On a scale of 1-10, how concerned are you about our lineup?

[TarpHawk]

Well, there's a difference between being concerned and being stressed about it. But, yeah, the absence of a large chunk of the starting team on Dec 1 concerns me.

If I were to second guess anything, it would be holding out Assad when he clearly needs more matches. Are we really to believe that #39 Myles Wilson is seriously being considered as our guy in Feb-Mar over #13 Assad? If so, that's definitely concerning. I believe Brands is just telling his unruly toddler, "If you don't behave I'm going to leave you here." Wink-wink.

 

[Redm18]

I don't put a whole of stock in rankings especially in November and certainly not when one guy missed all of last season and one guy that has never been a regular varsity wrestler. I trust TnT know what they are doing here and the Midlands performance will either confirm their decision or change who is on the mat. Wilson did make a world team this year and he's been in the Iowa wrestling room for years both of which indicates to me he's not exactly a scrub. 13th at the National Tournament doesn't exactly score a lot of points anyway. Also I think Assad has only missed one match as he did wrestle the same guy that Myles did in the Princeton Dual.

 

[blcoach80]

Well, there's a difference between being concerned and being stressed about it. But, yeah, the absence of a large chunk of the starting team on Dec 1 concerns me.

If I were to second guess anything, it would be holding out Assad when he clearly needs more matches. Are we really to believe that #39 Myles Wilson is seriously being considered as our guy in Feb-Mar over #13 Assad? If so, that's definitely concerning. I believe Brands is just telling his unruly toddler, "If you don't behave I'm going to leave you here." Wink-wink.

I think we will see Wilson at ISU and who knows at Rofkins, maybe both, but I think Tom is trying to light a fire in Abe. I think he will get his chance at Midlands to take the spot for the year. Whether he does or not remains to be seen. Tom has mastered the "coachspeak" and is great at being very vague in his pressers and this isn't going to change so it is hard to get any useful info from his interviews.

 

[MVPFAN]

Thinking about it what do you see as the ceiling for the team if Lee and Kemmerer never step on the mat this year? I could possibly with my eyes squinted hard see 3 champions and 10 all Americans. I think that would be enough to win the title. Of course I could also see no one in the finals and 4 or 5 all Americans which would not be in contention.

They have zero chance at winning minus Spencer. Minus Kem would be a very minute chance if Brands or Kennedy could make top 4. The latter of your statements is probably more accurate.

 

[wasdt21]

you got me on that one, in fact i caught heck the otherday for yelling at the tv. i won't say from whom, ya'll ain't getting any pics.

I guess you just sit silently through football games. Why get excited or nervous? It's out of your control and what will be will be, right?

 

[24 so far]

That’s your opinion but I disagree regarding team titles meaning more when it comes to making history as a 4x champ (and that’s not remotely debatable to me).

Then you'd be wrong.

 

[MVPFAN]

Spencer was never going to wrestle a full season. He has tears to both ACLs, expecting him to be on the mat for 4-5 months and still be in top shape in March is not a good expectation to set. Having him start later in the year is the way to go.

Kem had been contemplating on whether to come back or not. It is likely he and Tom had a conversation about ramping up slowly at the beginning of the season and not have to weigh in so frequently (especially early).

Warner obviously is dealing with some sort of injury from Luther.

Murin, we have no indication but one of the Brands had mentioned in an interview something along the lines of reeling in his lifestlye. He had mono last year. Its possible he has COVID or has been contact traced, or dealing with any other type or illness or injury.

Wilson has looked great in the past 8 months. Do we really not think he can be an AA?? I'd imagine Assad will get his shot to take the job back at Midlands. Best man will be a podium contender.

Hawks will be in good shape by March

I need to see a lot more than I have to be confident in an AA at 184.

 

[BIG10MANIAC]

I haven't heard anyone mention Turk. If Murin is injured, couldn't Vince Turk do the job at 149? I remember a few years ago he was neck and neck with Pat Lugo for awhile..

 

[js8793]

Well, there's a difference between being concerned and being stressed about it. But, yeah, the absence of a large chunk of the starting team on Dec 1 concerns me.

If I were to second guess anything, it would be holding out Assad when he clearly needs more matches. Are we really to believe that #39 Myles Wilson is seriously being considered as our guy in Feb-Mar over #13 Assad? If so, that's definitely concerning. I believe Brands is just telling his unruly toddler, "If you don't behave I'm going to leave you here." Wink-wink.

if you're using wrestlestat rankings that's not a great metric because it's just an algorithm. wilson has only wrestled 5 matches since 2019 and hasn't had an opportunity to wrestle ranked guys. with that said he destroyed nathan haas last year a week after he beat owen webster who is solid. he made the u23. to do so he beat waddell who's been ranked and foca 2x who is a highly touted freshman. there's a chance he's just better than abe and a top 15 guy.

