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NYC hits highest single-day positive cases in pandemic history....

It’s almost like it’s going to be here forever and we will all get it multiple times in our lives.

well, I can’t dwell on that. Going to wipe down my groceries and pen a letter to Barta begging for a mask mandate at Kinnick next fall.
 
Well except for some people forced to get the vaccine for work and now have serious blood clots from the J&J vaccine.
Blood clot risks from J+J are less dangerous than taking birth control pills. That being said the CDC now recommends Moderna and Pfizer rather than J+J. Shocking, that we change our minds on things when new data comes in. I would have never thought, science would correct itself.
 
I think with Omicron cases may be an overrated stat. Curious what the hospitalizations and deaths will be with this one.

At this point, this is the correct answer. Unfortunately we've screwed ourselves where the government can't take any protective measures. What should be happening is a very local/regional response. If hospitalizations peak then we should do mask mandates, limit business capacities, etc. It should be like a thermostat. When covid not around, repeal them quickly. When hospitalizations get high they go back on. Should be controlled by city, county, and state governments.

For example, NYE bar activity is going to be a shiet show.
 
NYC with the most strict Covid measures has the most COVID cases. Seems odd
There is one advantage to the Midwest in that we don't live on top of each other. Having walked down the streets of LA, NYC, and Chicago, there are times where a dude could cough next to you and you would be shoulder to shoulder.
 
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Chis, I hate the guy too but you don’t need to force a Trump attack into every thread.

This is bad news, whatever side of the aisle you’re on. Even if it’s not generally as deadly it’s going to cause more disruption and closures of mass gatherings.

And here's the thing... even if people are individually less likely to get seriously ill or die, if this bug infects vastly more people than the Delta did, then collectively, we can still overrun the hospitals and the morgues.
 
This is hard news to digest - it seems like it was just a few short weeks ago that Mayor Wilhelm was talking to Joe and Mika on Morning Cuck about how awesome and effective his edicts were working.

Mandates, masks & passports all working as one to bring the entire city together in a spirit of cooperation seldom seen in this divided nation.

G*dd*mn you DeSantis🤬😢😱
 
This is bullshit. Since vaccines became available the number one factor by far in deciding who died from Covid was vaccination status.

98 percent of known cases in America resulted in recovery from the illness. Since we know that many infected people had no symptoms or very mild symptoms and never got tested or treated, the actual percentage of the non-dead is much, much higher than that.
 
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You can argue about whether the mitigation efforts are worth the consequences but there are many countries that have fared much better than the U.S. because of those draconian mitigation efforts.

No.

We have 100 percent mask compliance in the nursing homes and yet the outbreaks still happen.
 
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You can argue about whether the mitigation efforts are worth the consequences but there are many countries that have fared much better than the U.S. because of those draconian mitigation efforts.
Small business cannot handle it again.
 
You can argue about whether the mitigation efforts are worth the consequences but there are many countries that have fared much better than the U.S. because of those draconian mitigation efforts.
Define better. If they are better in the long term it’s because of vaccination levels and obesity percentages.
 
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Almost exactly one month after Mayor Bill de Blasio triumphantly announced tens of thousands of fully vaccinated people could return to Times Square to celebrate New Year's Eve in person this year, the state saw it's highest single-day reporting of new COVID infections.

The previous record, set 11 months ago on Jan. 14, crumbled when Gov. Kathy Hochul announced 21,027 new positive cases statewide Friday. The old record for most reported cases in a single day was 19,942, when reported hospitalizations were on the brink of 9,000. Now, the number of people admitted is down by more than half.

New York reported close to the same number of tests taken last Friday, but of that batch (over 260,000), there were 10,000 less positive cases one week ago. Also, when you compare hospitalizations to one week ago, the number of people in hospitals for COVID-19 has risen by about 300, reflecting an increase of 8%.

