Wow. Just think if you accepted them with open hearts like a good Christian then maybe church attendance wouldn't be going down the toilet. Instead you play victim like you're being persecuted. If anything Christians like yourself are persecuting people. Didn't you adamantly argue and call the boxer a man and vilify her on snap judgements and baseless claims? Evolve with the times or be buried in history.
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C'mon man. First it was suggested that I say "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas." Then the next thing I know, I'm noticing 'Xmas' everywhere.
Then again, there's this:
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Ah, c'mon, do my homework for me. Please enlighten me on what is "normal"....seemingly your emphasis.... for a man and woman in terms of genetic-based height, weight, bone density, full hormone profile, muscle mass, lung capacity, foot size, arm length, speed, and so on. Should a 7'2" dude be allowed to play basketball? I think that's an abnormal....err, unfair, height. Enlighten me further.
P.S. That was a rhetorical question. Don't enlighten me any more.
I think 83% of the time it's one religion persecuting/judging another. Been that way since the dawn of religion. There's a lesson to be learned there. Maybe in another 5,000 years they'll all figure it out and change.
Something that is normal is usual and ordinary, and is what people expect.
They are normal ranges for a lot of different physiological factors. One is testosterone levels. There's a normal range for blood pressure. There's a normal range for heart rate. Obviously these things can change under intense exercise but you normally don't have 150 bpm for a heart rate.
High athletics they are by definition abnormal to the general population, so is well, really stupid.
We look at high-end athletics under performance metrics, you will find out that men greatly surpass women. If you need any examples, we could look at that 15 year-old boys soccer team beat the American World Cup female team. And they beat them rather easily.
When we look at things like speed such as 100 m dash, you will find approximately 50-100 high school boys beating the best woman in the world every year. This is boys against fully mature adults.
And a big difference in this is testosterone which increases muscle mass and bone density and this is why we have historically had men and women's divisions. Biological males, such as the two in the Olympics are danger to females. They're not only taking away from more deserving competitors, they're putting their competitors in a dangerous position.
If you had a brain, you would know this.
They're not baseless claims it's called biology and one of the problems with Christianity is it demands a certain kind of conduct, it's not just accepting what is wrong, it is trying to live a certain way.
From the way, I look at it. You're the big bigot here, Christians aren't they're much more accepting and living well live than you people.
6 paragraphs and you didn't answer my question. Give me the numeric normal ranges for all the genetic-driven anatomical and physiological attributes that affect performance. Then tell me the number for each after which a woman should HAVE to compete in mens, a 'below-normal man' should GET to compete in womens, and a 'superman' should not be allowed to compete in either. We want to keep everyone safe, right? 🙄
WOW!!! What a claim!!! Innate to man is a belief in God. Everyone is in a religion. Even atheism is a religion as is materialism and humanism. The most horrendous atrocities in human history have been done by atheists. What point were you trying to make by the statement "lessons to be learned"?
Olympics and Women...
1900: Women first participated in the modern Olympic Games in Paris, France, where they competed in five sports: tennis, sailing, croquet, equestrianism, and golf. However, women were only allowed to compete in sports that were considered compatible with their femininity and fragility, and were excluded from track and field.
1928: Women were allowed to compete in athletics, gymnastics, and fencing, and women's track and field debuted at the Amsterdam Games.
1991: The International Olympic Committee (IOC) implemented a rule that any new sport seeking to join the Olympic program must have women's competitions.
Working on 1% improvements. Probably neither DNA, hormone level, or banned substance testing in 1900, so yeah, let's just go with femininity.
Give the IOC another 100 years, and it will straighten this all out to everyone's satisfaction.
1900: Women first participated in the modern Olympic Games in Paris, France, where they competed in five sports: tennis, sailing, croquet, equestrianism, and golf. However, women were only allowed to compete in sports that were considered compatible with their femininity and fragility, and were excluded from track and field.
1928: Women were allowed to compete in athletics, gymnastics, and fencing, and women's track and field debuted at the Amsterdam Games.
1991: The International Olympic Committee (IOC) implemented a rule that any new sport seeking to join the Olympic program must have women's competitions.
Working on 1% improvements. Probably neither DNA, hormone level, or banned substance testing in 1900, so yeah, let's just go with femininity.
Give the IOC another 100 years, and it will straighten this all out to everyone's satisfaction.
Truth is not all inclusive. It eliminates falsehoods. I'm not persecuting anyone. Women having to compete against a man (or man gene enhanced) is not fair play. It in a sense is persecution against women. If a person has the "Y" chromosome, then science declares that that person is a man. I'm just seeking justice. Fair play is paramount. It is not a "baseless claims". Plenty of evidence is reality available including previous banning. You are making "baseless claims" saying I am doing it when clearly I have good reason for my claims. Maybe you are simply clueless as to what "baseless claims" means.
