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bumper52 said:
Well, first of all I’m not a clone. I bleed black and gold. I’m 68 years old. I always get my hopes up every year. But, in the end, although Iowa has some good teams, the norm is mediocrity.Regardless of how strong the Big 10 is this year, what have the Hawks really done? They’ve won one signature game....Ohio State. And I think losing to Indiana twice more than negates the win over the Buckeyes. Three weeks ago, people on this forum were ready to run Fran out of town. Threads like “will this go down as one of the most disappointing seasons ever, the Fran Fade,etc. etc. well,give em credit....they’ve gutted it out. A lot of pOstend have made the comment that if this team doesn’t get to the Sweet 16, this wil go down as a disappointing season. Well, be prepared to be disappointed. The reality of it all is we don’t have a point guard. Well, we have one but he gets minimal minutes and sometimes never sees the court the 2nd half. Undeniably the best player on the court the second half against Gonzaga. But we play a guy at point that cannot break down a defense and blow by anyone. He gets his assists (pretty easy with Garza). And he’ll make a couple threes. Not exactly great numbers for the minutes he plays. But it gets worse. We have another starter that won’t/can’t shoot. Gets very few rebounds for the minutes he given. One of the reasons we spanked Ohio State was he got into foul trouble and Fran was forced to extend Murray’s minutes. And, oh didn’t Joe T have an incedible game running the point for our point guard who isn’t a point guard. (My bad. Already said that. Bottom line is: if Murray and Joe T get more minutes, which they have clearly earned, I like our chances way more.Also, the loss of Nunge, could really hurt us IFwe advance. Also, everyone thinking the Big 10 is so tough, needs to watch some games back in the 80’s. No comparison. And anyone who uses the Iowa-IsU game to compare the Big 10 vs Big 12, needs to retake Basketball 101. So, yes, keep calling me a clown, a troll, a legendary coach,etc. I can take it. I’m a big boy. I’m not going away.
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Well, since you're 68 yrs old, you've waited long enough to see Iowa win the national championship. I say let's make it happen. :D


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I still think the Hawks make at least the Elite 8. Honestly, I could see the B1G with half the E8 and half the FF. Iowa, IL, Mich and OSU are all E8 quality.

Which B1G teams I think make the FF will depend on the draws, basically do the get the other B1G teams? Do they get the Zags or Baylor? Does someone else sneak into a 1 seed (say Houston)?
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Iowa's ability to make the Elite 8 depends heavily on their draw. Losing Nunge hurts, and if they face a team with Big Depth, or in your face defense (athletic)/ or both, they're gonna struggle
 
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The only real comparison we have with Iowa vs the Big 12, is Iowa beating ISU by 28. That's right, Iowa beat ISU by more points than both Baylor and WVU beat ISU in 4 games combined.
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bumper52 said:
I’m getting a bad vibe about the success that the Big 10 will have in the tournament. I really do not see anyone (other than Michigan or Illinois)making a deep run. To me, they are clearly head and shoulders above the remainder of the conference. A lot of good teams, but nothing so special. After watching Baylor vs. West Virginia last night, I was very impressed. The only Big 10 I saw this year that had that effort and intensity was Michigan/Ohio State. If I was going to pick a favorite, I’d go with Baylor. They had a nice break due to COVID, and they are hungry. Kansas is also playing much better now. Obviously, you have to throw the Zags in there, but a weak schedule,will probably hurt them. As far as the Big 10, I think Illinois is scary. I think they showed last night that they are dialed in. I think Michigan is a year away from being really good. (Better than this year). And that’s not good for the rest of us. Purdue should be very good as well next year. I have total respect for Matt Painter, but his teams have really struggled in post season. Next year they could turn some heads. I guess with all the talk about the Big 10 being the strongest conference in the country....well, maybe they are....especially from top to bottom. But like I said, a lot of good teams, but not many (unless the stars line up right) that can make a deep run.
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Didn't the Hawkeyes match and even exceed Ohio States effort and intensity?
 