And in New York City, where testing lines have wrapped around blocks and people report wait times well over an hour, 10,286 positive cases were reported Friday. That total is up 20% from the previous day, and 100% from two days earlier. It's also the highest reported testing day for the city since the beginning of the pandemic, and the first time the city saw more than 10,000 cases in a single day.

In an effort to combat rising cases of either variant, the state is rushing to acquire millions of at-home tests for New Yorkers living in communities with lower vaccine rates. On CNN Friday, the governor confirmed 1 million cases were already in hand with another 2 million on the way.

The unprecedented omicron-fueled COVID surge enveloping the former epicenter of the pandemic now has the mayor willing to reconsider the end of year festivities. However the mayor decides to handle the event, Hochul said it's a decision best left up to the localities and that de Blasio will "make the right decision."

Asked about the planned end-of-year bash Thursday night on CNN, de Blasio said the party is on for now but that could change at some point if the data warrants it.

"We made the decision a few weeks back when things were much better. But we said vaccinated people only," the Democrat said. "Everyone's been told for weeks and weeks, don't even show up in Times Square unless you're vaccinated."

"Now we're going to reassess constantly with the new information. We're going to follow the data and the science," he added. "Right now, it's on. You know, we'll make a decision as we go, get closer as to what should finally happen."

While that full vaccination requirement is what fueled de Blasio's confidence in a safe, jam-packed Crossroads of the World to close out 2021, a growing number of people who planned to go may be wondering if it is still enough.

A day ago, the mayor's top health adviser, Dr. Jay Varma, tweeted, "Um, we've never seen this before in #NYC" regarding COVID positivity rates. The share of people testing positive doubled in three days this week, and Varma said it was an indication of omicron evading immunity in a way no other variant had before.

The city's rolling daily case average is up almost 57% over the rolling averages for the previous four weeks and COVID hospitalizations are up nearly 31%. Delta is the variant believed to be fueling the spike in more severe cases, while omicron is thought to be behind the surge in infections. Both are called "variants of concern."

The latter accounts for only 1% of tested COVID samples in New York City currently, though its prevalence is likely far higher. Delta remains dominant (97%), but experts expect omicron to overtake it as the dominant U.S. strain in a matter of weeks.

The city does not report how many of the new cases are breakthrough infections. They are still believed to be a very small fraction of new COVID cases, and a minute fraction of new hospitalizations, but both of those fractions have been steadily rising since the emergence of omicron in November, state data shows.

The anecdotal evidence is there, too. Breakthrough infections have rattled New York City's entertainment industry resurgence to its core, with the Rockettes becoming the latest casualty Friday.

A range of Broadway shows, from "Hamilton," to "Moulin Rouge" to "Mrs. Doubtfire" and others, are canceling performances for the same reason. In some cases, the breakthrough cases in the companies are discovered so late and unexpectedly that audiences are in their seats when they learn the show will not go on.

While the first U.S. omicron case was only confirmed 16 days ago, health officials believe it was in America -- and New York, which is detecting it at four times the rate of the rest of the country, the CDC said this week -- well before that.

So are you condemning or praising De Blasio on this course of action and its ramifications?
 
No.

We have 100 percent mask compliance in the nursing homes and yet the outbreaks still happen.
Ridiculous statement with zero basis in reality.

There is no such thing as 100% mask compliance in a nursing home or anywhere else for that matter. Not even close. Although nursing home staff wear masks, most of the residents don't wear them and no one wears masks while eating and drinking.

Nursing home residents are the most vulnerable to infection and severe outcomes and they share a communal living space in extremely close space incurring physical contact with staff members, many of whom are unvaccinated and live their lives just like so many others when not at work, at bars and restaurants acting like Covid doesn't exist. They get infected and bring it into their workspace subjecting their patients to the virus. Once one patient gets it it in this confined space spreads to many others like wildfire. The bottom line is it doesn't start in the nursing home, just like it doesn't start in any home. It began at an event outside the nursing home and was brought in to an extremely vulnerable community by an outsider that wasn't vaccinated and was likely engaging in public activities where neither they nor others were taking any precautions whatsoever.
 
