Really good stuff. Thanks.
So many people think colleges teach you liberal ideas. I don't think so. I think colleges teach you to "think", and you take that skill with you when you leave.
% of population aged 25+ with a bachelor's degree.
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So many people think colleges teach you liberal ideas. I don't think so. I think colleges teach you to "think", and you take that skill with you when you leave.
Having a Bachelor’s Degree doesn’t make a person smart. There are prime examples right here on HBOT…
No, but it certainly increases your knowledge. And that's a good thing. I don't understand dumping on knowledge unless you want to try suppressing it.
So you are admitting many of our colleges and universities are Liberal Propaganda Training Centers?
The bolded statement is generally true but it does become “political” when we attempt to weaponize ignorance. And, arguably, politics and politicians have been doing that for a long time; it just seems to be more prevalent, obvious and upfront these days.
I didn't mention trade skills. You're still batting 0% on your assumptions. I doubt any point could be made with you if it doesn't fit your existing beliefs.
In my experience, highly successful white collar workers work much longer hours than blue collar workers.
But the “work” of a white collar doesn’t beat down the body as does the work of most blue collar workers. Check out the body of a 50 year old construction worker and compare the “wear and tear” of his body to that of a 50 yr. old accountant/CPA or attorney.
Remember when democrats considered themselves the grassroots party? Lol now they make fun of you if you don’t have a college education.
Maybe. CPA here. I'm 70 years old and I sat behind a desk for 40 years usually with my nuts in a vice. No physical pounding, but lots and lots of stress working 50+ hours a week for that long. It takes it's toll too.
Going to college and voting Democrat is all that I need to know about your college education.
How’d you do with 30 years of concrete or roof work?
Understand what your saying… BuT you worked in a “controlled climate” and out if the elements, too. Not to mention the physical demands on your body were far less stressful ….
I thought 36% seemed low to me. I'd be curious to see the historical data on that to see how much it has changed over the years .
I've always heard one out of four so that is where I came up with that number. I agree the historical data would be interesting.
A college education is not that big of an accomplishment. They hand out degrees and are watered down imho. Even the acceptance rates of some of these colleges are way too easy. Masters degrees are not that hard either. I respect those that get their doctorate as that takes a lot more work with their dissertation.
Most jobs I would take someone with 5-10+ years experience over a college grad. You learn way more on the job and in the trenches than ever sitting in a classroom. I respect adjunct professors that are current in their trade and teach on the side to give back to students.
I have a degree because it was required to be an educator. I certainly don’t look down on the parents that don’t have a degree if they’re working hard to provide for their family. I’ve had many parents with degrees who are pure shite at parenting.
Lol at the idea of you being an educator.
Liberals…always taking the high road.
You are so obsessed with me. It’s bizarre lol
Dude, have you ever had a substantive thought?
Sadly it’s not a joke anymore. There was a guy trolling by telling students at this university that Donald Trump’s son killed one of the last Triceratops in existence during a recent African hunting trip and the students were so angry and upset. 🤣🤣
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I took the business classes that were required for my degree. I enjoyed my classes in history, philosophy, and sociology much more. You are adamantly arguing against a position I didn't take
Did I? My position is simply “anti-transactional” approach to a college degree….Most who oppose a college education say there are too many “worthless” degrees……,.I strongly disagree. Nothing supplants a well-rounded liberal arts education for preparing one for life.
Seriously, IF Iowa had a college education rate similar to Minnesota, there would not be the Republican lockdown on political power there is in Iowa today. Iowa might still be Republican…….but elections would be competitive and Congressional seats would be much more along a 50/50 split. That is my contention…..
Because MAGAs say only kind things about liberals while earnestly seeking to understand their differences. Get out of here with that bullshit. You didn’t vote for Trump because we shamed you. We shame you because you enthusiastically support a vulgar idiot.Much will also be written about the liberals' failed approach of shaming and attempts to guilt-trip people into "not voting Republican/for Trump" like the nagging girlfriend who bitches every day about every little imperfection until the boyfriend finally says "f*** it, I'll take my chances elsewhere".
And the funny thing is............you're not wrong either.
Both things can be true, and I want voters like you to understand that so you can all learn your lessons before the next election.
It simply means a lot of Iowans that graduate with college degrees migrate to nearby states to live/work. I’ve lived/worked in 3 of the states bordering Iowa and none of them are “smarter” than Iowans. 😉
There used to be a thought out there that opined a college education only involved half of what happened in a classroom.
Looking back all these years I sort of agree with that idea.
Remember when you were an 18 year old who just hit campus. Out from under your parents’ thumbs and making your own decisions, sink or swim.
Then fast forward to the person you were at the end of your last finals as a graduating senior.
Yeah we had a LOT more to learn but we had become a good bit more than a young skull full of mush, as they say.
So even in the most " educated " state, the " uneducated " out number them. So the D's strategy to vilify the " uneducated " sounds like a losing proposition from the get go...
Perhaps it is the “maturity factor” that allows us to realize that our brains are but “mush” as we get to our 20’s…..remember your first month or so at the “new job”?
What my time in college allowed me to do was to figure out just what my place in “the new job” might be…..without being trained “one on one” for a long period of time. A history degree with an Ed endorsement…..never really used it…..but the ability to read and understand what I read and my ability to express myself in words/writing…..well, I used that skill for 40+ years. And in job areas where I never used my “history” degree or my education endorsement. That degree has always been an asset and never a hinderance. And, it has allowed me access to places I would not have been able to access without a degree.
lol… I know several former MN co-workers with bachelor degrees that chose to migrate from that liberal state with high taxes & frozen tundra weather to more conservative, lower-taxed common sense Iowa. 😉
I concur that 20+ years ago that was likely true; however, colleges have trended much more liberal since that time.
I guess it depends on what you mean by "highly successful" then. But you have managed to not discuss the content of my OP at all. Do you care to refute the fact that people with college degrees make more money and are far less likely to become unemployed during economic downturns than people without college degrees? Because that was the point I was making.
College’s would be a lot better if they would quit promoting and fantasizing the ideology of Che Guevara.
I think what you might be protesting but not addressing are the many “for profit” schools out there in “inter-net land”…..“For profits” have one agenda…..to make $$….that’s it. Enroll students, cash their checks and move them on. By eliminating these “on-line” for profits institutions a whole slug of problems in this nation’s higher education program would be solved. #1 of thes problems would be “student debt”…..
