We are out of the Gonzaga region! Now a #2 seed in Baylor's region!
The varying states of NCAA tournament Bracketology (espn.com)
The varying states of NCAA tournament Bracketology (espn.com)
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Not sure that’s any better.......
I like our matchups to get to the S16 as a 2 compared to a 3. Playing Fran's old school (Siena, then VCU or FL) I would sign up for that today!
As would I, but I want to see a deep run made by this team. Deeper than S16.
Pretty good for a team that "might only win 1 more game" a few weeks ago.
Doesn't that link out as a 3 seed in Gonzaga region? Weird that Houston is still a 2 after losing to Wichita State isn't it?
If Iowa lands on the 2 line, I don’t care who the #1 is - they couldn’t play before the Elite 8.
Need to win 3 of the next 4 to get a 2 imo. I’d love to win all 4. That would bump us up to a high 2, potentially even get us back to that borderline 1 (highly highly unlikely we got a 1, I’m just looking through black and gold glasses).
Yeah, if Iowa is a 2 they need to stay out of Baylor and Gonzaga's bracket for a better shot at the Final Four. I think Iowa though has a chance to get to the 1. If you win 3 of 4 and do well in the conference tourney they should move to the one. I also think, when fully healthy, Iowa is the second best team next to Michigan in the Big Ten. Only give Michigan a slight edge because of their defense.
If we win out, beating Michigan and Ohio state, and winning BIG tournament we would definitely have a shot at a #1 seed. But those are BIG IFS.
A total "duh" comment, but I'm less worried about what seed they're playing and more worried about how they're playing. When this team is firing on all, or even most, cylinders, they can play with--and beat--anyone. When they aren't, they are able to be beaten by almost anyone. I don't want to overreact to the last two games, like we all can and have to their 'slump', so I won't say they've 'righted the ship', but if they can keep up what they're doing....
Houston is way overrated.
I don't think they need to win out and win the tournament to get a #1 seed. The committee does take injuries in to account. And I think Illinois and OSU could drop a couple games. If Iowa goes 3 of 4 with the only loss to Michigan and then does well in the tournament they should be a 1 becaause that should put them in the top 4 of Net and they will be top 4 KP.
If we win out and win the B10 championship, we are a lock for a #1 seed. Would have some combination of 4 wins against Michigan, OSU, Illinois and Michigan or OSU again in the span of two weeks.
Now do I think that will happen? Of course not, I've lived here too long.
It's difficult to see how anything short of winning out would get them to the 1 line. That's assuming there is a BTT and that is part of the winning out scenario as well.
Lose to both mich and tosu, but win the others and win 2 games in the BTT(if played) would seem to be a more plausible outcome. Are they on the 4 line with that resume?
Iowa is #3 in kenpom, and number 5 in NET.
If they win out the regular season, they should be a 2 at worst, and I think they would deserve a 1, even if they flame out in tourney. If they win out + win B10, they should be a 1 and nobody should have a complaint. I dont know if the committe still does, but they used to take injuries into account, and Iowa's stats are pretty clearly different w/wo CJF, even if its not always obvious from his stat line .
Edit: thats what i get for taking too long to type - 3 people making my point right before me
If they win out the regular season, they should be a 2 at worst, and I think they would deserve a 1, even if they flame out in tourney. If they win out + win B10, they should be a 1 and nobody should have a complaint. I dont know if the committe still does, but they used to take injuries into account, and Iowa's stats are pretty clearly different w/wo CJF, even if its not always obvious from his stat line .
Edit: thats what i get for taking too long to type - 3 people making my point right before me
I would rather player Baylor if I had to choose. Gonzaga keeps getting better. Right now they have the best rating on Kenpom of any team since Kenpom started in 2002 and its not very close. Crazy thing is the Baylor team this year is one of the best as well. Probably top 5. The efficiency margin difference between #1Gonzaga and #3 Iowa is about 8. I think the biggest difference between 1 and 3 before that was about 5.5. If Iowa though can keep Frederick healthy, their defense is better with him and that margin can decrease. I do see the worry with Baylor though because their 3 guards are all really good two way players. and can score from in the lane and from beyond the ark. Their PG, Mitchell is just nasty on defense.
I think 7 is the record, could be wrong. It's happened several times over the past 20 years.
Just play and win,.. I don't care how we get seeded.
Plus the ACC & Big East may have never been worse. Kentucky sucks, Kansas isn't good. The Big 12 has several very good teams, but the Big 10 is challenging for the most dominant conference ever (not absolute, but relative to other conferences that year).
The last time the NCAA had a tournament. Here are the 1 seeds with 6 or more losses in the last 10 years:
2019 UNC (27-6)
2018 Kansas (27-7)
2017 UNC (27-7)
2016 Oregon (28-6)
2016 UNC (28-6)
2016 Virginia (26-7)
2014 Virginia (28-6)
2013 Indiana (27-6)
2012 Michigan St (27-7)
yeah I believe KU had 7 in 2018. The number of losses isn't prohibitive because it id depending on strength of schedule and who the losses were to.
Weezy shooting like he has been is the difference IMO.
And they have been playing better defensively.
It's imperative that someone from the B1G wins the whole thing this year. The B1G is widely lauded as the best conference year-in, year-out, but their best teams seem to get so close but fall short. The SEC doesn't have that problem in football - they don't always win the whole thing, but they win often enough to back up the claim that they're the toughest conference.
There are several teams in the B1G that can win it all (Michigan, Ohio State, Illinois, Iowa). Wisconsin and Purdue can get hot and/or favorable brackets and make deep runs too.
If we can stay on the 2/3 seed line heading into Madness the path to the 2nd weekend is vastly easier, keep playing hard fellas! The focus on D the past 4 games is refreshing and will raise our ceiling so much higher!
Beat PSU, Nebby and Wisky and split between Michigan/OSU and Iowa is probably assured a 2. I don't really care what bracket they are in as a 2/3. If they are playing a #1 seed, it's in the Elite 8 and will mean that Iowa has been playing well down the stretch and in the tournament.
UVA is the worst possible 3 seed to get paired with. Their style of play presents serious issues.
They play like Wisconsin. We match up well with that type of team.
These measures of win/loss totals are kind of irrelevant with the season being shorter for most teams this year.
Not really, Iowa basically lost the ability to play a handful of buy games.
If we played a full non conference schedule this season, we would have the same number of losses as we do now.
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Its tough either way. Gonzaga reminds me of Iowa, but more athletic. Baylor is extremely athletic and is one of the best shooting teams in the country. I might take Baylor, if only because they have not seen us before. Though we have not seen them either
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Its tough either way. Gonzaga reminds me of Iowa, but more athletic. Baylor is extremely athletic and is one of the best shooting teams in the country. I might take Baylor, if only because they have not seen us before. Though we have not seen them either
Tough to say. I do feel like we got one of Gonzaga's best shooting days and still hung within 10ish. Suggs had one of the best all around games I had seen in about 10 years in CBB that day.
Yep, I watched Virginia their last 2 games and if we are hitting our avg from 3 we will beat them.
True, but UVA tends to get better athletes than Wisconsin. Doesn't mean that they're not beatable (far from it), but it would be a tougher out than Wisky.
Maybe for Iowa but not the case for all teams so kind of makes the measure irrelevant. ACC has had a number of conference games canceled Michigan missed multiple weeks just to a name a couple examples.