 

[24 so far]

if you're using wrestlestat rankings that's not a great metric because it's just an algorithm. wilson has only wrestled 5 matches since 2019 and hasn't had an opportunity to wrestle ranked guys. with that said he destroyed nathan haas last year a week after he beat owen webster who is solid. he made the u23. to do so he beat waddell who's been ranked and foca 2x who is a highly touted freshman. there's a chance he's just better than abe and a top 15 guy.

IDK if that is current wrestlestat rankings, but Wilson was the 17th ranked guy at 170 coming in, and Abe Assad was #1 at 182 and #13 overall for his class coming in.

That's a big gap to overcome, but credit to Myles Wilson for making it interesting I guess.

 

[IamHawkeye]

To be completely honest, my main concern is how Spencer will perform given his injuries. They are being very cautious with him for a reason -- he is limited. He is a truly extraordinary talent; I'd hate to see him unable to showcase that talent in a manner befitting him at NCAAs. Frankly the NS, Vitos and Glorys don't even have a puncher's chance against a healthy SL; I fear we will not see a healthy SL this season. Maybe it will be good enough.

Wonder if we would worry so much if he hadnt revealed his knee situation. I mean now his opponents know.

 

[MVPFAN]

Wonder if we would worry so much if he hadnt revealed his knee situation. I mean now his opponents know.

It was pretty obvious either way.

 

[just_somebody]

Then you'd be wrong.

Especially when Lee has meant so much to the program. I'm guessing any 4xer does, but Lee was the super recruit, who has done everything the right way and lead Iowa back to the top.

I'm a little surprised I'm saying it, but I'd rather he 4x than Iowa win the team title this year

 

[Trapper85]

Since Art apparently ?? 🙄 ??wasn't clear in his post intent, my sports team concern level = 3, likelihood of jumping out of a 5-story window because of it = 0, ranking in terms of life priorities to worry about = bottom 200 (maybe 2 or 3 on meet days).

 

[Trapper85]

Especially when Lee has meant so much to the program. I'm guessing any 4xer does, but Lee was the super recruit, who has done everything the right way and lead Iowa back to the top.

I'm a little surprised I'm saying it, but I'd rather he 4x than Iowa win the team title this year

Think I'd agree. More generally/hypothetically, I would be uber-impressed with any wrestler who made a decision that notably reduced their chances of becoming a 4-timer in favor of a team title. Conversely, I would not look down on them even 1 tiny bit if they chose otherwise.

 

[24 so far]

Especially when Lee has meant so much to the program. I'm guessing any 4xer does, but Lee was the super recruit, who has done everything the right way and lead Iowa back to the top.

I'm a little surprised I'm saying it, but I'd rather he 4x than Iowa win the team title this year

Well you can have those feelings and that's perfectly fine (free country and all), and yes Spencer Lee coming here is great, but he's not winning a Team Title on his own, nor is he selling out Carver Hawkeye on his own. It's not better for the Program than a Team Title in any way, shape or form and there is a ton of metrics to prove it.

I'll just give you one example and if that doesn't do it nothing will: Cael Sanderson of Iowa State is a 4 Timer.

 

[IAChief32]

So, no thinking about it, no talking about it? No hoping things work out, no playing out possible scenarios. No wishing Kaleb would take more shots, no hoping ADS has come up with ways to burn one-armed wrestlers. No analyzing how weight changes might affect brackets.

Everyone just sits back all chill until March.

I didn't say that but if you want to get yourself all worked up, have a nut.

 

[Gobblin]

My level of concern is somewhere between my dogs stools being a bit off lately and deciding between venison stew or venison chili this weekend for deer camp.

 

[Southermostwrestlingfan]

Calm down fellas there is a plan

that’s a heck of a theory, but Spencer has been at the Meets and there is no sign that he has any mobility problems as far as I could see

Was just getting on to ask this, I away on work detail, did not bring my roku n no big channel in Louisianna. So Spencer has been on the sidelines, even when he wasnt wrestling , the energy he brought to the team was incredible to watch. We all should be that BADASS that we can make a difference in our pajamas

 

[A Fist Full of Hawkeyes]

I didn't say that but if you want to get yourself all worked up, have a nut.

