Oh my, RFK Jr lied about child vaccines to get confirmed
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So you're take is vaccines are unnecessary because viruses wouldn't wipe out ALL of mankind. Is that it? Sure sounds like it.
Yes. But that has nothing to do with vaccinations. Other than more children die or have health problems than they should due to not getting vaccinated. ie west Texas right now.
Here are the primary reasons for the high rank of infant mortality in the US:
The U.S. has a higher infant mortality rate compared to other industrialized nations due to several key factors:
- Higher Preterm Birth Rates
- The U.S. has one of the highest rates of preterm births (before 37 weeks of gestation) among developed nations.
- Preterm births are a leading cause of infant mortality due to complications like underdeveloped organs, breathing difficulties, and infections.
- Factors contributing to high preterm birth rates include maternal health conditions (e.g., hypertension, diabetes), inadequate prenatal care, and socioeconomic disparities.
- Healthcare Inequality & Access Issues
- The U.S. lacks universal healthcare, leading to disparities in prenatal and postnatal care.
- Low-income and minority populations often face barriers to accessing high-quality maternal and infant healthcare.
- Inconsistent access to maternal care increases risks of pregnancy complications.
- Higher Rates of Maternal Health Complications
- Maternal health conditions like obesity, diabetes, and hypertension are more prevalent in the U.S. and can lead to birth complications.
- High rates of maternal mortality also contribute to infant deaths, as newborns are more vulnerable when mothers experience severe health issues or die during childbirth.
- Social & Economic Disparities
- Racial disparities play a significant role in infant mortality. Black infants have mortality rates more than twice as high as white infants.
- Socioeconomic status influences access to nutritious food, stable housing, and healthcare, all of which impact infant survival rates.
- Variability in Regional Healthcare Quality
- Unlike other countries with centralized healthcare systems, the U.S. has major differences in healthcare quality depending on location.
- Rural areas often lack access to specialized neonatal care, increasing risks for infants born in those regions.
- Differences in Measurement & Data Reporting
- Some countries classify extremely premature infants (born before 22-24 weeks) as stillbirths rather than live births. The U.S. counts these cases as infant deaths, which can inflate the mortality rate.
- The U.S. also has more rigorous reporting standards for infant deaths than some other nations.
Of course I'd like to think we know how to treat colds, disease, illness, etc better now than we did in the 1800's or early 1900's. I mean how much of that is vaccines, and how much is Tylenol, antihistamines, antibiotics, etc. before modern medicine we couldn't properly treat the Flu.Humanity itself would still be around, but there would just be about 5 billion less of us because we would have died of diseases that existed in history but are now pretty much unheard of thanks to vaccines.
It is the greatest invention in human history because it has saved billions of lives.
Around the early 1900's we started figuring out how to make vaccines and started making them for all sorts of different diseases. Diseases that were in the past killing about 50% of kids before they became adults.
Add to that we don't fight wars anymore by having 500 guys shoot and stab each other in an open field in battle, we had the industrial revolution which has led to more office work and less dangerous work. We have OSHA to protect workers too.
I'm not saying vaccines aren't helping all cause mortality, I'm just saying there's a lot of factors as to why the population and the life expectancy have both increased.
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Wait - are you equating medicines like antibiotics and vaccines to antihistamines and acetaminophen? Really? SMFH
If we are looking for reasons life expectancy and population boomed, and that follows the same timeline as modern medicine and vaccines, it's worth exploring the values of both.
I'm pretty sure acetaminophen was a big deal, you don't think people died from fever?
Interestingly, the countries with the highest current population growth rates seem to correlate, at least loosely, with regions with the greatest number of unvaccinated children
Part of that may be a simple function of economics (eg, agricultural v industrial), in that children may still be units of production in some of those areas rather than units of cost.
Also interestingly, since 1950, global life expectancy has grown by almost 30% (!). Obviously, a lot fewer 0-5's helps that in the math, but I'm not sure it accounts for that much back-end growth. In other words, looking at raw population numbers, the back-end health improvements (for example, think for a moment about the virtual eradication of h. pylori ulclers via simple antibiotics) may be contributing as much as the front end survival.
Part of that may be a simple function of economics (eg, agricultural v industrial), in that children may still be units of production in some of those areas rather than units of cost.
Also interestingly, since 1950, global life expectancy has grown by almost 30% (!). Obviously, a lot fewer 0-5's helps that in the math, but I'm not sure it accounts for that much back-end growth. In other words, looking at raw population numbers, the back-end health improvements (for example, think for a moment about the virtual eradication of h. pylori ulclers via simple antibiotics) may be contributing as much as the front end survival.
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I'm not sure how anyone can be this ****ing stupid. You're equating medical treatment and prevention of life threatening disease to medication that helps a headache or the sniffles go away.
You say a lot of stupid stuff but this ranks up there with the most idiotic.
The thing is we reduced these diseases to extreme rarities LONG before treatment got better. In 1980 2 years before I was born
On top of that viruses are a lot harder to treat once you have them. Bacteria diseases are easier to treat because antibodics, but Viruses are a lot harder to treat. Which is why we don't have a "cure" for the common cold.
Also what makes more sense, preventing people from getting a disease like polio or small pox or treating them all after they get them?
Sure a lot of things have factored in here but vaccines are easily #1.
No, imo vaccines are ineffective and harmful.
They're unnecessary because...they're unnecessary. One of the biggest scams in history.
So you are saying that vaccines have had no positive impact on humanity. Wow.
Do you think vaccines have saved any lives?
I didn’t freak out during Trumps first term when you yahoos were all freaking out about him starting WW3, so forgive me if I am not gullible like some of you
He only led an insurrection on the ****ing US Capitol.
Whatever would we do if we can't continue to ☠️ the children?
PEGylated LNPs efficiently crossed placenta & spread to fetal circulation within 30 minutes following single-dose IM injection of 4 μg mRNA-1273 into gestational day 14. Although PEG faded away in maternal circulation within 3-24 hours, it lasted over time in fetal circulation for at least 7 days
Spike mRNA entered maternal circulation and crossed the placenta to fetal blood within one hour & transplacental spike mRNA mainly accumulated in fetal livers, dwelt in fetal placentas and trunk soft tissues.
The study showed the transplacental pharmacokinetics of mRNA vaccines, which has been missing in preclinical studies. Although researchers claim in this particular study that they "could not discern" mRNA-1273 safety issues in the short term, they raise serious concerns on the long term.
I don't mind vaccines I just don't like the weaponized virus and cancer causing agents they put in them
How does one make tons of money by being anti vaccine? He’s promoting not having something put into your body that costs money and replacing it with nothing.
Are anti vaccine business selling bottles of nothing for people to take and they are cutting rfk a deal from those profits?
Talk about an embarrassing comment.
I'm glad you think so. It just reaffirms my position. Anything you find dumb must be genius.
I admitted that vaccines HELP. But to dismiss modern medicines, even OTC stuff as being part of the reason isn't right either. Of course vaccines don't prevent infection as we've learned OVER AND OVER AND OVER from Joe's place... so now I'm confused.
I'll try and clear it up a little. The guy who has spent 20 years railing on vaccines, and profiting off of anti-vaccine science, and who has a worm in his brain, is now in a position to affect vaccines.
It's all good.
