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Nebraska fires Miles

Can’t imagine why Fred would want to go to Neb, Iowa, Minnesota or any of those. He’s used to the big stage. UCLA is closer to what he needs.

Agreed. These all seem like a lateral move from ISU and a significant step down after the NBA. Maybe he just wants to settle down in small Midwestern town.
 
Honestly I don’t see them stealing a coach from another power 5 conference.

Negatives: They have just a shade more than zero history in basketball. They haven’t had all that much recent success. A good coach at smaller programs didn’t succeed there in 7 years. They have the worst native recruiting ground in the conference. They are in a tough conference to compete in when trying to build up a program.

Positives: They have invested in the program with the new arena. They’ve shown an ability to recruit decent players under Miles. They are in the Big Ten and have access to the money that goes with it.

That is the kind of situation that screams mid-major hire where a guy comes in and makes a lot of money if he doesn’t succeed before moving back to a mid-major or uses it as a springboard to a better job if he does.

I can’t believe Hoiberg would take the job as he hates recruiting. Good luck recruiting to Nebraska. I’m surprised UCLA hasn’t thrown a truckload of money at him. He could do great things at a school that recruits 4 and 5 star talent just by name. Plus he’d be at one of the top dog schools in the PAC 12 that gets the benefit of the doubt come NCAA selection time as opposed to one of the lower tier schools in the Big 10.

Why Hoiberg would take the job:

1) has family connections to Lincoln and the university. I believe his niece was even working in the basketball office on Miles' staff (haven't confirmed that)

2) Nebraska has top rate facilities, practice and game day

3) Huskers play in the best league in the country

4) Because of #3, Nebraska can afford to pay top dollar for Hoiberg and his staff

5) the initial expectations are going to be low compared to other power 5 jobs

6) Nebraska has already shown they can get top transfer players to Lincoln, and that's the style of roster building Hoiberg mastered and won with at Iowa State. Nebraska has some of the lowest admission standards in the B1G and compared to other open power 5 jobs and has a top notch academic support system in place to help those athletes succeed if they need it
 
Why Hoiberg would take the job:

1) has family connections to Lincoln and the university. I believe his niece was even working in the basketball office on Miles' staff (haven't confirmed that)

2) Nebraska has top rate facilities, practice and game day

3) Huskers play in the best league in the country

4) Because of #3, Nebraska can afford to pay top dollar for Hoiberg and his staff

5) the initial expectations are going to be low compared to other power 5 jobs

6) Nebraska has already shown they can get top transfer players to Lincoln, and that's the style of roster building Hoiberg mastered and won with at Iowa State. Nebraska has some of the lowest admission standards in the B1G and compared to other open power 5 jobs and has a top notch academic support system in place to help those athletes succeed if they need it
7. a look-the-other-way AthDept. perfect for hoiburger and his disorderly house players. i bet one of his interview questions is: 'what is the police chief's home phone?'
 
Miles is a great guy and a pretty decent coach. He loses a key player midseason, when his team is competing for the top half of the B1G, and his team can't compensate, so let's fire him. I hope Miles lands another decent coaching job. As always, I hope Little Red remains one of the not-so-great athletic departments in the B1G, which their fans thought they would dominate.
 
He recruited as good and a few better players as compared to Iowa in the past few years!!
 
Why Hoiberg would take the job:

1) has family connections to Lincoln and the university. I believe his niece was even working in the basketball office on Miles' staff (haven't confirmed that)

2) Nebraska has top rate facilities, practice and game day

3) Huskers play in the best league in the country

4) Because of #3, Nebraska can afford to pay top dollar for Hoiberg and his staff

5) the initial expectations are going to be low compared to other power 5 jobs

6) Nebraska has already shown they can get top transfer players to Lincoln, and that's the style of roster building Hoiberg mastered and won with at Iowa State. Nebraska has some of the lowest admission standards in the B1G and compared to other open power 5 jobs and has a top notch academic support system in place to help those athletes succeed if they need it
1. I don’t know anybody that takes a job because of their niece working there. He already ditched his Alma Mater and the city where he was the most famous person to come out of. Why would he care about going to a place he has some light family connections to?
2. Facilities yes, game day I’m not sure if they really are top rate compared to the true top rate schools in the conference. They’re probably more middle of the pack, it is just that anything with a pulse will look top rate compared to ours.
3. No, the ACC is the best b-ball conference. The Big Ten is just the richest conference.
4. Yes.
5. I’m not sure about that. What Miles did wasn’t good enough. The next coach will also be stuck trying to dig out of a hole during an era when the Big Ten is as good top to bottom as it has been since the 80’s.
6. Maybe. But Fred could hold out for a job at a place that doesn’t have to rely upon transfers or bad students to make a team. Like possibly UCLA which has a recruiting bed of more than just its immediate area and has little recruiting competition for any top recruit west of the rockies.
 