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bumper52 said:
Well, first of all I’m not a clone. I bleed black and gold. I’m 68 years old. I always get my hopes up every year. But, in the end, although Iowa has some good teams, the norm is mediocrity.Regardless of how strong the Big 10 is this year, what have the Hawks really done? They’ve won one signature game....Ohio State. And I think losing to Indiana twice more than negates the win over the Buckeyes. Three weeks ago, people on this forum were ready to run Fran out of town. Threads like “will this go down as one of the most disappointing seasons ever, the Fran Fade,etc. etc. well,give em credit....they’ve gutted it out. A lot of pOstend have made the comment that if this team doesn’t get to the Sweet 16, this wil go down as a disappointing season. Well, be prepared to be disappointed. The reality of it all is we don’t have a point guard. Well, we have one but he gets minimal minutes and sometimes never sees the court the 2nd half. Undeniably the best player on the court the second half against Gonzaga. But we play a guy at point that cannot break down a defense and blow by anyone. He gets his assists (pretty easy with Garza). And he’ll make a couple threes. Not exactly great numbers for the minutes he plays. But it gets worse. We have another starter that won’t/can’t shoot. Gets very few rebounds for the minutes he given. One of the reasons we spanked Ohio State was he got into foul trouble and Fran was forced to extend Murray’s minutes. And, oh didn’t Joe T have an incedible game running the point for our point guard who isn’t a point guard. (My bad. Already said that. Bottom line is: if Murray and Joe T get more minutes, which they have clearly earned, I like our chances way more.Also, the loss of Nunge, could really hurt us IFwe advance. Also, everyone thinking the Big 10 is so tough, needs to watch some games back in the 80’s. No comparison. And anyone who uses the Iowa-IsU game to compare the Big 10 vs Big 12, needs to retake Basketball 101. So, yes, keep calling me a clown, a troll, a legendary coach,etc. I can take it. I’m a big boy. I’m not going away.
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We don 't have a PG? Bohannon has more assists and made 3's than anyone in Iowa history, and if you know your Iowa history we've had some pretty good teams.

This years' B1G reminds me of the 1979-80 season when two B1G teams made the Final Four, and Iowa did it from back in the pack. Every game is a grind because there are few weak teams. The B1G has a number of teams, that under the right circumstances, could make an Elite 8 or Final Four run.
 
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Are you referring to Ohio State’s intensity vs. Michigan? If you are, yes, Iowa played with great focus and intensity vs. Ohio State. But that game was over early whereas Michigan-Ohio State went to the wire. I’m not fully what you are asking.
 
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Are you referring to Ohio State’s intensity vs. Michigan? If you are, yes, Iowa played with great focus and intensity vs. Ohio State. But that game was over early whereas Michigan-Ohio State went to the wire. I’m not fully what you are asking.
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What about the close game you were commenting on regarding Illinois vs Wisconsin just last week? Does that game make Illinois great when they almost blew it?
 
The truly great part of that game was Trice. Nineteen points in the final 2:12. I guess if all teams were playing at the very top of their game, I feel Illinois is the best team in the conference. Not any major weaknesses, although they have struggled at the line at times. The chemistry wasn’t there early in the season as they came out flat in games over a 2-3 week period. But overall, they have great balance of post-perimeter game. They can really turn it up defensively and they have a nice blend of veterans/youth.
 
About the only thing I agree with in the OP is that Nunge's loss could hurt, particularly if we see a new group of zebras that call some early fouls on Luka, who does create a lot of contact. B1G officials have generally let him play.

Otherwise, to keep dissing the Hawks and B1G is out of perspective for how good the B1G has been compared to other conferences, with the Big12 the only one that is close. If I am not mistaken, Iowa has more wins against top 25 teams as any in the country, or at least that is what an announcer had said. They have been beating ranked teams by double digits for the past couple of weeks. Other than the IU losses, which I am still confused about after watching IU in some other games, Iowa has pretty damn impressive (except the second half at UM and the final minute against the Goofers). We are actually stronger at PG this year than we have been in a very long time. I agree that JoeT needs more minutes, and I believe he might be the key to Iowa making a deep run. He allows us to match up well against smaller guard dominant teams, which you don't see a lot in the B1G.

