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No, we're not going to forget

I asked a question first, and you responded with a completely different question, and now you're asking me why I didn't answer that question. Just so we're straight. That's what trolls do.

I'll answer your question first in good faith. If Santa Claus was real you'd probably not be confident about receiving presents from him this year.


What do you not understand about the fact that it's reasonable to be skeptical that you actually have someone in your family that actually believes that zero pathogens exist that cause disease?
Well, if you cared you could search "germ" and "belemnole" in the search function and see that I've discussed my crazy ass SIL before in threads that weren't about your obsession.

You didn't answer my question in good faith, you said what I should do, not what you would do. This is typical of people who routinely avoid the truth.

If my nephews came out anti-vaccine I'd ask them why. But they won't, because they're intelligent.
 
You didn't answer my question in good faith, you said what I should do, not what you would do. This is typical of people who routinely avoid the truth.
Just so we're clear, the question was:

What would happen if Santa Claus was real?
And my answer was:

I'll answer your question first in good faith. If Santa Claus was real you'd probably not be confident about receiving presents from him this year.
What's your problem again?
 
Joe your nonsense answers to questions and half-truths have in no way debunked anything. Even the pro vaxxers have come to the realization that they've been duped.
It's amazing how bad Trump fu**ed over people like Pfizer; they gave him a million bucks to feed his ego for his inauguration and he was in their back pocket.

Then along came 'covid' - giving them the opportunity to rake in billions generation after generation after generation. Not only has people's blind faith in the mRNA jabs been destroyed but they've collectively become skeptical of the old school ones as well. And they SURE as hell don't want anything to do with a 3-in-1 RSV/Flu/Covid combo platter. As big a clown as Donny was/is at least he accomplished one thing in office.🤣

It's easy to forget how uncertain things were in 2021, and the EU deal was lauded at the time. But both the size and the timing of the agreement turned out to be problematic. Countries were locked into buying doses even as the pandemic subsided, while efforts to donate excess jabs to third countries were thwarted by falling demand and logistics issues.

The repercussions are more than financial. Questions around how the big Pfizer contract was negotiated have dogged Commission President Ursula von der Leyen ever since the New York Times reported that the EU chief had exchanged messages with Pfizer's CEO in the run-up to the deal.

The contract has already been renegotiated by the European Commission under pressure from EU countries suffering from a vaccine glut. Both Poland and Hungary stopped accepting vaccines and are being sued by Pfizer for non-payment. In Romania, prosecutors want to lift immunity for its former prime minister and two former health ministers, claiming excessive vaccine purchases caused more than €1 billion in damages to the state.

In the meantime, the jabs will keep coming, with the revised contract with Pfizer locking European countries into buying vaccines until at least 2027.

 
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Well, if you cared you could search "germ" and "belemnole" in the search function and see that I've discussed my crazy ass SIL before in threads that weren't about your obsession.
Sorry, I'm not God and don't know what's in threads I don't click on.

If my nephews came out anti-vaccine I'd ask them why. But they won't, because they're intelligent.
If your Nephews came out anti-vaccine, you'd probably ridicule them like you do me, right? Incentive for them not to tell you what they really think, right? Reputation is a strong incentive. Losing family and having family talk shit about you behind your back is a strong, strong incentive.

I bet many the tens of thousands of drs. who've come out publicly have/had families too. Balls of steel. Risked it all, because the truth is worth it.

I bet the others who haven't come out publicly have families too. It's human to be a chicken shit. But it's the good 'ol boy dynamic led by people like you that drives it.
 
Yes, as you pointed out nearly 25% do. It is amazing but then you have to remember that statistically half of americans are stupid.
My SIL is a moron like you. She no longer believes in germ theory at all. She's been watching the same youtube/twitter morons that you do.
There's actually been some interesting studies that have left scientists confused as to what causes illness and disease. Although posting this for Big Pharma disciples is more than likely a waste of time. Enjoy!

