Campbell not getting tossed was the right call. There is going to be helmet to helmet contact in the game. The difference was that he was coming in for a sack, albeit very late. It wasn’t an egregious launch towards the head, he just came in high the whole way trying to wrap his arms around him and ducked his head a bit right before the hit. If he didn’t try to make a form tackle then they should have called it but it looked like he was coming in to wrap him up.
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I think it also helped that he was clearly pulling up at the same time.
Yes, but RARELY. Only seen it a handful of times — probably because 1) it just gets missed and 2) holding on O-linemen goes uncalled so often that it seems hard to justify nailing a D-lineman for it when he has probably been on the receiving end of several uncalled holds in the same game.
Yep. I think he did punch it out just a hair late but it was definitely closer on replay than it looked in real time.
I realize that Hankins most likely was the guy who blew the coverage in the first place, but dang — if he’d forced the touchback there, it probably would have been the play of the game and possibly the play of the day nationwide. Would have been all over the post-game shows. So close.
And I think that's where each league needs to step up and make officials available to the media for up to 15 minutes after each game to explain the calls they've made. To hear their explanation might help ease the public perception while at the same time making them accountable for the calls in question.
Sorry but I don't agree. T Goods right knee was down and the ball was just past the one yard line, and THEN he reached out. Yes, a look right down the line would be helpful, but I don't think he scored there, at least from the available replay he did not. And for the OP, YES Ragini most certainly did fumble. There's no way that someone in the stadium could tell that but it was pretty clear in the replay that he was still up when the ball came out. NOW, I'd agree that they need to start looking at when forward progress has been stopped and the play probably should have been blown dead, but thats not reversable as a field call.
In general I am not a complainer about officiating. In general a great deal of people complaining have no or very little clue about what the call should have been. Watched the Thursday night NFL game where the guard caught a pass and almost scored. A guy was arguing that he crossed the plane, I said it didn’t matter because he was the guard. He said ‘he could have reported eligible’ ummm okay.
That being said, the job is difficult(have done it) but a bad call is a bad call and placing the prerequisite for knowing it is to have officiated is silly. Doctor operates on the wrong body part…. Oh sorry, you haven’t been a Doctor. Steak cooked wrong? Sorry unless you have been a cook in a commercial kitchen your opinion doesn’t count. If officials were publicly available to explain their calls more people would understand what happens.
that’s the crazy part we all (literally 50 people around me) saw him from the angles provided, break the plane and you saw him NOT break it. Several different views and I’m not sure if you were there or at home but either way we are not provided enough angles to see that in the stadium IMO. I like SWORE he crossed and had no doubt in my mind they’d rule it a TD. But I never saw a horizontal view it just appeared to be accross mid air, and then he pulled it down to the white line as he slammed it down just didn’t think I needed that additional one to confirm it in the moment. I am the OP and I definitely agree with all the ragaini confirmation of a fumble now watching it online, no way in hell that wasn’t but in the stadium we didn’t see all those angles.
I watched at home on the flat screen. Unfortunately living in KC and working every Saturday morning doesn't allow me a 5+ hour drive each way for games, but on really rare occasions. It seemed pretty clear in the slow motion replay that T Goods right knee was down and then they froze the image and the ball was well short of the goal line, before he then stretched it out.
Unfortunately, I think that you're correct. But I definitely think that it SHOULD be considered.Well we all know thats NEVER going to happen......
One of the announcers mentioned that they can't have goal line cams because the official is often standing there on goal line plays. Well, that might explain why the don't have one on the ground, but how about one at the top of the stadium? If cameras can follow a golf ball from hundreds of yards away, they ought to be able to focus on the goal line from 50 yards away.
Was also at home. He was short. It was close enough that I thought they might not overturn it, but he was probably about a foot short.
OT - I saw a guy get flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct yesterday for spinning the ball after a TD, like La Porta did.
Silly call.
Silly call.
Ragaini's forward progress had been stopped. He was being held off the ground by multiple Gophers while one guy, eventually, pried the ball out of his hands. It was a bullshit call. Period. The whistle should have blown . . .
Which it did in the exact same situation later on. Iowa made the tackle, held the ball carrier up, stripped the ball and took off for the north end zone. But it was called back immediately because--guess what?--the freakin' whistle had blown because forward progress had been stopped. LOL
Two exact situations. One (Iowa) is a fumble. Two (Minny) is not.
I trust ya & whoever else says otherwise, because we obviously were limited on what we saw. I’m just very surprised how obvious the Goodson call seemed to me because it looked absolute.
They need to get pylon cams. The goal line view is problematic because there’s an official right where the camera needs to be. Obviously, there’s not an official there all the time (wouldn’t have been there for the Hankins play), but when the play on the field is near the goal line, there often will be. Pylon cams would solve this easily.
I think the Hankins play would have been a 50-50 call even with a perfectly placed camera. Judging by where the Minny player’s feet were at the time of the punch, there’s a very real chance the ball might have already crossed the plane. It was very close.
The only real issue I had was the no holding calls. Min did a good job blocking but with as much as they were testing the outside edges, that is usually good for a couple of holds a game.
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