 

[Gobblin]

So, no thinking about it, no talking about it? No hoping things work out, no playing out possible scenarios. No wishing Kaleb would take more shots, no hoping ADS has come up with ways to burn one-armed wrestlers. No analyzing how weight changes might affect brackets.

Everyone just sits back all chill until March.

Please do us a favor and don’t take it out on your children or pets…. But knock yourself out punching holes in the garage drywall.

 

[Trapper85]

My level of concern is somewhere between my dogs stools being a bit off lately and deciding between venison stew or venison chili this weekend for deer camp.

My dog eats his own stools before I can see them, which concerns...err stresses...err pisses me off.

No need for concern at deer camp - Chili for lunch, stew for dinner.

 

[Gobblin]

My dog eats his own stools before I can see them, which concerns...err stresses...err pisses me off.

No need for concern at deer camp - Chili for lunch, stew for dinner.

I like how you think, but fresh heart, straps, and frozen breaded morels for dinner…. As is tradition.

And my pups stay full on goat pebbles so they pass on their own. Lotta pro-biotics in goat turds so I just let them have at it.

 

[paednoch23]

I have a conspiracy theory (in my head only) that Spencer got his knee or knees fixed secretly and is rehabbing as long as possible before nationals and is lulling his opponents into thinking he has weak knees. Worst case scenario he takes his red shirt.

It would be impossible to rehab two ACL repairs at the same time. The beginning of rehab involves the use of the good leg to progress. A new ACL Graft actually weakens around weeks 12-14 after the graft is placed. The graft then becomes ligamentized and gains strength. I have intimate experience with ACL surgery utilizing a quad tendon autograph (the preferred acl donor site for wrestlers) NO way a wrestler could rehab both knees at the same time due to the reliance of the good leg for the rehab process. There is a new synthetic approach called a BEAR implant that was approved last December, however, UIHC isn't a BEAR implant center and there is still significant recovery time with this new procedure.

 

[HawkFan1986]

My level of concern is somewhere between my dogs stools being a bit off lately and deciding between venison stew or venison chili this weekend for deer camp.

Clearly stew is the way to go here I would think.

 

[paednoch23]

no sign that he has any mobility problems as far as I could see

That's not how ruptured ACLs work. Every day walking and moving around puts very little force on the femur to tibia shift and the ACL really isn't needed for that function. Applying force by sudden movements creates that force and shift between the Femur and tibia...too much shift and you can kiss the Meniscus goodbye with a tear called a bucket handle tear. BTW I'm very familiar with ACL rupture and subsequent meniscus issues.

 

[HerkHawl]

That is more about Ybarra wanting to get valuable experience to try and claim the spot next year IMO.

If he doesn't wrestle this year, when will he? Ayala is waiting in the wings...

 

[Gusaford]

So, no thinking about it, no talking about it? No hoping things work out, no playing out possible scenarios. No wishing Kaleb would take more shots, no hoping ADS has come up with ways to burn one-armed wrestlers. No analyzing how weight changes might affect brackets.

Everyone just sits back all chill until March.

Hell yes I'm nervous.

We still haven't seen 125, 149, 174 or 197, and each of them is apparently on a pitch count or is nursing an undisclosed injury. The greatest wrestler in our program's storied history doesn't have an ACL in either knee. Our supposedly starting 184er lost to a kid in high school. Cass got pinned by a Princetonian (!) who used to wear husky geranimals. Our best healthy 149er is someone who just spent two years in the army not wrestling. Not to mention that Kaleb appears to approach every match like he's playing chess against Kasparov. I part ways with Art only on ADS. Win or lose against RBY, ADS looks like he has the eye of the tiger.

Serious question: How much CBG oil is it lawful to consume at one time?

 

[artradley]

Hell yes I'm nervous.

We still haven't seen 125, 149, 174 or 197, and each of them is apparently on a pitch count or is nursing an undisclosed injury. The greatest wrestler in our program's storied history doesn't have an ACL in either knee. Our supposedly starting 184er lost to a kid in high school. Cass got pinned by a Princetonian (!) who used to wear husky geranimals. Our best healthy 149er is someone who just spent two years in the army not wrestling. Not to mention that Kaleb appears to approach every match like he's playing chess against Kasparov. I part ways with Art only on ADS. Win or lose against RBY, ADS looks like he has the eye of the tiger.

Serious question: How much CBG oil is it lawful to consume at one time?