Perhaps the most interesting epidemiological studies conducted during the 1918–1919 pandemic were the human experiments conducted by the Public Health Service and the U.S. Navy under the supervision of Milton Rosenau on Gallops Island, the quarantine station in Boston Harbor, and on Angel Island, its counterpart in San Francisco. The experiment began with 100 volunteers from the Navy who had no history of influenza. Rosenau was the first to report on the experiments conducted at Gallops Island in November and December 1918.69 His first volunteers received first one strain and then several strains of Pfeiffer's bacillus by spray and swab into their noses and throats and then into their eyes. When that procedure failed to produce disease, others were inoculated with mixtures of other organisms isolated from the throats and noses of influenza patients. Next, some volunteers received injections of blood from influenza patients. Finally, 13 of the volunteers were taken into an influenza ward and exposed to 10 influenza patients each. Each volunteer was to shake hands with each patient, to talk with him at close range, and to permit him to cough directly into his face. None of the volunteers in these experiments developed influenza. Rosenau was clearly puzzled, and he cautioned against drawing conclusions from negative results. He ended his article in JAMA with a telling acknowledgement: “We entered the outbreak with a notion that we knew the cause of the disease, and were quite sure we knew how it was transmitted from person to person. Perhaps, if we have learned anything, it is that we are not quite sure what we know about the disease.”

 
Sorry, I'm not God and don't know what's in threads I don't click on.


If your Nephews came out anti-vaccine, you'd probably ridicule them like you do me, right? Incentive for them not to tell you what they really think, right? Reputation is a strong incentive. Losing family and having family talk shit about you behind your back is a strong, strong incentive.

I bet many the tens of thousands of drs. who've come out publicly have/had families too. Balls of steel. Risked it all, because the truth is worth it.

I bet the others who haven't come out publicly have families too. It's human to be a chicken shit. But it's the good 'ol boy dynamic led by people like you that drives it.
This is fun. You ask me a question. I answer. Then you tell me what my answer really is.
This works for all your 'investigations' I'm sure.
 
There's actually been some interesting studies that have left scientists confused as to what causes illness and disease. Although posting this for Big Pharma disciples is more than likely a waste of time. Enjoy!

Perhaps the most interesting epidemiological studies conducted during the 1918–1919 pandemic were the human experiments conducted by the Public Health Service and the U.S. Navy under the supervision of Milton Rosenau on Gallops Island, the quarantine station in Boston Harbor, and on Angel Island, its counterpart in San Francisco. The experiment began with 100 volunteers from the Navy who had no history of influenza. Rosenau was the first to report on the experiments conducted at Gallops Island in November and December 1918.69 His first volunteers received first one strain and then several strains of Pfeiffer's bacillus by spray and swab into their noses and throats and then into their eyes. When that procedure failed to produce disease, others were inoculated with mixtures of other organisms isolated from the throats and noses of influenza patients. Next, some volunteers received injections of blood from influenza patients. Finally, 13 of the volunteers were taken into an influenza ward and exposed to 10 influenza patients each. Each volunteer was to shake hands with each patient, to talk with him at close range, and to permit him to cough directly into his face. None of the volunteers in these experiments developed influenza. Rosenau was clearly puzzled, and he cautioned against drawing conclusions from negative results. He ended his article in JAMA with a telling acknowledgement: “We entered the outbreak with a notion that we knew the cause of the disease, and were quite sure we knew how it was transmitted from person to person. Perhaps, if we have learned anything, it is that we are not quite sure what we know about the disease.”


Wow; now you're citing knowledge circa 1918 to try and make an antivaccine point?
 
There's actually been some interesting studies that have left scientists confused as to what causes illness and disease. Although posting this for Big Pharma disciples is more than likely a waste of time. Enjoy!