Barbie and Ken tried to queerify texas twister last year.
I’ll bet that hurt.C'mon man. First it was suggested that I say "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas." Then the next thing I know, I'm noticing 'Xmas' everywhere.
Then again, there's this:
If it were up to me I'd have no sex based divisions in sports. We'd get rid of a lot of problems then. Base it all on merit.
Of course then We would have no women's sports but since I have no interest in them so I wouldn't bother me. Funny thing, these athletes wouldn't rise to the top of swimming, basketball, and boxing.
Those 2 boxers have testicles. The media didn't want to come out and report this.
Man... you are REALLY obsessed and upset about this! Calm down.
Bro. You trust her?! She got fired from NBC news and that entertainment channel FOX News. You REALLY, REALLY need to understand what a reputable news source is.
We all know your record for honesty. 🤣🤣🤣
She didn't get fired from Fox. She moved on on her own. She got fired from NBC because of "black face comments". Neither has anything to do with dishonesty. You FAILED!!!
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My mistake. She worked for an entertainment channel and got fired from a news channel. Does not change the fact that you need to find a reputable news source. I'll pray that you do!
Confirmed Donald Trump gay and weird.
Megan Kelly is a very reputable news source. You can't tell me anything that she lied about. You are the one that lies ALL THE TIME.
Bro, I got better things to do than try and convince you to be a better human being. You're just another sheep that believes everything they tell you. Weird you guys tote the science argument on this but not vaccines. I guess when it fits your hate filled agenda, you'll do whatever they tell you to do.
I'm putting you on "ignore". I keep getting sucked into trying to talk common sense to a mindless idiot.
Yeah, bud. I'm the "idiot." Go grab your blanket and go to your safe space, pansy.
Given his perversion for reaching down pants without an invitation, and admitting he does it, you are pretty accurate.
According to the IOC a women cannot have a testosterone level above 3.0m/L in order to compete.
A man can have a testosterone level above 10m/L
I am sure there are athletes on the men's side who have testosterone levels of 3 or perhaps lower.
Where it gets interesting is that a man who competes as a women cannot have a testosterone level above 10m/L
There is more to a sport then just testosterone. In fact if I was competing in badminton, ping-pong, equestrian events what does it matter?
It should and does matter for contact sports, or sports that require feats of strength in those situations you can have a man competing as a women with 3 times the amount of testoserone in his system.
Actually the last time the IOC did DNA tests was the 2000 Olympics. I can only speculate that after that they became more concerned with inclusion in sports rather than fairness of competition.
“Tests Clearly Show That…”: Imane Khelif’s Testosterone Level Ends Controversial Gender Debate as Team Reveals Doctor’s Findings Days After Winning Olympic Gold
Days after her stunning gold medal win at the Paris Olympics, Imane Khelif's team issues a clear statement on gender debate.
www.essentiallysports.com
Well, that gobbledygook is as badly written as many of the reports on the other side of this argument. Unless I missed a link while looking at this on my phone, What test was performed by the Parisian doctor and it showed exactly what result? It may very well be true, but OF COURSE her coach is going to say anything and everything to keep his gold medalist eligible. Is he going to come out saying she isn’t a woman after all this?“Tests Clearly Show That…”: Imane Khelif’s Testosterone Level Ends Controversial Gender Debate as Team Reveals Doctor’s Findings Days After Winning Olympic Gold
Days after her stunning gold medal win at the Paris Olympics, Imane Khelif's team issues a clear statement on gender debate.www.essentiallysports.com
“woman” is being changed to the point many doctors won’t even answer what one is anymore and many that do have such a convoluted answer to the point anyone who thinks they are, are. If there was in fact an actual scientific/medical evaluation performed, just present it or get the doctor on record. That doesn’t seem hard to do and would quell this then and there.
That's the kicker. It's all speculation. No tests are made public from the IBA. She was born with lady bits.
My point on this topic has been pretty simple. I don’t believe EITHER side. Nearly all weighing in on this have already taken a stance based on their political viewpoint.
I would love nothing more than for both boxers to drop trou in a public forum and then say, “See, now you can all KMA!”…Sadly, that isn’t realistic and I doubt anything definitive is ever presented from either side.
One thing to remember…. In many cultures having a son is preferred over a daughter. I doubt many folks would decide to treat a boy baby as a girl if they knew it was a boy. I’m guessing they just accepted the fact that all signs pointed to a daughter being born, and here we are….
Nobody is making this political but you and yours, imo.