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Ridiculous statement with zero basis in reality.

There is no such thing as 100% mask compliance in a nursing home or anywhere else for that matter. Not even close. Although nursing home staff wear masks, most of the residents don't wear them and no one wears masks while eating and drinking.

Nursing home residents are the most vulnerable to infection and severe outcomes and they share a communal living space in extremely close space incurring physical contact with staff members, many of whom are unvaccinated and live their lives just like so many others when not at work, at bars and restaurants acting like Covid doesn't exist. They get infected and bring it into their workspace subjecting their patients to the virus. Once one patient gets it it in this confined space spreads to many others like wildfire. The bottom line is it doesn't start in the nursing home, just like it doesn't start in any home. It began at an event outside the nursing home and was brought in to an extremely vulnerable community by an outsider that wasn't vaccinated and was likely engaging in public activities where neither they nor others were taking any precautions whatsoever.

Wrong again.

Our staff are over 90 percent vaccinated and residents are in the 80s. Residents are required to wear masks just like everybody else. All infection prevention and control processes are rigorously followed, and yet the outbreaks. still. happen.

The vaccines are proving to be completely ineffective against COVID infection and transmission. The only thing they might do is protect the vaxxed individual against severe illness (for a little while) but it doesn't stop infection or spreading from happening.

The vaccines have been a failure in that regard.
 
Define better. If they are better in the long term it’s because of vaccination levels and obesity percentages.
I don't know what this means. Define better. I would define better as fewer hospitalizations and deaths. If that's what better means then vaccination levels and obesity play significant roles but they aren't the only 2 factors. Countries like New Zealand and Australia have poor vaccination rates but have had much stricter policies in place than other countries including the U.S. and their deaths are lower by order of magnitude. They will always remain at a lower level because they have prioritized public health above everything else. Over time their restrictions will likely lessen as the threat to human is diminished through vaccinations and improved therapeutics.
 
Wrong again.

Our staff are over 90 percent vaccinated and residents are in the 80s. Residents are required to wear masks just like everybody else. All infection prevention and control processes are rigorously followed, and yet the outbreaks. still. happen.

The vaccines are proving to be completely ineffective against COVID infection and transmission. The only thing they might do is protect the vaxxed individual against severe illness (for a little while) but it doesn't stop infection or spreading from happening.

The vaccines have been a failure in that regard.
Compliance is low. Period.
 
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I don't know what this means. Define better. I would define better as fewer hospitalizations and deaths. If that's what better means then vaccination levels and obesity play significant roles but they aren't the only 2 factors. Countries like New Zealand and Australia have poor vaccination rates but have had much stricter policies in place than other countries including the U.S. and their deaths are lower by order of magnitude. They will always remain at a lower level because they have prioritized public health above everything else. Over time their restrictions will likely lessen as the threat to human is diminished through vaccinations and improved therapeutics.
Covid is going to Covid unless you want to restrict freedom.

that isn’t happening in United States. It’s up to the individual to get vaccine and not be a lard ass. If you want to live in a country that insists restrictions are needed that’s up to you.
 
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It’s still age.
Yes, it is true that older people and immunocompromised people are at a much higher risk than younger healthy people. The same can be said about most respiratory viruses. Many elderly have succumbed to the virus. It is also true that within any given age group, statistics have shown that you are 14 times more likely to die from covid if you are unvaccinated. That has been the case for the past year and it is bullshit that most people that have died have had one foot in the grave already as the previous poster suggested. I personally know 3 people that have died and none of them were dying or seriously ill before contracting Covid and their ages were 22, mid 50's and early 70's. None of them were vaccinated.
 
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Yes, it is true that older people and immunocompromised people are at a much higher risk than younger healthy people. The same can be said about most respiratory viruses. Many elderly have succumbed to the virus. It is also true that within any given age group, statistics have shown that you are 14 times more likely to die from covid if you are unvaccinated. That has been the case for the past year and it is bullshit that most people that have died have had one foot in the grave already as the previous poster suggested. I personally know 3 people that have died and none of them were dying or seriously ill before contracting Covid and their ages were 22, mid 50's and early 70's. None of them were vaccinated.

