Fant told the Omaha paper on Tuesday that he enjoyed Iowa and they are still his top pick. He wanted to check out all his options to make sure, so he was still making his planned Minnesota trip. He is missing two basketball games, at his high school, to make the trips to Iowa and Minnesota. He is doing the right thing to make sure Iowa is the right school to spend the next 4-5 years. Hopefully, he still attends Iowa because he is a talented TE. Rather have him fully committed, rather than second guessing himself and leaving after one year.
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Really is necessary because of all the childish babble about pulling his offer.
Nah, if we do that for him we'd have to do it for everyone....he was told the "rules of the game" up front in no uncertain terms. He goes to minnyland for that visit, his scholly is no longer guaranteed. It's his choice, and choices have consequences...best millennials learn that now than waiting until they get out into the real world.
Great, another thread containing sweeping generalizations about an entire generation of people...
I would think all schools, Iowa included, will hold back scholarships for the top recruits they really want until the last second. Alaric Jackson, Farniok, and Fant are among their most wanted. If they had someone else that high on their board they might give it away, but since he still has Iowa on top of his list, I think they hold. Jackson may possibly visit Nebraska this weekend, but I don't see anyone complaining about him. There's nothing wrong with holding a scholarship until after the signing date, anyway. There are always some good players that don't sign at that time and you might use it for someone else.
No one is complaining about Jackson visiting Nebraska because he has not committed to any school, Fant has. Big difference.
Apparently they are very child like at Oregon as well..................................
The past week and a half were a bit of whirlwind for the No. 65 overall receiver in the 2016 class, as ranked by the 247Sports composite. McDoom decommitted from Oregon nine days ago, after only having joined the Ducks’ class Dec. 13.
He had scholarship offers from Alabama, Ohio State, Michigan State and the Wolverines when he chose Oregon but rethought that pledge in mid-January and wanted to visit U-M. According to 247Sports, when he told that to the Oregon coaches, they pulled his offer.
Pulling offers is dumb, kids looking around is just the nature of the recruiting. The only time you pull an offer is if you are running out of space. If that is the case feel free to pull it, but if it isn't, there is no reason to act all high and mighty when it is just the way of the recruiting world.
I don't mind the fact that he is visiting Minny, because what do they have that Iowa doesn't. Iowa has the better facilities, better coach, better chance at playing in the NFL and a better track record. If anything, the visit to Minny helped Iowa out.
I will make this simple. If you verbally commit, you stop looking around. If you still want to look around, do not commit. Remain undecided. Jackson has done it right where Fant has not. I'd pull the offer in a heartbeat.
I tend to give children a pass when they are confused about making life altering decisions. Growing up in Nebraska(if he was raised there, not positive about that) and playing for Iowa has got to be conflicting.
Sure seems like a case of analysis paralysis. If i were to talk to the young man I would advise him to go with his heart and stick to it.
Sure seems like a case of analysis paralysis. If i were to talk to the young man I would advise him to go with his heart and stick to it.
There are a certain percentage of your commits that truly want to go to your school, and the handful of primadonna's that want to lock in a scholly and then keep the door open for a better offer from the Big time school. Fant is the latter. But I think to some it works out and they get the big time offer their ego seeks, to others they burn bridges and end up taking a scholly somewhere. KJ Sails is a good example, as I think most of his big offers have passed on him, and Fant could end up a Gopher because he has burned bridges in Lincoln and Iowa City.
Lots of good points to be considered here. It is absolutely worth noting that these are 17-19 year old "kids" who are making what is most likely the most important decision in their lives up to this point. They absolutely owe it to themselves and prospective coaches/schools to make the best decision. No one wants a young man to transfer away in the first year or two because he's regretting his decision. Yes, that's going to happen at some point to every team, but it's best for everyone when a player can start and finish at the "right" school for him. Having said that, most of these guys have had a couple of years to figure out what they are thinking and they should be mature enough to understand the importance of their decisions. Even if they aren't as mature as we'd like, we need to hold them accountable by expecting mature behavior, or else immaturity will become the standard. This also means treating them with respect in return, as that is one of the best ways to engender good behavior. That's one of the reasons I try to stay away from these arguments about a recruit's character or "poor choices" when it comes to picking a school. If a young man's elders can't treat him maturely and respectfully, it's hypocritical to expect adult-like behavior from a high school recruit. From what I can see at my admittedly far distance, I believe Kirk is a good example of a coach who treats his recruits as adults and expects adult behavior in return.