I think there is a very good chance that the B1G will have at least 4 teams in the Sweet 16, 2 or 3 in the Elite 8, and 1 or 2 in the Final 4. The dance is very much about match ups, and having a little luck. Getting a good seed helps a LOT. If Iowa wins the next two and at least one game in the BTT, I think they will be a 2 or 3-seed. If the Hawks win 2 or more BTT games, I expect they will be a two seed, which allows them to avoid the other top teams until the Elite 8. I don't want to count chickens, so let's beat Debbie tonight, and move on from there.
 
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About the only thing I agree with in the OP is that Nunge's loss could hurt, particularly if we see a new group of zebras that call some early fouls on Luka, who does create a lot of contact. B1G officials have generally let him play.

Otherwise, to keep dissing the Hawks and B1G is out of perspective for how good the B1G has been compared to other conferences, with the Big12 the only one that is close. If I am not mistaken, Iowa has more wins against top 25 teams as any in the country, or at least that is what an announcer had said. They have been beating ranked teams by double digits for the past couple of weeks. Other than the IU losses, which I am still confused about after watching IU in some other games, Iowa has pretty damn impressive (except the second half at UM and the final minute against the Goofers). We are actually stronger at PG this year than we have been in a very long time. I agree that JoeT needs more minutes, and I believe he might be the key to Iowa making a deep run. He allows us to match up well against smaller guard dominant teams, which you don't see a lot in the B1G.

I think there is a very good chance that the B1G will have at least 4 teams in the Sweet 16, 2 or 3 in the Elite 8, and 1 or 2 in the Final 4. The dance is very much about match ups, and having a little luck. Getting a good seed helps a LOT. If Iowa wins the next two and at least one game in the BTT, I think they will be a 2 or 3-seed. If the Hawks win 2 or more BTT games, I expect they will be a two seed, which allows them to avoid the other top teams until the Elite 8. I don't want to count chickens, so let's beat Debbie tonight, and move on from there.
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He's a horrible troll that knows his beloved clones bball program is in shambles. The OP wants to share his misery but nobody is falling for it. Go away clown.
 
bumper52 said:
What the hell is your problem? You seen to fire bullets. How about maning up and tell me how I offend you. It’s a TALK forum; people are allowed to express their opinions.
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yes, as I am allowed to have mine also. You seem to ignore certain things that have happened during the season for Iowa and what other teams have also gone through. OSU has lost 3 in a row recently. Illinois lost a lot in mid January, Iowa lost in early February. But you continue to pile on Iowa and not those teams.... it is weird.
 
bumper52 said:
Well, first of all I’m not a clone. I bleed black and gold. I’m 68 years old. I always get my hopes up every year. But, in the end, although Iowa has some good teams, the norm is mediocrity.Regardless of how strong the Big 10 is this year, what have the Hawks really done? They’ve won one signature game....Ohio State. And I think losing to Indiana twice more than negates the win over the Buckeyes. Three weeks ago, people on this forum were ready to run Fran out of town. Threads like “will this go down as one of the most disappointing seasons ever, the Fran Fade,etc. etc. well,give em credit....they’ve gutted it out. A lot of pOstend have made the comment that if this team doesn’t get to the Sweet 16, this wil go down as a disappointing season. Well, be prepared to be disappointed. The reality of it all is we don’t have a point guard. Well, we have one but he gets minimal minutes and sometimes never sees the court the 2nd half. Undeniably the best player on the court the second half against Gonzaga. But we play a guy at point that cannot break down a defense and blow by anyone. He gets his assists (pretty easy with Garza). And he’ll make a couple threes. Not exactly great numbers for the minutes he plays. But it gets worse. We have another starter that won’t/can’t shoot. Gets very few rebounds for the minutes he given. One of the reasons we spanked Ohio State was he got into foul trouble and Fran was forced to extend Murray’s minutes. And, oh didn’t Joe T have an incedible game running the point for our point guard who isn’t a point guard. (My bad. Already said that. Bottom line is: if Murray and Joe T get more minutes, which they have clearly earned, I like our chances way more.Also, the loss of Nunge, could really hurt us IFwe advance. Also, everyone thinking the Big 10 is so tough, needs to watch some games back in the 80’s. No comparison. And anyone who uses the Iowa-IsU game to compare the Big 10 vs Big 12, needs to retake Basketball 101. So, yes, keep calling me a clown, a troll, a legendary coach,etc. I can take it. I’m a big boy. I’m not going away.
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What’s that? You’re not going away? Well damn that sucks. Wait a minute. What’s this function here? It’s says ignore. I guess you are going away.
 