Perhaps the most interesting epidemiological studies conducted during the 1918–1919 pandemic were the human experiments conducted by the Public Health Service and the U.S. Navy under the supervision of Milton Rosenau on Gallops Island, the quarantine station in Boston Harbor, and on Angel Island, its counterpart in San Francisco. The experiment began with 100 volunteers from the Navy who had no history of influenza. Rosenau was the first to report on the experiments conducted at Gallops Island in November and December 1918.69 His first volunteers received first one strain and then several strains of Pfeiffer's bacillus by spray and swab into their noses and throats and then into their eyes. When that procedure failed to produce disease, others were inoculated with mixtures of other organisms isolated from the throats and noses of influenza patients. Next, some volunteers received injections of blood from influenza patients. Finally, 13 of the volunteers were taken into an influenza ward and exposed to 10 influenza patients each. Each volunteer was to shake hands with each patient, to talk with him at close range, and to permit him to cough directly into his face. None of the volunteers in these experiments developed influenza. Rosenau was clearly puzzled, and he cautioned against drawing conclusions from negative results. He ended his article in JAMA with a telling acknowledgement: “We entered the outbreak with a notion that we knew the cause of the disease, and were quite sure we knew how it was transmitted from person to person. Perhaps, if we have learned anything, it is that we are not quite sure what we know about the disease.”

Right, that's why we still have so many measles cases.
 
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I think it’s about time yall forgot whatever information you are worried about. This is starting to become a temple of doom situation.

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There's actually been some interesting studies that have left scientists confused as to what causes illness and disease. Although posting this for Big Pharma disciples is more than likely a waste of time. Enjoy!

Perhaps the most interesting epidemiological studies conducted during the 1918–1919 pandemic were the human experiments conducted by the Public Health Service and the U.S. Navy under the supervision of Milton Rosenau on Gallops Island, the quarantine station in Boston Harbor, and on Angel Island, its counterpart in San Francisco. The experiment began with 100 volunteers from the Navy who had no history of influenza. Rosenau was the first to report on the experiments conducted at Gallops Island in November and December 1918.69 His first volunteers received first one strain and then several strains of Pfeiffer's bacillus by spray and swab into their noses and throats and then into their eyes. When that procedure failed to produce disease, others were inoculated with mixtures of other organisms isolated from the throats and noses of influenza patients. Next, some volunteers received injections of blood from influenza patients. Finally, 13 of the volunteers were taken into an influenza ward and exposed to 10 influenza patients each. Each volunteer was to shake hands with each patient, to talk with him at close range, and to permit him to cough directly into his face. None of the volunteers in these experiments developed influenza. Rosenau was clearly puzzled, and he cautioned against drawing conclusions from negative results. He ended his article in JAMA with a telling acknowledgement: “We entered the outbreak with a notion that we knew the cause of the disease, and were quite sure we knew how it was transmitted from person to person. Perhaps, if we have learned anything, it is that we are not quite sure what we know about the disease.”

Lol…doctors were still bleeding people in 1918.
 
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"Nearly a quarter of respondents — 24 percent — said they knew someone personally who died from side effects of a Covid-19 shot."

I have no doubt that this percentage is actually on the low side. Think of all the people scared to speak out in fear of being fired from their jobs, cancelled on social media, or have their lives threatened by big pharma. I mean, just look at Vaers, X, and Facebook for all these confirmed/verified cases being shared.
 
Dark.

That's the reason for the thread.
Precisely...very dark.

SARS-CoV-2 spike glycoprotein-based vaccines have the potential to interact with tumor suppressor proteins, promote inflammation, activate oncogenic pathways, and disrupt the fine-tuning of the immune response. These dysregulated mechanisms and signaling pathways underlie most types of cancer.