I've never been and never will be a football coach, but I'd image you really want the guys to be "committed" when they verbally accept a scholarship offer. Trying to plan an incoming class must be monumentally difficult, and having guys leave your class is probably pretty disruptive to things. With that in mind, I can see how a coach would take a position that some do regarding taking visits after committing. You're going to lose guys most years, as things are going to change these young men's minds. It's human nature. However, to be disingenuous and accept an offer only to continue to plan visits is playing with fire. If you really want to explore all of your options, then you aren't truly committed to any school yet. Yes, there are limited spots in many school's recruiting classes, but you risk losing a spot if you hold off on a commitment until January. Holding a place in line somewhere may be a strategy that works, but I really don't blame a coach for trying to eliminate that at his school by pulling a scholarship when a guy continues to look around. That action is the only way to keep your recruiting classes from filling up as a nice fallback school. That's recipe for signing day disaster year after year. It's relatively easy to deal with an undecided guy who's deciding late compared with a guy who says he's committed, but you really have no idea. You can't go around offering scholarships to other guys "just in case", because you have a spot already filled.
The bottom line for me is that if a coach says a commitment to his school is final, then he really needs to back that up to maintain the effectiveness of that part of the agreement. If a player starts looking around and taking serious visits, he's absolutely got to know that it means his spot will likely be gone at the school to which he was committed. If it's worth the risk for him, then that's absolutely his choice, so he'd better be sure he's okay with that consequence. These are young men, not children, at least that's how we want them to act on the field and on campus. Why should we not expect the same behavior from them now? They are old enough to make informed decisions, and most of them are old enough to vote. They need to understand that actions have consequences, so make good choices with full knowledge of what those choices will mean to them.
Thanks to anyone who took the time to actually read all that. It ended up much longer than I thought. No need to post any TLDR replies, thank you.
I've never been and never will be a football coach, but I'd image you really want the guys to be "committed" when they verbally accept a scholarship offer. Trying to plan an incoming class must be monumentally difficult, and having guys leave your class is probably pretty disruptive to things. With that in mind, I can see how a coach would take a position that some do regarding taking visits after committing. You're going to lose guys most years, as things are going to change these young men's minds. It's human nature. However, to be disingenuous and accept an offer only to continue to plan visits is playing with fire. If you really want to explore all of your options, then you aren't truly committed to any school yet. Yes, there are limited spots in many school's recruiting classes, but you risk losing a spot if you hold off on a commitment until January. Holding a place in line somewhere may be a strategy that works, but I really don't blame a coach for trying to eliminate that at his school by pulling a scholarship when a guy continues to look around. That action is the only way to keep your recruiting classes from filling up as a nice fallback school. That's recipe for signing day disaster year after year. It's relatively easy to deal with an undecided guy who's deciding late compared with a guy who says he's committed, but you really have no idea. You can't go around offering scholarships to other guys "just in case", because you have a spot already filled.
The bottom line for me is that if a coach says a commitment to his school is final, then he really needs to back that up to maintain the effectiveness of that part of the agreement. If a player starts looking around and taking serious visits, he's absolutely got to know that it means his spot will likely be gone at the school to which he was committed. If it's worth the risk for him, then that's absolutely his choice, so he'd better be sure he's okay with that consequence. These are young men, not children, at least that's how we want them to act on the field and on campus. Why should we not expect the same behavior from them now? They are old enough to make informed decisions, and most of them are old enough to vote. They need to understand that actions have consequences, so make good choices with full knowledge of what those choices will mean to them.
Thanks to anyone who took the time to actually read all that. It ended up much longer than I thought. No need to post any TLDR replies, thank you.
