National Championships Dual Series
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Pretty wide range of possibilities for Iowa: NCState, OkState 2.0, Missouri, Lehigh, Oklahoma and VTech. Personally, I see Missouri and Vtech beating NCState and OkState bumping to 1st to take on PSU. That would then put Missouri in the Iowa slot. If NCState beats Missouri but loses to VTech, you could end up with Lehigh, Oklahoma or Vtech........
I might be wrong but for logistical purposes I think they would have to announce the pairings prior to those duals since they are a week prior to this event. I hope not. Very interested in seeing another tough team besides OK State.
I have a feeling that they are going to try and avoid OSU coming to Iowa City again. Especially if PSU doesn't loss to tOSU Friday. If it was for the #1 spot I could see them wanting to go at it again but it it isn't for #1 it is essentially just another good dual.
I have a feeling Nebraska will upset NCST this weekend. The Huskers are favored in 6 matches (125, 133, 149, 174, 184, and 197). I would like to see Iowa wrestle Missouri. I feel like we have the most to gain in that matchup (NCAA seeds & revenge from last year).
Wish we would just do like Illinois skip the dumb deal just a waste of time. ....sorry just way I look at it
Getting a chance to see our guys wrestle an extra match is good for the fans, and since I am a fan, I want to see it, whether it means anything or not, there is not a lot of wrestling going on in Feb, this will at least give us 3 matches in Feb leading up to the BIG10's. There is already 10 days between Montana State and the Nat's. Skip this and we go 3 weeks without a match, too long for this fan.
I want Missouri. I also want the NCAAs to allow Brian Smith to transfer over yet another wrestler from the east in Zeke Moisey just in time for the duel.
And, I want a camera on Ben Asskren in CHA the whole time so we can see his meltdown as his Tigers get whooped.
And, I want a camera on Ben Asskren in CHA the whole time so we can see his meltdown as his Tigers get whooped.
I personally don't like it so late in the season. Brooks got dinged up at Carver last year at National Duals and it cost him at Big Tens and Nationals.
It is unrealistic to shield the team from competition for a month or two leading up to the Big Ten tournament. It just doesn't work that way.
Anytime our guys have an opportunity to test themselves against high quality competition, it is a good thing. Bring it on. Why some are afraid of this, I will never understand.
It has just as much to do with the poor format. Having the top 4 teams battle it out for a true number one would make for less complaining. I hope we draw Missouri.
This! We need some NCAA seeding advantage out of this. Mizzou would be perfect for us.
Brooks-Miklus
Sorenson- mayes
Burak - Cox
etc.
Id like to see if they think bumping the upperweights would work. Cox vs Stoll.
But at the end of the day...who cares? No, it isn't the event that it once was or the event it could be but it is shaping up to be an excellent dual meet opportunity for the Iowa wrestling team. That's what matters at the detail level.
A Missouri dual would be great! I think we have lost the last two to them. Not this one.
Right because that would really hurt your fan turnout.
What may hurt fan turnout, is the fact there is only one week to sell tickets.
I agree. Initially I thought the duals were supposed to be winner take all, with each team wrestling till they lose (e.g., Iowa vs. PSU in the end, which I wanted to see). This format sucks!
Given it is a one day event with multiple hosts, It's been pretty clear for a long time that isn't the case.
I hope we get ok state again. We have the most to gain out of it and really nothing to lose. We can only improve our seeds
Gman won't lose
Clark won't lose
Brody has nothing to lose and could raise his seed
Bsor won't lose
Cooper Will lose but doesn't hurt anything
65 blah
74 nothing to lose and everything to gain
Brooks won't lose
Burak won't lose
Stoll nothing to lose and everything to gain.
Gman won't lose
Clark won't lose
Brody has nothing to lose and could raise his seed
Bsor won't lose
Cooper Will lose but doesn't hurt anything
65 blah
74 nothing to lose and everything to gain
Brooks won't lose
Burak won't lose
Stoll nothing to lose and everything to gain.
So, as I read it, the dual in Iowa City will be for 3rd place? There are no additional matchups after this event?
I have never understood why people think competing for 7 minutes that week is more stressful on the body or makes one more susceptible to injury than the 10+ hours of practice that week guys are enduring in the tougher rooms in the nation. I don't get the logic behind that train of thought.
There are no places. It's like a bowl game. BIG Best against best non-big. Big #2 vs Other #2, etc. This probably has zero affect on rankings
That is my understanding. It seems crazy that Iowa will finish unbeaten and participated in the stupid thing yet not be able to earn the "dual championship". They need to simply put number 1 against number 2 if they have not met previously to solve this. The best 2 teams won't always be in the BIG, but it will happen more often than not in the next several years.
Think Bowl Games in Football. It's basically an exhibition (except the matches will count), featuring 8 teams from the best Wrestling Conference, i.e. The Big Ten, versus the rest of the country's 7 other wrestling Conferences and 1 at-large team from those Conferences, with the Big Ten teams hosting.
There is no 1st, 2nd, 3rd. It is one day, one meet, for all 16 teams involved.
There is some criteria involved to get the best non-Big Ten teams to match up with the best Big Ten teams, etc.
So it will be something like this relative to Football (I believe):
Rose Bowl - Penn State versus ?
Orange Bowl - Iowa versus ?
Sugar Bowl - Michigan versus ?
Fiesta Bowl - Ohio State versus ?
Capital One Bowl - Nebraska versus ?
Outback Bowl - Rutgers versus ?
Pinstripe Bowl - Indiana versus ?
Motor City Bowl - Minnesota versus ?
Thank you for the clarification. So we won't have to hear "we are the dual champions" from any people East of here? Why do I think this won't ring true, all the while understanding that you are correct. I don't know if we would/could beat PSU in a dual, but I don't like conceding anything without a chance to find out. That would be one hell of a dual. There are probably 6 matches that could go either way imo.
Nope, nope, nope. Just stop right now. We can argue Brands vs Cael all day but we got to draw the line right here. You do not put PSU in the Rose bowl and Iowa in the Orange bowl. Those are fighting words!
Other way around my friend!
we will be considered co-big ten champions if both finish undefeated...just like a few years ago when we lost to Penn State at Carver, but it didn't count because it wasn't considered a conference dual.
It's ridiculous to call it "National Championship Dual Series" since it won't crown a national champion.
Totally agree. It's actually more like the Big10 / ACC Challenge in basketball than a bowl system. I don't mind the Big10 vs the world part, but would like to see them break this process in cases where the top two teams have not wrestled and match them up. Maybe it won't come in to affect all that often, but with Big10 scheduling being as terrible as it is, this might come in to play on a regular basis.
If they want to make it a big deal, move up nationals, and take the top 8 teams after nationals and do a 2 day Dual Tourney.
The B1G vs the rest would be a great way to start out a season like they do in that other sport.
Your Gophers are not to far way from a double class. Just as soon as the AD figures out Eggum isnt the replacement. You can see what Mark Perry can bring with him!