Lol! I snorted multiple times.

Don’t get me wrong about ADS, love the kid and would never bet against him. I’m just hoping the coaches came up with some strategies to attack one-armed wonders

 

[Kwoodhawk]

Be careful you don’t spontaneously combust.

Don't worry about it.......

 

[so cal hawkfan]

Does anyone know what Murin’s injury is? I’ve seen him on the sidelines during meets and he’s all smiles with nothing in a sling or cast. Him missing out of conference duals in November isn’t too concerning if he’s dealing with some minor dings. Is there something more serious going on?

 

[Grip220]

Hell yes I'm nervous.

We still haven't seen 125, 149, 174 or 197, and each of them is apparently on a pitch count or is nursing an undisclosed injury. The greatest wrestler in our program's storied history doesn't have an ACL in either knee. Our supposedly starting 184er lost to a kid in high school. Cass got pinned by a Princetonian (!) who used to wear husky geranimals. Our best healthy 149er is someone who just spent two years in the army not wrestling. Not to mention that Kaleb appears to approach every match like he's playing chess against Kasparov. I part ways with Art only on ADS. Win or lose against RBY, ADS looks like he has the eye of the tiger.

Serious question: How much CBG oil is it lawful to consume at one time?

LMAO that was a great post.

 

[el dub]

My dog eats his own stools before I can see them, which concerns...err stresses...err pisses me off.

No need for concern at deer camp - Chili for lunch, stew for dinner.

Yeah… I’m more concerned about what I’m going to wear to band camp…

 

[el dub]

Hell yes I'm nervous.

We still haven't seen 125, 149, 174 or 197, and each of them is apparently on a pitch count or is nursing an undisclosed injury. The greatest wrestler in our program's storied history doesn't have an ACL in either knee. Our supposedly starting 184er lost to a kid in high school. Cass got pinned by a Princetonian (!) who used to wear husky geranimals. Our best healthy 149er is someone who just spent two years in the army not wrestling. Not to mention that Kaleb appears to approach every match like he's playing chess against Kasparov. I part ways with Art only on ADS. Win or lose against RBY, ADS looks like he has the eye of the tiger.

Serious question: How much CBG oil is it lawful to consume at one time?

Have at the CBG’s… Add some CBN for sleepy times.

The real question is how much will they let you purchase? You could probably consume that much in a day and be OK. Lol

 

[Spoons]

2 or 3 is probably where I am at. It’s way early but there are some concerns. We have a 8 pt lead according to Intermat. That’s with a slightly under ranked Bartlett for psu no Facundo at 165 and a possibility of a Van Ness at 157 for them. Then add a low AA to rd of 12 type guy in Hildebrandt that is not in their total. On the flip side NO WAY IN HELL SHOULD Cass be at 7 because of 1 hi-cup he’s the 2nd or 3rd best hwt in the country. Assad/Wilson and Murin are AA type guys. Can we win the heads up matches at 141 & 174 if it happens that way again Hell yes we can. One thing for sure is it will be fun yet a bit stressful at times.

 

[Trapper85]

Yeah… I’m more concerned about what I’m going to wear to band camp…

Nobody cares as long as you keep your (trom)bone in its case.

I think this thread is now in its final death throes.

 

[el dub]

Nobody cares as long as you keep your (trom)bone in its case.

I think this thread is now in its final death throes.

Naw, I bang on the bongos like a chimpanzee… Feces throwing would be the deal breaker, in general.

 

[Trapper85]

Does anyone know what Murin’s injury is? I’ve seen him on the sidelines during meets and he’s all smiles with nothing in a sling or cast. Him missing out of conference duals in November isn’t too concerning if he’s dealing with some minor dings. Is there something more serious going on?

It appears nobody has or wants to offer answers to this, perhaps for good reason. Been wondering the same.

 

[el dub]

It appears nobody has or wants to offer answers to this, perhaps for good reason. Been wondering the same.

The obscure mention of changing life choices, or habits or whatever by Tommy had me wondering.

 

[blcoach80]

Does anyone know what Murin’s injury is? I’ve seen him on the sidelines during meets and he’s all smiles with nothing in a sling or cast. Him missing out of conference duals in November isn’t too concerning if he’s dealing with some minor dings. Is there something more serious going on?

I don't see how it could be anything COVID related or he wouldn't be on the bench with the team. I have no idea, but maybe he had surgery for something in the off season (shoulder that had the "Cory Clark" sling last year) and isn't cleared yet?! Just spit balling here, but it would make sense.