Oh well silly me, now the tariffs make sense to me
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I thought he made quite a bit of sense. You are blinded by your hate of Trump as much as you think MAGAs are blinded by their approval.
Youre just the other side of the coin.
No, it's incredibly vague. Exactly how many people are coming across the border from Canada? What number does he want to see? Same with fentanyl.
Same with Mexico. Somebody needs to be able to state exactly what the expectations are.
And balance out their trade? What? Your goal isn't to have balanced trade with everyone -- it's to optimize trade for your country.
If we've stopped it what is there for them to stop?
Ding, ding, ding, ding. We have a winner.
I'm not against strategic tariffs. But nobody is giving me any details on our strategy here. (if there is one)
Does every sovereign nation have this right…or just the US, DooBi?
I think they all do but you have to admit, the US has taken the short end of the stick more than any other country. We are generous to a fault. Our fault.
Trump is thinking this is 1910 and we can run the nation with no income tax revenues and use tariffs as the main source of national revenue.
Well, everything makes sense except the total lie about the amount of fentanyl deaths.
“We” gain the most advantage from the current trade policies. The US fares very well currently. America has made billions… and remember , we( the USA) champion the idea of capitalism and unfettered And free trade.
How are we being generous? Why aren’t we getting a good deal?
Here's the deal imo. I think the US is going to make deals with Canada and Mexico that will be far more beneficial for us than the current deals. These tariffs will be wiped off the board with concessions from Canada and Mexico. The US is in the position of power.
Canada has what? Less than the population of California right. Probably less business as well (I'm guessing, I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong). Their business with us is far more valuable to them than our business is with them to us (that's not to say our business with them is not important).
Same with Mexico. We have seen the issues in our cities with the influx of immigration. What is Mexico going to do with that influx now? They'll be begging to make a deal.
In the end, we have no choice but to hope this works out. If it doesn't, it's going to be bad for everyone and to hope for it to be bad for everyone makes someone a pretty shitty human being imo.
Canada has what? Less than the population of California right. Probably less business as well (I'm guessing, I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong). Their business with us is far more valuable to them than our business is with them to us (that's not to say our business with them is not important).
Same with Mexico. We have seen the issues in our cities with the influx of immigration. What is Mexico going to do with that influx now? They'll be begging to make a deal.
In the end, we have no choice but to hope this works out. If it doesn't, it's going to be bad for everyone and to hope for it to be bad for everyone makes someone a pretty shitty human being imo.
It will be bad for most Americans no matter what.
I’m hoping it’s bad enough, quickly enough that they just get reversed instantly.
Supporting these tariffs is rooting against the US.
The reason these trade agreements are “bad” for the US is pretty simple to see…US tax laws and American corporations have moved to Canada and Mexico so they can maximize their profits! Jobs and industries were ripped from the U S and moved outside our borders. A “common sense” tax code could have easily mitigated this from happening. American businesses like cheap imported labor to boost their profit margins…and knowingly hire illegals and non-certified laborers to maintain their profit margins.
Who is “rooting against” the US here? I think many geee are concerned this is a piss poor idea… an idea that could never be legislated into law and can only be installed with EO. Abd “EO” is not the American way of doing business.
The person I quoted is hoping for it to be very bad for the US.
No. Even trump has now stated this will be bad for the US. ISU clearly stated he hopes the bad is over quickly, vs this being a long painful spat. It wasn't that hard to read what he said.
Don't intentionally be dense.
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Sounds like it’s a good thing we never built the keystone pipeline.
Are we sure that this isn’t just a distraction from what Elon is doing over at Treasury?
Once they have that locked down, I could see Trump simply rescinding the tariffs.
Once they have that locked down, I could see Trump simply rescinding the tariffs.
WTF does Canada have to do with any of that?
FTR, pissing on your friends is no way to get their cooperation against our enemies…but it appears China and Russia are friends now so I guess that’s out the window.
Trade with Canada and Mexico is operating under the terms of the “deal” Trump signed off on in his first term. Did you forget the much ballyhooed rewrite of NAFTA?
FTR, pissing on your friends is no way to get their cooperation against our enemies…but it appears China and Russia are friends now so I guess that’s out the window.
Tariff On Canada Not Justified By U.S. Immigration And Drug Claims
Evidence suggests that the justification for a 25 percent import tariff on Canadian goods and services does not hold up to scrutiny. Here is why.
www.forbes.com
Canada accounts for 1.5% of illegal border crossings and less than 1% of Fentanyl brought in.
There is a good chance he is bringing Canada in because he is tired of seeing how Melania gets when Justin walks in a room.
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The tariffs are the economic equivalent of an own goal. Rooting for tariffs is rooting against US interests. Unfortunately Trump supporters are ignorant about how this all works.
MAGA complains that libs call them stupid. Then they support stupid people and stupid tariff policies.
If they stopped being so stupid maybe people would stop calling them stupid.
He's already got plans to talk with their leaders. He's grifting our asses.
Just got a message from my BIL. Super Bowl party is called off because all the Mexican beer they were planning on buying is too expensive.
Imagine this. Canada and Mexico both enact a tariff on all imports from the United States. Until the United States can get a handle on the guns being smuggled from the US to those countries the tariff continues
That’s the analogy here. Guns from the United States are fueling the cartel wars and gun violence in Canada. What would conservative politicians say? Trump is trying to dictate policy to a foreign government. Would we enjoy similar treatment?
www.wfaa.com
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That’s the analogy here. Guns from the United States are fueling the cartel wars and gun violence in Canada. What would conservative politicians say? Trump is trying to dictate policy to a foreign government. Would we enjoy similar treatment?
Surge in U.S. firearms smuggling fuels Canada's gun violence crisis
Canadian authorities report a significant rise in U.S. firearm smuggling tied to gun violence.
www.wfaa.com
Exit Wounds: How America’s Guns Fuel Violence Across the Border, New Book by Ieva Jusionyte
Ieva Jusionyte explains her latest research on how firearms made and sold in the United States have played a significant role in the perpetration of violence across the border in Mexico.
It’s a concept of a strategy, silly.
Only Siths deal in absolutes. MAGAs deal in the arbitrary.
Well, looking at the action, I think it is possible that the person who enacted this hopes it is very bad for America.
How does Mysk have all this power? Who elected him? Who vetted him? Who does he answer to? Where does his “power” come from in the Constitution? (Remember that pesky little document your boy took an oaths to uphold..2 weeks ago!)
Trump and Co. have concepts of a strategy.
I’m pulling from middle school civics memories here, so I could be way off…
Wasn’t the initial goal of tariffs to get Americans to buy American-made goods?
For these tarriffs to work, aren’t we also going to need a MAJOR increase in American manufacturing?
Wasn’t the initial goal of tariffs to get Americans to buy American-made goods?
For these tarriffs to work, aren’t we also going to need a MAJOR increase in American manufacturing?
