National Duals Team Champion

[MSU158]

I wanted to separate this from the topic that is also addressing scoring changes.

I am sure this has been debated on here before, but I am very interested to see this forum's posters stance and reasoning. Being from Michigan our High School Team Championship has been decided in a dual format since('88) a bit before I was in High School(91-94). It honestly makes for an incredibly exciting environment. Your team qualifying for State was nearly as special as making it yourself. I know High School is completely different and the district, regional, state structure is a lot harder to work out across a whole country, but I sure would like to see a TRUE Dual Champ.

The "better way" to choose a team champion, is the gist of the debate. I, personally, think that if you are supposed to field a team of 10 starters, all 10 should matter. If you have a team of 9th best guys at every weight, you would have a very good chance of never losing a dual. If you have all 10 place this way at the NCAA Tournament, you will be lucky to place top 20.

With the above said, I am truly interested to see if the proponents of the current format simply don't want it changed for their specific entertainment purposes. Do you simply want one tournament for everything? If so, do you truly believe it is really the best way to decide who the best "Full Team" is? If you believe it better represents a team, please give reasons why.

I doubt that it will ever happen, but I would personally like to see both a TRUE National Dual Championship and the current Individual Tournament................................

 

[wasdt21]

we all look forward to big10s and ncaas every year I like it that way, that being said if a dual format can be devised that wouldn't be so close to our post season i'm all for it. I think it would need to be inclusive and mandatory. inclusive because even the little deserve their shot and mandatory because it could give top teams not competing certain advantages(team health and recruiting).I just don't see a timeslot that would be acceptable.

 

[TNTwrestle]

Two weeks after the NCAAs. Postpone my depression a little while...

 

[DonHawkeye]

I don't hate the way they set it up this year. Makes meets during the year mean something. They do need a true Big Ten champ for it to mean more.

Not only do we need someone to beat PSU to bring them down to earth a little, we need someone to beat them so we wrestle for the #1 spot.

 

[Onceafish]

If the B1G had a way to determine a dual meet champion, this format might not suck.

But as it stands, someone will be getting hosed.

If PSU wins out and you don't get a shot at the "championship" even though you're undefeated, that's not fair.

And if PSU loses to Michigan or Ohio State and you get a shot at the "championship" even though you won't have wrestled any of the other top three ranked B1G teams, that's not fair either.

 

[DonHawkeye]

I am not sure they go off the Big Ten placing. I think they go off of the highest ranked Big Ten teams.

If so, Iowa beat OSU. Which has a good chance of being the 3rd ranked team. A better win than PSU will end up having even if they win out.

 

[Spoons]

Michigan will have a shot if they can pull a couple of upsets at 125 & 133 due to psu giving up 6 at hwt.

 

[pinters]

Give me whatever your on please!