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Mar 26, 2014
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Just watched 14 minutes with Gilman and Clark and saw maybe two legitimate shots. Gilman got taken down on one of his shots. Too much Mstar on this squad for me.
 
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Gilman has been racking TDs up all tournament and year. Maybe he gave Mega too much respect but.. Who knows
 
Just watched 14 minutes with Gilman and Clark and saw maybe two legitimate shots. Gilman got taken down on one of his shots. Too much Mstar on this squad for me.

Gilman was fine; both takedowns were counters to his aggression. Then it's hard to attack a guy who's running away from you.

I haven't been happy with our lack of shots all season, but Gilman was never a problem.
 
Just watched 14 minutes with Gilman and Clark and saw maybe two legitimate shots. Gilman got taken down on one of his shots. Too much Mstar on this squad for me.
Where u been all year? This is the finals you want falls etc sure be nice but this is cream of the crop. Mega is a great counter wrestler and that is how he got the take down on Gillmans shot. Clark hung with a guy that had ther most falls of all 133 lbs in the nation. Give these young men some dam credit.
 
Where u been all year? This is the finals you want falls etc sure be nice but this is cream of the crop. Mega is a great counter wrestler and that is how he got the take down on Gillmans shot. Clark hung with a guy that had ther most falls of all 133 lbs in the nation. Give these young men some dam credit.
We need new leadership period
 
Have we had one offensive shot today? We seem to be falling farther behind and now.we are out of top five!

Something needs to change, just not sure what.
 
Have we had one offensive shot today? We seem to be falling farther behind and now.we are out of top five!

Something needs to change, just not sure what.
Ask Az Chief, he knows it all.
 
I'm sitting here next to an Iowa fan who just asked me what are these bonus points they keep referring to? And how can we get some? I told her in order for Iowa to get bonus points you'd have to bring in new coaches from this decade
 
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Where u been all year? This is the finals you want falls etc sure be nice but this is cream of the crop. Mega is a great counter wrestler and that is how he got the take down on Gillmans shot. Clark hung with a guy that had ther most falls of all 133 lbs in the nation. Give these young men some dam credit.
No, I don't want falls and techs. Just good hard aggressive wrestling. Not seven minutes of two on ones and being ridden like a pony. We are so far behind it is comical. Wait til next year , right?
 
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No, I don't want falls and techs. Just good hard aggressive wrestling. Not seven minutes of two on ones and being ridden like a pony. We are so far behind it is comical. Wait til next year , right?
wow 2 post you been out for football or basketball? Maybe you can go to the practice room and give some of your expert advice.
 
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Recruiting is the key. Starting to get nervous. PSU looks to be getting started on a Gablesk run, and other schools look to be on the rise VT looks good and Arizona State has lots of potential to name 2
 
wow 2 post you been out for football or basketball? Maybe you can go to the practice room and give some of your expert advice.
Good one, no we are fans who are tired of hearing about the Iowa way (which means no bonus points and getting beat up) sorry to piss you off but Iowa wrestling is a shell of its self, but you keep making excuses while Cael keeps kicking our asses
 
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I'm sitting here next to an Iowa fan who just asked me what are these bonus points they keep referring to? And how can we get some? I told her in order for Iowa to get bonus points you'd have to bring in new coaches from this decade

So again, who is your suggestion? Who can do a better job than Brands? Actually the question that needs asked is who can do a better job than Cael??
 
It's refreshing for some to say what most have been thinking. We have some of the best and most passionate fans anywhere and we are being duped. I don't question Brand's tenacity and love for Iowa but it's becoming very apparent that naracisssim doesn't translate into winning wrestling.
 
Recruiting is the key. Starting to get nervous. PSU looks to be getting started on a Gablesk run, and other schools look to be on the rise VT looks good and Arizona State has lots of potential to name 2

Agree with this. Sometimes the world just passes you by because you think it will be alright. We are accepting second place, then we accept 4th, then you become ISU.
 
Good one, no we are fans who are tired of heamering about the Iowa way (which means no bonus points and getting beat up) sorry to piss you off but Iowa wrestling is a shell of its self, but you keep making excuses while Cael keeps kicking our asses
Hey, It pisses me off also but you tell me how can the Hawks get better recurits shit Cal has all the studs and will keep getting them because of winning. When you can get a line of up of over half of them ranked number one in there weight class in high school and the other 4 ranked no worse than maybe 8th. Maybe Hawks need a math teacher to should how to get that many studs with only 9.9 scholarships and still have around 30 or more wrestlers in your rooom.
 
Looking back at the day, Iowa had only 1 takedown in their 7 matches.

That's what concerns me the most and why I don't expect much to change over the next few seasons. Incredible to not have a single TD in the championship matches. Falling to 5th place really hurts plus I think the Hawks only had one Pin the entire tourney. Hopefully the new talent coming in next year is a step in the right direction.....it better be because PSU, Okie St, and Arizona St are going to be very tough over the next few years.
 
Man, c'mon...its IOWA. Historic and competitive. That being said, I'm a PSU fan but a former WPIAL wrestler (Moore, Brinzer, Catalano era)...Iowa recruits but I do think the mindset has to change. Gilman and Clark are tuff but zero TD's combined in the finals speaks volumes...Sorensen didn't stand a chance, that wasn't surprising. At the end of the day, IMHO, Brands has to change his recruiting style and pitch. Damn, it's Iowa...use that!!!
 
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Man, c'mon...its IOWA. Historic and competitive. That being said, I'm a PSU fan but a former WPIAL wrestler (Moore, Brinzer, Catalano era)...Iowa recruits but I do think the mindset has to change. Gilman and Clark are tuff but zero TD's combined in the finals speaks volumes...Sorensen didn't stand a chance, that wasn't surprising. At the end of the day, IMHO, Brands has to change his recruiting style and pitch. Damn, it's Iowa...use that!!!
I got ripped on here after the Big 10's for saying Sorenson wasn't offensive because I wasn't a Big 10 or National champ, but it doesn't take even a high school district qualifier to notice that seemingly no one has taken less advantage of the 4-count, 4-point near fall than Iowa. That has to change, it was so pivotal this weekend.
 
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