While we understand that much of the discussion about cancer and COVID-19 vaccination was done under high pressure to protect this cohort from severe disease and death, a more balanced risk/benefit evaluation is urgently needed. This is especially relevant for people with poor immune responses, such as those with hematologic malignancies [219,220], for which the benefits of vaccination are dubious and the cumulative risks of successive boosters are unknown (although conceivably increased with each dose received). Of particular concern is the observation that some anticancer drugs render COVID-19 vaccines ineffective [221,222]. In addition, the coadministration of complex anticancer regimes and COVID-19 vaccines [222-224] might pave the way for intercurrent or synergistic toxic effects. Indeed, a recent article [224] on the effects of BNT162b2 vaccine in oncologic patients under checkpoint inhibitors (CPIs) describes that CPI immunotherapy resulted in a constant and variable increase of all COVID-19 vaccination side effects, which is alarming. There is thus a concern that the simultaneous use of immunotherapy and COVID-19 vaccines boosts the body’s immune response, resulting in enhanced immune-related adverse events. Moreover, reactive axillary lymphadenopathy secondary to COVID-19 vaccines may mimic cancer metastasis, posing diagnostic dilemma and increasing anxiety in patients with breast cancer, head and neck cancers, lymphoma, and melanoma of the back and upper extremities, which are all malignancies that have a predilection for metastasizing to these lymph node stations [225-229]. Precisely, a breast clinic in Israel recently reported a 394% increase in lymphadenopathies when compared to previous years, and a study that included 169 Israeli patients undergoing a positron emission tomography-computed tomography (PET-CT) scan 7-10 weeks after receiving the second dose of the BNT162b vaccine described persistent unilateral lymphadenopathy in 29% of patients [225].

Most importantly, there is the possibility that cancer risk is dose-dependent. According to the “multi-hit model of carcinogenesis” proposed by Sutherland and Bailer [248], it takes multiple different hits or insults to cells and their genetic machinery to cause a normal cell to become cancerous. Since the COVID-19 vaccines are not a primary series for protection but rather periodic (every six months) injections without any stopping point, it is possible that only those with multiple immunizations (and/or high risk for cancer or cancer relapse) would be at higher risk of malignancy.

 
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Precisely...very dark.

SARS-CoV-2 spike glycoprotein-based vaccines have the potential to interact with tumor suppressor proteins, promote inflammation, activate oncogenic pathways, and disrupt the fine-tuning of the immune response. These dysregulated mechanisms and signaling pathways underlie most types of cancer.

And viruses are much much worse.

You've already learned here that measles erases your immune system memory - which is the actual root cause of most measles infection mortality cases.

Did you also notice that important word, hypothesis, in the title of your article?
 
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Let's be honest about this point. Not all brilliant doctors and scientists are/were on the same page with COVID protocols as some people here try to imply. Getting those #'s up through false positives was but one piece of the puzzle to make this whole thing work.

 
"Pfizer" and "mRNA" trending again on X....wonder what's happening....
Looks like the number of unhappy customers appears to be growing by the day.
 
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Censorship, straight out of the Nazi playbook. You must be so thankful!
Lol…who the fvck is being censored? They’re openly bleating on X, dumbass. Their blatant lying traces a straight path back to Wakefield - your patron saint.

And now it’s time to play the “Nazi” card. That’s when you should know you’ve lost.
 
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"Pfizer" and "mRNA" trending again on X....wonder what's happening....
Looks like the number of unhappy customers appears to be growing by the day.
When the 'experts' are saying stuff like this (cell.com rethinking next-gen vaccines) 3 years into the covid pandemic it's no wonder people are growing skeptical: 🤡's

"Because these (flu, RSV, covid, etc) viruses generally do not elicit complete and durable protective immunity by themselves, they have not to date been effectively controlled by licensed or experimental vaccines."

"Past unsuccessful attempts to elicit solid protection against mucosal respiratory viruses and to control the deadly outbreaks and pandemics they cause have been a scientific and public health failure that must be urgently addressed."

"...influenza had for many decades been the deadliest vaccine-preventable viral respiratory disease, one for which only less than suboptimal vaccines are
available."

"...the rates of effectiveness of our best approved influenza vaccines would be inadequate for licensure for most other vaccine-preventable diseases."

"...if natural mucosal respiratory virus infections do not elicit complete and long-term protective immunity against reinfection, how can we expect vaccines,
especially systemically administered non-replicating vaccines, to do so?"

"...influenza vaccines historically have been designed to prevent upper respiratory infection (so basically a head cold), not secondary pulmonary infection associated with spread from the upper respiratory tract. This has proved problematic because current influenza vaccines are suboptimal at both preventing infection and eliciting pulmonary immunity."

