And that is why Guns are the number one killer of children under the age of 18 - higher than even vehicular deaths. At some point we need to curb this, and if this involves more restrictions on guns I am all for it.
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And not once has the government come to your house to take them away.
You know that's a bullshit stat right? Go find that number and I assure you it will be linked back to a study that shows 19 year olds included in the firearm deaths of minors where as it does not include 18 years old car accident numbers.
I had no idea fear and emotions could fire a weapon. One of these days you lefties might get that a gun won't fire itself. I'm not a gun owner, and I don't plan on owning any, I've seen what they can do, I've used them appropriately, I've held one for hours on end... never once would it fire without some action on my part.
Read the thread, you don't start by showing up. First you change the laws to pretend you have a reason to show up.
Child and Teen Firearm Mortality in the U.S. and Peer Countries | KFF
Firearms were responsible for 20 percent of all child and teen deaths in the U.S. for both 2020 and 2021, compared to an average of less than 2 percent in similarly large and wealthy nations. This puts the U.S. far ahead of peer nations in child and teen firearm deaths.
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Nope ages 1-17, swing and a miss again.
Please go back and read the 2A. Also read the Heller, McDonald, and Bruen SCOTUS decisions. "The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
So then why aren't airports open carry? Why do they have metal detectors going to any sporting event? Why do you not understand that the public extends to both of these.
And yet there are many examples of gun control that are permitted.
From your article:Child and Teen Firearm Mortality in the U.S. and Peer Countries | KFF
Firearms were responsible for 20 percent of all child and teen deaths in the U.S. for both 2020 and 2021, compared to an average of less than 2 percent in similarly large and wealthy nations. This puts the U.S. far ahead of peer nations in child and teen firearm deaths.
Nope ages 1-17, swing and a miss again.
In 2020 and 2021, firearms were involved in more deaths for children and teens (ages 1-19 years) in the United States than any other type of injury or illness.
It all leads back to that study, which they ****ing love to bury. If you scroll to the bottom and open up the cdv link it's inside.
As soon as you make it 1-18 it's auto accidents.
Now, if you want to talk about our suicide problems, I'm all ears.
Security in this sense means "safekeeping, defense, and protection." Infringed simply means "to trespass or violate"; in this case, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be violated.
look at figure 1. Came from the CDC. Ages 1-17. Even if we are changing the age to 18, look at the underlying trend line, auto accidents declining or stagnant and gun deaths increasing significantly. You want to say its all mental issues, then how do you solve that problem, with republicans continuing to cut mental health funding sounds like you are on the wrong side of curbing that as well.
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It's infringed all the time. Trump rallies, airports, Congress, concerts, sports, the list goes on and on of places where guns are banned. The infringement like is pure BS
Yupp.... now go into the cdc link at the bottom "dumbass". They bury it. As soon as you make it 1-18 it's auto accidents. Because they don't compare apples to apples.look at figure 1 dumbass. Came from the CDC. Ages 1-17.
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Why are you so willing to trust DC? What has any of them every done dem or rep that was 100 best for the people? Why is it so hard for you to fathom an unarmed society having a "trump" come in and thr next thing we know we have the American Stalin?
You want to make thr gun numbers plummet, not the shit that sells on media, make 18-35 year old black males stop shooting each other. That's the ugly truth. Those kids that get killed in schools are a terrible crime but that isn't the meat and potatoes of those guns statistics.
Even if we are changing the age to 18, look at the underlying trend line, auto accidents declining or stagnant and gun deaths increasing significantly. You want to say its all mental issues, then how do you solve that problem, with republicans continuing to cut mental health funding sounds like you are on the wrong side of curbing that as well.
I trust the CDC, considering you don't speaks volumes.
We need to go back to large "asylums" to allow proper staffing and support and forget the fact we might hurt someone's feelings. I'm familiar with thr mental health side and any time you have one of these small outpost move into an area anyone with thr ability to do so moves out of the neighborhood.
