i just hate our 4-10 Quadrant 1 record; i wonder how ugly it looks to the Selection committee?
NET Ranking: On March 17, Iowa is #43. How NET is Determined & What's a QUAD 1, 2, 3 & 4 Win/Loss
- Thread starter Franisdaman
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Lets face it; who cares about the AP Poll or the Coaches poll? Those polls don't matter when it comes to whether you get selected to the NCAA Tournament or not.
What matters is your NET Ranking and the Quad 1 & Quad 2 wins you have.
The original post has been updated with what follows.
Today (March 17) Iowa is #43 in the NET Rankings. Right now are we looking at an 8, 9, or 10 (?!?) seed for the NCAA Tournament?
TWO things will be used by the NCAA Selection Committee when selecting the NCAA Tournament Teams & then seeding them:
(1) The NET ranking, an index that incorporates the most current evaluation measures; and
(2) A tighter definition of a quality win, classifying wins as Quad 1, Quad 2, Quad 3 and Quad 4.
The hope is that by using (1) and (2) we will have a more accurate selection and seeding procedure.
The quadrant system will still be used on team sheets, which sort results in the following manner:
To date, WHAT FOLLOWS are the Iowa (22-11) Quadrant WINS & LOSSES. NOTE that:
* The date of the opponent's NET Ranking is listed.
* Similar to the NET ranking, a Quad 1 win on the date listed might not be a Quad 1 win TODAY or in mid March (there has been fluidity). Time will tell.
SORTING OF #43 (NET Rank) IOWA'S RESULTS (22-11) INTO THE 4 QUADS:
Quadrant 1 (4-10): Home vs a 1-30 team, Neutral site vs 1-50, Away vs 1-75.
WINS
# 24 on Jan 16 (H) Iowa State
#60 on Feb 23; #84 on Jan 17 (A) Penn State
#2 on Jan 17 Michigan (H)
#54 on Feb 23; #30 on Jan 17 Indiana (A)
LOSSES
# 20 on Jan 16 (H) Wisconsin
#7 on Jan 16 (A) Michigan State
#17 on Jan 16 (A) Purdue
#6 on Jan 17 Michigan State (H)
#63 on Jan 17 Minnesota (A)
#21 on Jan 17 Maryland (H)
#36 on Jan 17 Ohio State (A)
#22 on Jan 17 Wisconsin (A)
#46 on Feb 23; #11 on Jan 17 Nebraska (A)
#9 on March 16 Michigan (B1G Tourney, Neutral site)
Quadrant 2 (7-0): Home vs a 31-75, Neutral site vs 51-100, Away vs 76-135.
WINS
#77 on Jan 16 (N) Oregon
#88 on Jan 16 (N) UConn
#85 on Feb 23; # 58 on Jan 16 (A) Northwestern
# 36 on Jan 16 (H) Ohio State
#46 on Feb 23; # 10 on Jan 16 (H) Nebraska
#109 on Feb 23; #136 on Jan 17 Rutgers (A)
#54 on Feb 23; #30 on Jan 17 Indiana (H)
Quadrant 3 (5-1): Home vs a 76-160, Neutral site vs 101-200, Away vs 135-240.
WINS
#112 on Feb 23; #53 on Jan 16 (H) Pittsburgh
#169 on Feb 23; #217 on Jan 16 (N) UNI
#99 on Jan 17 Illinois (H)
#85 on Feb 23; #59 on Jan 17 Northwestern (H)
#109 on March 15 Illinois (B1G Tourney, Neutral site)
LOSSES
#94 on March 3; #109 on Feb 23; #136 on Jan 17 Rutgers (H)
Quadrant 4 (6-0): Home vs a 161-353, Neutral vs 201-353, Away vs 241-353
WINS
#234 on Jan 16 (H) UMKC
#192 on Jan 16 (H) Green Bay
#324 on Jan 16 (H) Alabama State
#269 on Jan 16 (H) Western Carolina
#343 on Jan 16 (H) Savannah State
#316 on Jan 16 (H) Bryant
0 games left on the reg season schedule:
Quadrant 1 (0 games): Home vs a 1-30 team, Neutral site vs 1-50, Away vs 1-75
NONE LEFT ON THE SCHEDULE
.
Quadrant 2 (0 games): Home vs a 31-75, Neutral site vs 51-100, Away vs 76-135.
NONE LEFT ON THE SCHEDULE
Quadrant 3 (0 games): Home vs a 76-160, Neutral site vs 101-200, Away vs 135-240.