Not trying to troll. Just wanted to go through this list and give my opinion on if they'd fit for Nebraska....

Gregg Marshall, Wichita State (I don't think Marshall has any interest in leaving WSU now that they're in a bigger conference, unless it's for a bigger-name job. Iowa wouldn't even land Marshall if Fran left or was fired, and that's the truth.)

Chris Jans, New Mexico State (Would be a decent fit. Longtime assistant coach in the midwest and is a midwest native. 2x WAC COTY. Has never coached in a major conference though.)

Kelvin Sampson, Houston (Gaaaawwwwddd no......)

Nate Oats, Buffalo (More of a splash hire if Nebraska wanted to take a chance. He was successful as a HS coach, and he's turned Buffalo into a winner at basketball :eek:, so he can't be that bad....)

Steve Forbes, East Tennessee State (Smiling politicians do not make for good coaches.......I take that back now that I look at guys like Izzo, Coach K, and Calipari. Hire away and scumbag your way to a basketball dynasty like they did!!!! :))

Craig Smith, Utah State (Actually could be a good hire unless Nebraska wants to wipe their hands completely of Tim Miles' legacy. Smith is a longtime Miles disciple and 4x COTY, including this past year at Utah State. Would help ease the transition, but again would Nebraska rather get someone entirely new or, perhaps, a bigger name if they think they could get that guy)

Tyronn Lue, former Cleveland Cavaliers coach (Would be Nebraska's own hometown hero hire, like Hoiberg was to Iowa State. Though, I would find more amusement in Nebraska hiring Hoiberg....:cool:)

Ben Howland, Mississippi State (Has a good track record and has coached at big schools, but I feel like he'd be more of a transitional hire to setup Nebraska's next coach. He could certainly come in to make Nebraska a more consistent contender to make tournament appearances, but there is going to be a ceiling and with him being 61 years old, he's probably not gonna have a whole lot of time to make that next step from where Nebraska is currently at. That's why he could be more of a table-setter for their next long-term hire.)

Thad Matta, former Ohio State coach (I don't know if Matta would want to return to coaching, especially in the Big Ten.)

Eric Musselman, Nevada (Possibly one the better hires Nebraska could get. Been a coach at the professional level since 1989, and then as an assistant at ASU in 2012. Been the coach at Nevada since 2015 and has won 3 straight MWC titles. Nebraska hiring a proven winner who has had success in both the pros and at the college level and is only 54 is about as good as they could ask for)

Steve Wojciechowski, Marquette (Everyone keeps bringing his name up, but I really hesitate to say he'd be a good hire. He still needs to prove he can get things going at Marquette. 0-2 in the NCAA tournament in 5 seasons.

Johnny Dawkins, Central Florida (Certainly gonna be a rising name, but he's only in his 3rd season at UCF and he has no ties to the midwest, let alone Nebraska. Just don't think he'd be interested in going to a region he's never coached in before.)

Josh Pastner, Georgia Tech (Young coach who has had stints at Arizona and as a HC at Memphis after Calipari left. He's learned under some of the best, so that has to count for something. However, there's been a few off-the-court issues involving GT also that could be a factor. Not sure how much interest he would have in jumping from Georgia Tech to Nebraska after 3 years.)

Porter Moser, Loyola Chicago (Certainly another splash hire given their run to the Final Four, but he seems more like a Ben Jacobson type of guy to me. His biggest name job was as an assistant at Texas A&M, and he's spent 8 seasons building Loyola to where it's at. Like Jacobson, if he was gonna go anywhere, he probably already would have.)

TJ Otzelberger, South Dakota State (A lot of midwest ties and has had some success with the Jackrabbits, but I don't know if he'd be too high on Nebraska's list as a guy they'd turn to to make that jump that Miles could not.)
 
1. I don’t know anybody that takes a job because of their niece working there. He already ditched his Alma Mater and the city where he was the most famous person to come out of. Why would he care about going to a place he has some light family connections to?
2. Facilities yes, game day I’m not sure if they really are top rate compared to the true top rate schools in the conference. They’re probably more middle of the pack, it is just that anything with a pulse will look top rate compared to ours.
3. No, the ACC is the best b-ball conference. The Big Ten is just the richest conference.
4. Yes.
5. I’m not sure about that. What Miles did wasn’t good enough. The next coach will also be stuck trying to dig out of a hole during an era when the Big Ten is as good top to bottom as it has been since the 80’s.
6. Maybe. But Fred could hold out for a job at a place that doesn’t have to rely upon transfers or bad students to make a team. Like possibly UCLA which has a recruiting bed of more than just its immediate area and has little recruiting competition for any top recruit west of the rockies.

He was born in Lincoln, his parents went to school at UNL and his grandfather was the MBB for the Huskers for nine years in the 50s and 60s
 
I'll stack the academic credentials of IOWA up against Nebraska any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

Iowa is a better academic school....no argument from me.