The other thing we need to do is quit being so goddamn nice. I'm a huge advocate of +10 years to any crime that involves a firearm. That is going to involve actually prosecution of criminals, not just blanket statements.
A. You need these large units, ever wonder why homelessness is skyrocketing. We currently have 10 brain dead druggies that yell and cuss all up and down the streets in our small town. You never used to see that. If they go to the hospital they dump them right back on the streets even though its not safe.
B. It goes more than just that, its the entire social services network to be available and service these individuals.
C. People have become assholes over the last decade. Go to any public business and ask them if their relations with the public have improved or declined.
D. The only thing you and I will agree on is the metropolitan cities need to start enforcing laws on theft. I think you do that you will alleviate some of the other issues, but is all symptoms of a larger societal issue. It is less financial security, less education, and less morality as whole (this isn't a religious debate).
If one is on the street and is mugged or a clown attempts to rape me, a gun in my closet at home isn't worth much is it?
you should take a gun to the airport then. Also not many rapes occur in the public. Usually in a house or otherwise.
We have large buildings and locations that could be converted, that will also help with your B.
Like I said in the golf thread, this world needs more talking with your neighbor and less sitting behind screens.
I'll be flying with a firearm December to Wyoming. You want the play by play as I do it?
I get it. My point is, however, the gun owner isn’t a criminal until he is(by killing people). How do you stop that? Before anybody has to die?
says the guy who set up a fight with another poster.
You don't think there was a "let's get out from behind these screens" aspect to that?
You are out of gas.
And I am sure you won't have that secured. Just riding on your hip right
.Its not whiskey, you are one that tends to overdramatize everything. Many on the right tend to, whether behind a screen or not. You don't think some of your takes are some of the reason society is where we are? When you have many on the right who can't believe simple facts, like trump lost the election, it becomes difficult to solve many of the issues we are facing.
There's laws keeping kids away from lude and lascivious behavior but that doesn't stop naked parades now does it?
"Trump lost the election", we are fuxking done here bud. You give up your rights because you don't want to acknowledge who it is that actually commits the crimes, I will not be, and you and I can both pray the day never comes.
Bush and company can suck it. I can't stand the guy and anyone associated with him. Although he signed the first patriot act, let's not forget Obama continued it and put it on steroids.
It's too bad democrats can't say bad things about other democrats. It's against the code of ethics and their rulers will punish them by not being their friends.
I must have missed where nude parades could pose a public danger.
For gods sake just don’t let your kids near one of it bothers you that much.
Hey, DB. How many of those "gun deaths" are self-inflicted? Your graph is shit.Literally nothing to do with my argument. This is about the absurd gun deaths rate vs other countries. Gun industry brainwashed ass lickers like you have created this. “Pro Life” I bet too. LMFAO…
what's disgusting is that it doesn't seem to bother you.
A firearm in a safe poses less of a threat than people who have a sexual mental health disorder, and you know that.
Can’t say I’m a fan, and I don’t get the appeal, but I’ve also never seen one live
Sure. But not all gun owners store their guns responsibly either, or at all. I suspect you know that also.
Again......said Mao, Stalin, and Hitler.
What . . . you don't agree Trump lost the election . . or that we have a severe issue with firearm deaths that no other civilized country is experiencing. Its just you value your gun ownership much higher than I value the life of others in this country. Your right is killing other people. That is not debatable yet you refuse to acknowledge that simple fact. If guns were not allowed I would be much safer as I am not a gun owner, can't you recognize that? The right was set up to have militia's to defend against Great Britain. We will have no militia trying to fight any of our wars . . I don't see a Red Dawn event occurring any time soon.
Gun rights people love to argue that many of the historical reasons for the 2nd amendment weren’t actually the reasons for it.
My right is the right to life, if that means protection or food, not killing other people, you guys tend to forget who the aggressor would be in these scenarios you create. If you want to talk about deaths, go educate yourself on what happens to every country shortly after they give up their firearms.
We don't have wars, because we have a militia.
That was the whole "blade of grass" thing.