NONE LEFT ON THE SCHEDULE
Quadrant 4 (0 games): Home vs a 161-353, Neutral vs 201-353, Away vs 241-353
NONE LEFT ON THE SCHEDULE
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Previous NET Rankings for Iowa (notice the fluidity):
#43 on March 17 (SELECTION SUNDAY) after TWO TEAMS IOWA BEAT (Iowa State & Oregon) won their conf championship AND Michigan & Mich State (IOWA was 1-3 vs them) advanced to the BTT Championship
#44 on March 16 (after losing to #9 Michigan in BTT)
#41 on March 15 (after beating #109 Illinois in BTT)
#43 on March 14
#42 on March 11 (day after loss AT Nebraska)
#43 on March 10
#45 on March 8
#41 on March 7
#40 on March 5
#41 on March 3 & 4
#33 on Feb 28 (was idle)
#32 on Feb 27 (day after loss AT Ohio St)
#30 on Feb 22, 23 and 24
#29 on Feb 13 & 14
#26 on Feb 10, 11 & 12
#24 on Feb 7
#22 on Feb 2 (after Feb 1's 15 pt home win vs Michigan)
#27 on Jan 30 & Jan 31
#28 on Jan 29
#30 on Jan 28
#25 on Jan 27
#24 on Jan 26
#22 on Jan 23
#25 on Jan 22
#25 on Jan 19
#24 on Jan 18
#29 on Jan 13
#35 on Jan 12
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To see all teams' NET Rankings & quadrant results, open the link that follows, scroll down on the page that comes up & on the far right you will see NET Team Sheets - Games through [date]. Click on the most recent link or a previous date.
LINK: https://extra.ncaa.org/solutions/rpi/SitePages/Home.aspx
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ALL B1G TEAMS' CURRENT (MARCH 17) NET RANKINGS:
Rank..Previous..Road..Neutral..Home..Non Div 1
8 8 Michigan St. Big Ten 27-6 8-4 4-1 15-1 0-0
9 9 Michigan Big Ten 28-5 7-4 4-0 17-1 0-0
12 12 Purdue Big Ten 23-9 6-6 2-3 15-0 0-0
17 17 Wisconsin Big Ten 23-10 8-5 3-2 12-3 0-0
27 27 Maryland Big Ten 22-10 6-5 1-2 15-3 0-0
43 44 Iowa Big Ten 22-11 4-6 4-1 14-4 0-0
48 48 Nebraska Big Ten 18-16 2-9 4-2 11-5 1-0
50 49 Penn St. Big Ten 14-18 4-9 1-3 9-6 0-0
54 53 Indiana Big Ten 17-15 3-9 1-1 13-5 0-0
55 55 Ohio St. Big Ten 19-14 5-7 2-1 12-6 0-0
61 57 Minnesota Big Ten 21-13 2-9 6-1 13-3 0-0
89 88 Northwestern Big Ten 13-19 1-9 2-2 10-8 0-0
101 100 Rutgers Big Ten 14-17 4-9 0-1 10-7 0-0
109 109 Illinois Big Ten 12-21 1-9 2-5 9-7 0-0
What matters is your NET Ranking and the Quad 1 & Quad 2 wins you have.
The original post has been updated with what follows.
Today (March 17) Iowa is #43 in the NET Rankings. Right now are we looking at an 8, 9, or 10 (?!?) seed for the NCAA Tournament?
TWO things will be used by the NCAA Selection Committee when selecting the NCAA Tournament Teams & then seeding them:
(1) The NET ranking, an index that incorporates the most current evaluation measures; and
(2) A tighter definition of a quality win, classifying wins as Quad 1, Quad 2, Quad 3 and Quad 4.
The hope is that by using (1) and (2) we will have a more accurate selection and seeding procedure.
The quadrant system will still be used on team sheets, which sort results in the following manner:
To date, WHAT FOLLOWS are the Iowa (22-11) Quadrant WINS & LOSSES. NOTE that:
* The date of the opponent's NET Ranking is listed.
* Similar to the NET ranking, a Quad 1 win on the date listed might not be a Quad 1 win TODAY or in mid March (there has been fluidity). Time will tell.
SORTING OF #43 (NET Rank) IOWA'S RESULTS (22-11) INTO THE 4 QUADS:
Quadrant 1 (4-10): Home vs a 1-30 team, Neutral site vs 1-50, Away vs 1-75.
WINS
# 24 on Jan 16 (H) Iowa State
#60 on Feb 23; #84 on Jan 17 (A) Penn State
#2 on Jan 17 Michigan (H)
#54 on Feb 23; #30 on Jan 17 Indiana (A)
LOSSES
# 20 on Jan 16 (H) Wisconsin
#7 on Jan 16 (A) Michigan State
#17 on Jan 16 (A) Purdue
#6 on Jan 17 Michigan State (H)
#63 on Jan 17 Minnesota (A)
#21 on Jan 17 Maryland (H)
#36 on Jan 17 Ohio State (A)
#22 on Jan 17 Wisconsin (A)
#46 on Feb 23; #11 on Jan 17 Nebraska (A)
#9 on March 16 Michigan (B1G Tourney, Neutral site)
Quadrant 2 (7-0): Home vs a 31-75, Neutral site vs 51-100, Away vs 76-135.