I was just referencing this story from last fall where opposing B1G coaches said Iowa had the lowest admission requirements in the league.
 
Miles is a great guy and a pretty decent coach. He loses a key player midseason, when his team is competing for the top half of the B1G, and his team can't compensate, so let's fire him. I hope Miles lands another decent coaching job. As always, I hope Little Red remains one of the not-so-great athletic departments in the B1G, which their fans thought they would dominate.

Miles was a great spokesperson and was fabulous with the media and fans. He was great at building programs (i.e. North Dakota State, Colorado State and at times Nebraska).

As I stated above, he was offensively challenged and was just not a great X's and O's coach. He struggled to adjust to Power 5 basketball and still hasn't really figured it out. He just did enough to keep his head above water. He had some poor assistants when he first started, got a decent one or two, but couldn't keep them.

His inability to build and maintain decent depth at roster spots #6 through #10 on the bench is probably what did him in the most. The loss of one player (Isaac Copeland) shouldn't have derailed this season.

He left Nebraska in a better position than when he inherited it. Nebraska has thrown a lot of money at facilities and other program resources and now, finally, is going to throw serious money at a coach. Time will tell if it finally takes off in Lincoln or not.
 
So one coach apparently says something ridiculous so we're supposed to believe that....okay, that was a really weird read.

Well all the coaches ranked all the teams in the various categories, and Iowa ranked where they did in that category as a result. I don't know what metric they are measuring by, I just remember seeing that story last fall.
 
I think Fred takes this job.
The expectations at UCLA are a killer of coaches, while at Nebraska they build a statue for a coach who wins their first NCAA game in program history.
Easy,big money for Fred.
 
Miles is young, personable, works hard, and usually has good defense. Sign me up if he wants to be an assistant.
I really wanted him to succeed at Nebraska. Such a likeable guy. Seems to have the proper perspective on life as well. Down to earth. If you watched his Husker teams, the thing that caused the most problem for him over the years was a lack of identity on offense. He did a lot of things right, including brought good talent to Lincoln, but the inability to be more productive offensively was what did him in. Great guy, I hope he does well wherever he goes. But he deserves to relax and enjoy time with his family.
 
I think Fred takes this job.
The expectations at UCLA are a killer of coaches, while at Nebraska they build a statue for a coach who wins their first NCAA game in program history.
Easy,big money for Fred.
Hoiberg isn't afraid of expectations. He took the IA State job, didn't he? UCLA actually makes the most sense. Deeper pockets and a much easier conference to dominate, plus the school's history recruits for him.
 
Nebraska has much deeper pockets than UCLA with BTN money and football money. UCLA is hurting financially.
ISU was special for Fred,obviously and Nebraska is similarly connected as his birthplace.
NBA job is probably his preference but if not then I bet he lands at Nebraska.
 
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So I don't get this at all. Hoiberg is willing to come back to the NCAA level, which seems to fly in the face of what ISU fans told us on this site.

I'm still 100% convinced that ISU fans want Hoiberg more than anybody else as a coach, but I guess they decided to double down on Prohm given the Alabama angle.
Hoiberg said he doesn't like recruiting, ISU fans didn't say that. Pretty sure that would mean to anybody that getting back into college coaching might be a long shot.
 
Hoiberg said he doesn't like recruiting, ISU fans didn't say that. Pretty sure that would mean to anybody that getting back into college coaching might be a long shot.

Unless of course he has a plan...

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Nebraska would be smart to offer the same. Only have to pay it out about once every never.
Lol! The fact Iowa pays out a huge bonus for the "great" achievement of 8 wins is funny. You have to admit KF's contract is a bit ridiculous.

NU won 9+ games in 8 of the 10 seasons under Pelini and Riley. I don't think winning 8 games will be a challenge for Frost moving forward.
 
Lol! The fact Iowa pays out a huge bonus for the "great" achievement of 8 wins is funny. You have to admit KF's contract is a bit ridiculous.

NU won 9+ games in 8 of the 10 seasons under Pelini and Riley. I don't think winning 8 games will be a challenge for Frost moving forward.
Paying 3 head coaches to win 4 games is ridiculous. No it's laughable.
 
Hoiberg said he doesn't like recruiting, ISU fans didn't say that. Pretty sure that would mean to anybody that getting back into college coaching might be a long shot.
This is Hoiberg's quote from January:

Hoiberg said he will keep an open mind in searching for his next basketball job.

"I am not prioritizing one over the other in respect to the NBA and college," Hoiberg said. "The jobs are so different that you cannot compare them, so I plan on evaluating whatever opportunities may come independently."
 
Nebraska has much deeper pockets than UCLA with BTN money and football money. UCLA is hurting financially.
ISU was special for Fred,obviously and Nebraska is similarly connected as his birthplace.
NBA job is probably his preference but if not then I bet he lands at Nebraska.
Uh, not when it comes to basketball. UCLA has some very rich boosters who would ante up for a name like Hoiberg.
 
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