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yes, as I am allowed to have mine also. You seem to ignore certain things that have happened during the season for Iowa and what other teams have also gone through. OSU has lost 3 in a row recently. Illinois lost a lot in mid January, Iowa lost in early February. But you continue to pile on Iowa and not those teams.... it is weird.
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Well, at least you had the courtesy to explain to me what you disagreed with. Very much appreciated. Yes, all the teams in this conference went through peaks and valleys. In basketball there is an old saying that “in many cases it’s not necessarily who you play next, but when you play them.” So many intangibles come into play. In this conference, you can bring your “A” game and it might not be good enough. It’s a grind and that is a huge advantage for teams that have experienced all the above. When I say it is a grind, you need to be at the top of your both mentally to compete in this conference. With that being said, I think the Big 10 was very strong this year,especially loaded with talented big men. But as the year went along, there became a clear separation of teams. Michigan, Illinois, Iowa, Ohio State clearly the front runners. Purdue is playing well, Wisconsin is taking slide, etc. etc. There are teams in the middle that are good and capable any night of defeating the front runners . There are teams toward the bottom that are scary occasionally. Case in point: I really felt Iowa was very fortunate to win at Rutgers. I thought Rutgers outplayed us until the last 5 minutes. Another example would be when Penn State came to Iowa....very, very hard fought win. There is such a fine line between winning and losing. Then you have those blowouts. Michigan isn’t 20 points better than us and we aren’t 20 point nets better than Ohio State. So, I feel we have 4 teams that could make some hay for the tournament. I’m including Purdue. Other teams will need to play at a higher level .....there could be a team in the bottom half win 2 or even 3 games. Of the top 4, I think Illinois would be my favorite. I gave my reasons in another thread. Michigan would be my next choice. I think with the big guy being a freshman, they are vulnerable, even though that was not the case against Iowa. I really think Iowa, Ohio State have too many weaknesses. Nunge being out is huge. And, although we are playing better defense, I think we have a narrower margin of error when playing really good teams. We have had tremendous play from our bench. But I don’t see us as a great team...,we go into funks (defensive lapses, especially in transition. On our poor shooting nights from the perimeter, teams can too many run outs. Also we have had our share of scoring droughts. I think Ohio State even had more liabilities. In fact , I would put Purdue ahead of them. There you go. I’m probably wrong in my thinking. (I tend to be right about 3 out of 10 times, which doesn’t sound very good, but if I was in the MLB , I’d be batting 300 and in the hall of fame. And let me say this: I don’t suck at life, I’m not a frickin troll, and I sure in hell ain’t a Cyclone fan.
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I have one MAJOR concern about BIG teams in the tournament. Basically, during the regular BIG season, the refs' philosophy is "let 'em play", allowing a lot of grabbing, hooks, and flat-out asaults on rebounds. That might not be allowed in the tourney, and it may be hard for BIG teams to adjust. I think there have been a lot of 50-50 calls that have went in favor of Garza during the season - I hope that continues.
 
bumper52 said:
Well, first of all I’m not a clone. I bleed black and gold. I’m 68 years old. I always get my hopes up every year. But, in the end, although Iowa has some good teams, the norm is mediocrity.Regardless of how strong the Big 10 is this year, what have the Hawks really done? They’ve won one signature game....Ohio State. And I think losing to Indiana twice more than negates the win over the Buckeyes. Three weeks ago, people on this forum were ready to run Fran out of town. Threads like “will this go down as one of the most disappointing seasons ever, the Fran Fade,etc. etc. well,give em credit....they’ve gutted it out. A lot of pOstend have made the comment that if this team doesn’t get to the Sweet 16, this wil go down as a disappointing season. Well, be prepared to be disappointed. The reality of it all is we don’t have a point guard. Well, we have one but he gets minimal minutes and sometimes never sees the court the 2nd half. Undeniably the best player on the court the second half against Gonzaga. But we play a guy at point that cannot break down a defense and blow by anyone. He gets his assists (pretty easy with Garza). And he’ll make a couple threes. Not exactly great numbers for the minutes he plays. But it gets worse. We have another starter that won’t/can’t shoot. Gets very few rebounds for the minutes he given. One of the reasons we spanked Ohio State was he got into foul trouble and Fran was forced to extend Murray’s minutes. And, oh didn’t Joe T have an incedible game running the point for our point guard who isn’t a point guard. (My bad. Already said that. Bottom line is: if Murray and Joe T get more minutes, which they have clearly earned, I like our chances way more.Also, the loss of Nunge, could really hurt us IFwe advance. Also, everyone thinking the Big 10 is so tough, needs to watch some games back in the 80’s. No comparison. And anyone who uses the Iowa-IsU game to compare the Big 10 vs Big 12, needs to retake Basketball 101. So, yes, keep calling me a clown, a troll, a legendary coach,etc. I can take it. I’m a big boy. I’m not going away.
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No one gives a shit whether you go away or not.