WINS
#77 on Jan 16 (N) Oregon
#88 on Jan 16 (N) UConn
#85 on Feb 23; # 58 on Jan 16 (A) Northwestern
# 36 on Jan 16 (H) Ohio State
#46 on Feb 23; # 10 on Jan 16 (H) Nebraska
#109 on Feb 23; #136 on Jan 17 Rutgers (A)
#54 on Feb 23; #30 on Jan 17 Indiana (H)
Quadrant 3 (5-1): Home vs a 76-160, Neutral site vs 101-200, Away vs 135-240.
WINS
#112 on Feb 23; #53 on Jan 16 (H) Pittsburgh
#169 on Feb 23; #217 on Jan 16 (N) UNI
#99 on Jan 17 Illinois (H)
#85 on Feb 23; #59 on Jan 17 Northwestern (H)
#109 on March 15 Illinois (B1G Tourney, Neutral site)
LOSSES
#94 on March 3; #109 on Feb 23; #136 on Jan 17 Rutgers (H)
Quadrant 4 (6-0): Home vs a 161-353, Neutral vs 201-353, Away vs 241-353
WINS
#234 on Jan 16 (H) UMKC
#192 on Jan 16 (H) Green Bay
#324 on Jan 16 (H) Alabama State
#269 on Jan 16 (H) Western Carolina
#343 on Jan 16 (H) Savannah State
#316 on Jan 16 (H) Bryant
0 games left on the reg season schedule:
Quadrant 1 (0 games): Home vs a 1-30 team, Neutral site vs 1-50, Away vs 1-75
NONE LEFT ON THE SCHEDULE
.
Quadrant 2 (0 games): Home vs a 31-75, Neutral site vs 51-100, Away vs 76-135.
NONE LEFT ON THE SCHEDULE
Quadrant 3 (0 games): Home vs a 76-160, Neutral site vs 101-200, Away vs 135-240.
NONE LEFT ON THE SCHEDULE
Quadrant 4 (0 games): Home vs a 161-353, Neutral vs 201-353, Away vs 241-353
NONE LEFT ON THE SCHEDULE
_______________________________
Previous NET Rankings for Iowa (notice the fluidity):
#43 on March 17 (SELECTION SUNDAY) after TWO TEAMS IOWA BEAT (Iowa State & Oregon) won their conf championship AND Michigan & Mich State (IOWA was 1-3 vs them) advanced to the BTT Championship
#44 on March 16 (after losing to #9 Michigan in BTT)
#41 on March 15 (after beating #109 Illinois in BTT)
#43 on March 14
#42 on March 11 (day after loss AT Nebraska)
#43 on March 10
#45 on March 8
#41 on March 7
#40 on March 5
#41 on March 3 & 4
#33 on Feb 28 (was idle)
#32 on Feb 27 (day after loss AT Ohio St)
#30 on Feb 22, 23 and 24
#29 on Feb 13 & 14
#26 on Feb 10, 11 & 12
#24 on Feb 7
#22 on Feb 2 (after Feb 1's 15 pt home win vs Michigan)
#27 on Jan 30 & Jan 31
#28 on Jan 29
#30 on Jan 28
#25 on Jan 27
#24 on Jan 26
#22 on Jan 23
#25 on Jan 22
#25 on Jan 19
#24 on Jan 18
#29 on Jan 13
#35 on Jan 12
_______________________________
To see all teams' NET Rankings & quadrant results, open the link that follows, scroll down on the page that comes up & on the far right you will see NET Team Sheets - Games through [date]. Click on the most recent link or a previous date.