I have no friends or family who have died, but we had three employees die (out of a population of 4500+). All were in their 40s. One had kidney disease and the other two were morbidly obese.

The first death didn't really follow the typical COVID script. She got sick and went to bed early one night and her children found her dead in the morning. Tested positive post-mortem for COVID so it's classified as a COVID death, but I bet she simply had a heart attack and COVID just gave her a little nudge.
 
****ing Sturgis!


Remember when that was a thing? When people blamed an outdoor event for what was happening on a national level as we had a pandemic going on but it made them feel good cuz them big bad white biker guys is da worst!



Pandemics are bad, the virus was made a political football. We now can't get past something that kills less than 1% of healthy host because trillions of dollars have been spent making this a political football.


I watched the arsenal game vs leeds yesterday. I would say less than 10% of people were wearing mask. Get past the dumbass US vs Them red vs blue bullshit.
 
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Lot of hillbillies in NYC? Denmark? Norway?
The unvaccinated are an accelerant for the fire and we are now dealing with a new variant that apparently is better at breaking through the vaccine. Would you prefer the nomenclature of: "recalcitrant potential vaccine recipients"? This would include not only dipshit hillbillies who want to stick it to the libs but also minority groups and socioeconomic groups with low vaccine percentages.
 
The unvaccinated are an accelerant for the fire and we are now dealing with a new variant that apparently is better at breaking through the vaccine. Would you prefer the nomenclature of: "recalcitrant potential vaccine recipients"? This would include not only dipshit hillbillies who want to stick it to the libs but also minority groups and socioeconomic groups with low vaccine percentages.
Seems like we might be able to find a more practical name but I for one believe the way to get one last push of vax is going to be stop the red vs blue bullshit. Make a solid play and let the chips fall, we the people are tired of the bullshit.
 
Seems like we might be able to find a more practical name but I for one believe the way to get one last push of vax is going to be stop the red vs blue bullshit. Make a solid play and let the chips fall, we the people are tired of the bullshit.
What is interesting is that until Trump I was very much middle of the road, voting republican and democrat pretty much equally, with a right lean. What has become of the republican party is really pretty sad and disappointing. I am not saying the democrats overall are any kind of wonderful, but it is all relative, and I find the MAGA vaccine demonization/hesitancy to be mystifying.
 
****ing Sturgis!


Remember when that was a thing? When people blamed an outdoor event for what was happening on a national level as we had a pandemic going on but it made them feel good cuz them big bad white biker guys is da worst!



Pandemics are bad, the virus was made a political football. We now can't get past something that kills less than 1% of healthy host because trillions of dollars have been spent making this a political football.


I watched the arsenal game vs leeds yesterday. I would say less than 10% of people were wearing mask. Get past the dumbass US vs Them red vs blue bullshit.

England is about to go into another lockdown.
 
Some of you have some real weird victim/persecution complexes going on.

You couldn't just enjoy the news that something bad is happening to a Team Blue area.

You had to also had to invent these weird angles where Team Red is victimized by being blamed for it. Or that Team Blue isn't being sufficiently shamed by the media like a Team Red area would be if it happened to them.

Another one is fantasizing about what "we" (Team Red) will do when they take back congress....

Not all that different than chis.
Lol you must not have been here last year.
 
The unvaccinated are an accelerant for the fire and we are now dealing with a new variant that apparently is better at breaking through the vaccine. Would you prefer the nomenclature of: "recalcitrant potential vaccine recipients"? This would include not only dipshit hillbillies who want to stick it to the libs but also minority groups and socioeconomic groups with low vaccine percentages.
Yep, sure that is the case. Go team!
Hillbillies are causing all the issues, they are everywhere!
 
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