You're a failed troll.

Start a new persona and try again, this one is done.
 
bumper52 said:
So, you wanna compare Big 10 to Big 12? You really defected taking about the Hawks mauling the clones. I can do better. Didn’t we lose to Indiana twice? We, the Hoosiers got beat by Texas 66-44. Hmm...Texas is in the Big 12...sitting with a 9-6 record. You wannacompare? Do your homework.
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Well, you were denigrating the Big10, so I made a simple comparison to the second best conference related to Iowa, since it's the Iowa board you know. Not sure why would you skip a direct comparison to go for a third party residual effect comparison, but by the look of most of your posts, it's not really surprising. Again, Iowa beat ISU in their one game, by more than Texas did in both. Seems more relevant again.
 
bumper52 said:
Well, first of all I’m not a clone. I bleed black and gold. I’m 68 years old. I always get my hopes up every year. But, in the end, although Iowa has some good teams, the norm is mediocrity.Regardless of how strong the Big 10 is this year, what have the Hawks really done? They’ve won one signature game....Ohio State. And I think losing to Indiana twice more than negates the win over the Buckeyes. Three weeks ago, people on this forum were ready to run Fran out of town. Threads like “will this go down as one of the most disappointing seasons ever, the Fran Fade,etc. etc. well,give em credit....they’ve gutted it out. A lot of pOstend have made the comment that if this team doesn’t get to the Sweet 16, this wil go down as a disappointing season. Well, be prepared to be disappointed. The reality of it all is we don’t have a point guard. Well, we have one but he gets minimal minutes and sometimes never sees the court the 2nd half. Undeniably the best player on the court the second half against Gonzaga. But we play a guy at point that cannot break down a defense and blow by anyone. He gets his assists (pretty easy with Garza). And he’ll make a couple threes. Not exactly great numbers for the minutes he plays. But it gets worse. We have another starter that won’t/can’t shoot. Gets very few rebounds for the minutes he given. One of the reasons we spanked Ohio State was he got into foul trouble and Fran was forced to extend Murray’s minutes. And, oh didn’t Joe T have an incedible game running the point for our point guard who isn’t a point guard. (My bad. Already said that. Bottom line is: if Murray and Joe T get more minutes, which they have clearly earned, I like our chances way more.Also, the loss of Nunge, could really hurt us IFwe advance. Also, everyone thinking the Big 10 is so tough, needs to watch some games back in the 80’s. No comparison. And anyone who uses the Iowa-IsU game to compare the Big 10 vs Big 12, needs to retake Basketball 101. So, yes, keep calling me a clown, a troll, a legendary coach,etc. I can take it. I’m a big boy. I’m not going away.
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What if we called you Randy Peterson?
 
bumper52 said:
The truly great part of that game was Trice. Nineteen points in the final 2:12. I guess if all teams were playing at the very top of their game, I feel Illinois is the best team in the conference. Not any major weaknesses, although they have struggled at the line at times. The chemistry wasn’t there early in the season as they came out flat in games over a 2-3 week period. But overall, they have great balance of post-perimeter game. They can really turn it up defensively and they have a nice blend of veterans/youth.
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Did your wife type this one for you, this is your only post that isn't drizzling with drunkenness.
 
Sorry for the moron comment. You had no way of knowing. I’ve been beat up on here the last couple of days.
 
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