LINK: https://extra.ncaa.org/solutions/rpi/SitePages/Home.aspx
_______________________________
ALL B1G TEAMS' CURRENT (MARCH 17) NET RANKINGS:
Rank..Previous..Road..Neutral..Home..Non Div 1
8 8 Michigan St. Big Ten 27-6 8-4 4-1 15-1 0-0
9 9 Michigan Big Ten 28-5 7-4 4-0 17-1 0-0
12 12 Purdue Big Ten 23-9 6-6 2-3 15-0 0-0
17 17 Wisconsin Big Ten 23-10 8-5 3-2 12-3 0-0
27 27 Maryland Big Ten 22-10 6-5 1-2 15-3 0-0
43 44 Iowa Big Ten 22-11 4-6 4-1 14-4 0-0
48 48 Nebraska Big Ten 18-16 2-9 4-2 11-5 1-0
50 49 Penn St. Big Ten 14-18 4-9 1-3 9-6 0-0
54 53 Indiana Big Ten 17-15 3-9 1-1 13-5 0-0
55 55 Ohio St. Big Ten 19-14 5-7 2-1 12-6 0-0
61 57 Minnesota Big Ten 21-13 2-9 6-1 13-3 0-0
89 88 Northwestern Big Ten 13-19 1-9 2-2 10-8 0-0
101 100 Rutgers Big Ten 14-17 4-9 0-1 10-7 0-0
109 109 Illinois Big Ten 12-21 1-9 2-5 9-7 0-0
Oregon winning helped Iowa I think. Prior to that I don’t think Iowa had any wins away from carver against a team that was going to be in the tourney.
Can NET be manipulated via scheduling moving forward? The reason I ask? Nebraska scheduled a more difficult schedule this year and seem to be paying for it. What did Nebraska do wrong besides not winning enough games?
They must be thinking "how the hell is Minnesota in the Big Dance with a NET that low??"
Rank..Previous..Road..Neutral..Home..Non Div 1
43 44 Iowa Big Ten 22-11 4-6 4-1 14-4 0-0
48 48 Nebraska Big Ten 18-16 2-9 4-2 11-5 1-0
50 49 Penn St. Big Ten 14-18 4-9 1-3 9-6 0-0
54 53 Indiana Big Ten 17-15 3-9 1-1 13-5 0-0
55 55 Ohio St. Big Ten 19-14 5-7 2-1 12-6 0-0
61 57 Minnesota Big Ten 21-13 2-9 6-1 13-3 0-0
Iowa ended up around #40 when it came to Tournament seeding.
Looks like the NET (Iowa was #43 today) played a huge factor in Iowa's 10 seed.
Everyone/all the bracketologists were expecting an 8 or 9 seed.
Interesting.
Looks like the NET (Iowa was #43 today) played a huge factor in Iowa's 10 seed.
Everyone/all the bracketologists were expecting an 8 or 9 seed.
Interesting.
this is how the Tournament Selection Committee ranked both teams:
37 IOWA
27 Cincinnati
NET is part of the selection & seeding process. But look at this:
NOTABLE SNUBS
#33 NET, NC State, 22-11
#35 NET, Clemson, 19-13
SHOULD THESE TEAMS BE IN?
57 NET / 38 Tourney rank, Seton Hall, 20-13
61 NET / 39 Tourney rank, Minnesota, 21-13
73 NET/ 47 Tourney rank, St Johns 21-12
NET...Tourney
Rank/ Rank
3 / 1 Duke
1 / 2 Virginia
7 / 3 N Carolina
2 / 4 Gonzaga
5 / 5 Tennessee
8 / 6 Michigan State
6 / 7 Kentucky
9 / 8 Michigan
4 / 9 Houston
10 / 10 Texas Tech
14 / 11 LSU
12 / 12 Purdue
20 / 13 Kansas
16 / 14 Florida State
24 / 15 Kansas State
11 / 16 Virginia Tech
28 / 17 Marquette
18 / 18 Auburn
17 / 19 Wisconsin
19 / 20 Miss State
26 / 21 Villanova
27 / 22 Maryland
15 / 23 Buffalo
21 / 24 Iowa State
22 / 25 Louisville
23 / 26 Nevada
25 / 27 Cincinnati
13 / 28 Wofford
34 / 29 VCU
42 / 30 Syracuse
36 / 31 Ole Mis
29 / 32 Utah State
45 / 33 Washington
30 / 34 UCF
39 / 35 Baylor
37 / 36 Oklahoma
43 / 37 IOWA
57 / 38 Seton Hall
61 / 39 Minnesota
31 / 40 Florida
55 / 41 Ohio State
47 / 42 Belmont
56 / 43 Temple
32 / 44 St Marys
63 / 45 Arizona St
44 / 46 Murray St
73 / 47 St Johns
51 / 48 Oregon
40 / 49 New Mexico St
58 / 50 Liberty
68 / 51 UC Irivine
71 / 52 Vermont
103 / 53 St Louis
78 / 54 Northeastern
86 / 55 Yale
100 / 56 Old Dominion
121 / 57 Georgia St
115 / 58 N Kentucky
124 / 59 Montana
132 / 60 Colgate
176 / 61 Bradley
154 / 62 Abilene Christian
173 / 63 Gardner Webb
202 / 64 IONA
205 / 65 Prairie View
203 / 66 Farileigh Dickinson
222 / 67 North Dakota State
302 / 68 NC Central