"Durably protective vaccines against non-systemic mucosal respiratory viruses with high mortality rates have thus far eluded vaccine development efforts.
Challenges to developing next-generation respiratory vaccines
are many and complex. We must better understand why multiple sequential mucosal infections with the same circulating respiratory viruses, spread out over decades of life, fail to elicit natural protective immunity, especially with viruses that lack significant antigenic drift (e.g., RSV and parainfluenzaviruses)
if we are to rationally develop vaccines that prevent them." (WHATTT? The FDA just approved an RSV jab. How the hell could they do that when just one short year ago they didn't even understand how one could be 'rationally' developed???)
 
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Lol…who the fvck is being censored? They’re openly bleating on X, dumbass. Their blatant lying traces a straight path back to Wakefield - your patron saint.

And now it’s time to play the “Nazi” card. That’s when you should know you’ve lost.
You say that as if you think Youtube isn't censoring. That's pretty dumb.

And I haven't lost a thing, I didn't get vaccinated, remember? I've merely been trying to warn people so they don't have to lose too. You're the loser.
 
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Lol…who the fvck is being censored? They’re openly bleating on X, dumbass. Their blatant lying traces a straight path back to Wakefield - your patron saint.

And now it’s time to play the “Nazi” card. That’s when you should know you've lost.
Are you referring to the Wakefield study that made the following conclusions?

We did not prove an association between measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine and the syndrome described. And,

If there is a causal link between measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine and this syndrome, a rising incidence might be anticipated after the introduction of this vaccine in the UK in 1988. Published evidence is inadequate to show whether there is a change in incidence or a link with measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine. And this,

Further investigations are needed to examine this syndrome and its possible relation to this vaccine.

The horror!!!
 
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You say that as if you think Youtube isn't censoring. That's pretty dumb.

And I haven't lost a thing, I didn't get vaccinated, remember? I've merely been trying to warn people so they don't have to lose too. You're the loser.
There is not a lower human lifeform than the antivaxxer...so you've got that going for you. If there is a Nazi allegory here, it would be the people who purposefully lie knowing they are killing people including children by fooling them into forgoing a simple life-saving medical procedure. Go light your candle for "Saint" Wakefield. Then drop dead.
 
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people who purposefully lie knowing they are killing people including children by fooling them into forgoing a simple life-saving medical procedure.
Sorry, but it's pretty incredible there are still idiots out there dumb enough to believe this. The cat's been out of the bag for quite awhile now that it's probably not a good idea to keep getting vaccinated, especially children.
 
There is not a lower human lifeform than the antivaxxer...so you've got that going for you. If there is a Nazi allegory here, it would be the people who purposefully lie knowing they are killing people including children by fooling them into forgoing a simple life-saving medical procedure. Go light your candle for "Saint" Wakefield. Then drop dead.
Vaccine profiteers who value profits above all else - safety and efficacy come to mind - are the real Nazis. All these benign childhood illnesses were never in need of "simple life-saving medical procedures" and I already quoted from Wakefield's retracted study: he never said what you say he said, tool.

Get a clue.

 
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Are you referring to the Wakefield study that made the following conclusions?

We did not prove an association between measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine and the syndrome described. And,

If there is a causal link between measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine and this syndrome, a rising incidence might be anticipated after the introduction of this vaccine in the UK in 1988. Published evidence is inadequate to show whether there is a change in incidence or a link with measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine. And this,

Further investigations are needed to examine this syndrome and its possible relation to this vaccine.

The horror!!!
Tarheel hates Wakefield about as much as a triple mask + face sheilder on their 9th booster hates Trump.
 
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Vaccine profiteers who value profits above all else - safety and efficacy come to mind - are the real Nazis. All these benign childhood illnesses were never in need of "simple life-saving medical procedures" and I already quoted from Wakefield's retracted study: he never said what you say he said, tool.

Get a clue.

The guy who's backed hardcore censorship and mandatory vaccination for the last 3-4 years is telling us we're the Nazis.
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