Johnson is great but Iowa doesn’t have a back that can do the things he does. Pattersen and Moulton are good but no where near KJ level of scoring 20 td’s between them. Hope Lester can bring in his guys and run his offense. We shall see.
Shotgun vs taking snaps under center.
The line being unable to block for longer than 1.5 seconds played into that. They whiffed on quite a few blocks. There were times where Stratton almost got sacked on a hand-off.
Until we threat in a passing game and opposing defenses do not stack 8-10 players at the line, who knows how good a coach he is. I will always support the players wearing black and gold but need some Jimmy and Joes at the skill positions to pose a threat.
I would actually agree, and state he should have been canned 2 years ago. The experiment isn't working any more.
Oh yeah. They were bad alright, but play action doesn't really take any longer than a standard drop back. That has more to do with the patterns that are run. If it's a TE dropping behind blitzing linebackers and safeties that's within 10 yard of the LOS.
Maybe as far as the general approach to the game plan goes (let's keep trying to establish the run, etc.), but I have a hard time believing KF is really calling actual plays. Did KF call the reverse, for example? I doubt that.
It's clear to me that Lester is an obvious improvement over what BF was giving us. He had no business being an OC or QB coach. Jury is out IMO on how far Lester could take us, though.
That was my point. Let's see what Lester will be able to do without him. We saw several times this year poor play calling from inside the 5. You have to get touchdowns in that situation.
"Has a say"? Do you mean (A) he decides that on every play? Or (B) occasionally chimes in?
A - I do not believe
B - He's the HC. He can do that.
KF loves himself some Barnett and Budm. Those two must be the biggest ass kissers in college fb to still have a job.
the 2 areas holding up Iowa the most OL and WR, Some would say QB but when the line does not give time and clean pockets or open holes against top 30 defenses and WRs who cannot get separation the QB does not have any options really , Iowa in Lester's offense also did not use the TE enough .
Yeah. I'm not sure that Kirk has the stomach to admit that he's made a hiring mistake and take the necessary steps to correct it. He's a proud guy and probably perceives it as a negative reflection on himself, always being stuck between giving someone enough time and then having too much time invested to let him go. Those 2 have jobs for life as long as Kirk is at Iowa.
We’ll see. It’d be nice to pick up a couple in the portal. A D tackle would be nice as well
It was also a Phil Parker game... limit to 10 pts, win the game.
and an entire offensive line as well.
He did ok for someone who hadn't run the offense all season & was thrust into the spotlight. Will see how he performs after a spring practice & where he's at on the depth chart next year. And he should have 3 weeks of practice before the bowl game, assuming he starts again.
Maybe it's been said, but this season with Luke Lachey I guess I don't understand the seemingly lack of targets.
Sully was in pregame warmup and halftime warmup and looked like he could plant on foot fine and was throwing good.
I didn't even see Cade on the sideline at all.
I didn't even see Cade on the sideline at all.
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