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I agree, the problem is there are a handful of other programs that have not only pushed us...but surpassed us....Dresser making ISU into a powerhouse in a state that already has 2 other D-1 programs fighting over a very small wrestling population.
Way better? I think we can debate this now...
I guess were going to have to fight our asses off like we did back when Gable and Nichols went at it. I kind of like it. Those Iowa/ISU meets really sharpened us up back in the day.
This is also going to be a shot in the arm for Iowa high school wrestling.
Everyone knows Metcalf is awesome, and definitely has an incredible resume, but that doesn't automatically make him a great coach. I absolutely guarantee that ISU will not pass Iowa by.
Ok, why would he take a volunteer job over a paying job at the OTC? Any way we can add to the coaching staff as it currently is to add riding and help 157-184?
Im a little salty by it! We continue to talk and preach offense offense and scoring more points with our offense but have assistants that are not known for their offense. Love TNT and hope they feel very comfortable and confident in what they have. In my mind im sure they were consulted by metcalf prior to his joining dresser and all felt this move was best for both parties. Id like to hope so anyway!
Ok, staff looks good on paper. Paper never won a wrestling match.
Pretty much this. Sucks that they have Metcalf, but them have Zaddick and DSJ doesn't really make me quake in my boots. Pretty much the same staff he had at Vtech with the exception of Robie/Metcalf.
My understanding is that Metcalf will be running the RTC in addition to Volunteer Coach and it will be well paid. Guess we will find out tomorrow.
Step 1: be a good recruiter (Being Brent Metcalf is name recognition by the likes very few can surpass with current HS kids)
Step 2: be a good coach (see step 1)
this is not good
In this scenario, you still get a salary as volunteer assistant, it just doesn't come from the program because there are a limited number of paid assistant spots per NCAA rules. Usually they are paid by the associated wrestling club.
Not sure I agree there. It seemed our recruiting went down after Schwab left and then picked back up once M* got rolling.
I'm a Hawk fan first but a purist, as well, and we need a technical, offensive, big name middleweight coach. Taylor's the guy, IMO, still competing or not.
Based on college placement, but nothing tangible from a coaching perspective. I guess time will tell
Tom/Terry > entire ISU coaching staff
Meh....I won't be losing any sleep tonight over the recent ISU hires. It's not like a lot of top recruits were rushing to Iowa to train with him, when he was wrestling for the HWC the past 5 or so years.
This is a valid point. His current position is a little more formal, and we'll see what type of salesman he is. As a volunteer assistant, he is not permitted to make recruiting trips or in home visits.
Could we have offered Brent the HWC coaching spot and have Terry just be the associate head coach to Tom?
Exactly, he has been in our room this whole time. He is a known name but heck, he really got bashed so much by the haters for the Caldwell thing and for not doing as well on the international front.
Brent is essentially in the same position that Berhow is for us. The problem is that if we replace Berhow with Brent, we wouldn't have a coach above 165 lbs. We'd have to replace M* as well to get some coaching balance, and that would be putting a lot of faith in a guy that hasn't shown he can recruit or coach (Metcalf). It would also really hurt us in the short term with recruits that have a relationship with M*
What does Berhow bring to the table beside a beard ? Our upper weights still stink like they always have since Mocco. Time for some new exciting blood !!
If the HWC was not ham strung by the U of I in regards to making a lot of money we could have.
I'm not sure if this post is serious. Stoll made huge leaps before getting injured, which can't be blamed on Ben. Burak got better every single year and was a 3x AA. Ben also coached a guy named Tony Nelson to a couple of championships.
Give Metcalf a couple years under Dresser's leadership and I think he will do quite fine
with both recruiting and coaching. The future is definitely looking better for ISU with this coaching staff.
You are the same guy that said our coaches are better than Iowa States. Tom and Terry coach the little guys, 25-41. M* coaches 49-84 and Berhow coaches the big boys. Zadick is a great coach but not on Tom or Terry's level. That is the only spot our Hawks win. Metcalf is head and shoulders above M* and StJohn had a far better career. They will coach 49-84. Huge advantage clowns. Dresser is ISU'S big coach, he is better than Ben and has proven to be a great developer of talent. We need some new blood.
I don't disagree. Simply stating that the decision isn't as cut and dry as many would like to make it seem. A lot of factors and moving parts.
The same Tony Nelson that EVERY SINGLE hawk fan complained about being the most boring wrestler in the country. Nelson was one of the strongest guys in the country, that is why he won 2 titles, not because he was a dynamic wrestler.
As others have pointed out he will get his money from the RTC gig.
He also takes the volunteer assistant roll so that he can legally roll with the guys in the college room and coach from the chair during competition. I'm not sure but it may also allow him to do some recruiting.
The better programs are definitely thinking outside of the box with money, recruiting and training situations. It would not shock me if ISU was a top 5 program within a handful of years.
Well it's been stated by those at vt(and I think he said it in his hiring press conference) that he doesn't get on the mat and wrestle the guys, so I hope he's all they have for a heavy coach.
dynamic? No, but being strong doesn't alone win you two titles. You're head is in the sand if you don't think Berhow is a good upperweight coach.
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Except, Metcalf is young and still in competition shape. The Brands brothers are fantastic coaches and I am perfectly happy to have them both coaching at Iowa, but it would be nice to have a young coach who is still competing at the world class level. Iowa doesn't have that.
That was a shot at Nelson, not Ben. I know Ben is a great coach. I have watched him roll with Stoll numerous times. I would be willing to take a chance letting Telford roll with Stoll and train at the HWC while adding Metcalf and McDonough to our Staff.
The past few years just makes me smh at Iowas head in the sand approach. TnT and Iowa administrations lack of forward thinking is really tiresome. It seems TnT has been a 2-3 steps behind other top programs for some time
Continued future of Iowa is a top 3-5 program.
Continued future of Iowa is a top 3-5 program.
What are you doing to help the cause? I hope that anyone complaining is also an active donor to the HWC. Not that I'm a fan of complaining, but if you're just sitting on your hands and complaining, it's all the more unseemly.
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