Wrong!Bill Corollo said the officials only made one mistake.
“What we didn’t do properly was the back judge, the person covering the return man, when he caught that ball, the whistle should have been blown dead, and the play was over,” Carollo said.
Had the back judge done that (and stopped the touchdown play from even starting to unfold), “we wouldn’t have the conversation.”
What Big Ten would do same, differently on infamous invalid fair catch call
If a play like Cooper DeJean’s invalid fair catch — the infamous one in Iowa’s loss to Minnesota — happens again in 2024 the final say will go to the Big Ten’s new replay center in Chicago rather than the replay official at the stadium.www.thegazette.com
"Once any waving happens on a Punt Return, the ball is going to be dead."--Bill Carollo. New Replay Center in Chicago will now have Final Say
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You don’t have to swear, the call was wrong.
Unbelievable. There are two major wars, an open boarder, inflation and a crime wave going on and now I have to relive the stupid fair-catch penalty? I can not take all of this! Help!
Look. Everyone who wanted Brian gone and is still complaining about this call needs to have their head examined. Were it not for that call, we would all likely be looking at another year of Brian's offense. Shut up and take the win.
No, BF was done regardless. It was inevitable by that point.
Perhaps. Nobody will ever know, but Beth definitively used the horrible offensive display from that game to drive the nail in Brian's career coffin at Iowa. No way she makes that move when she did had they won.
The loss gave her the capital to pull the trigger then. They win she fires him after the season or maybe after the B1G championship game. Same result, he finishes the season.
We'll never really know now will we? The spurious argument would have been made by Kirk that he just took the team to the B1G Championship and knows what's best for the program. He'd have used that capital as leverage to argue this point with Beth, the President and any donors that might have been part of this discussion.
So what would have happened had CDJ fumbled at the 5 and Minny recovered? Would they have put the ball back at midfield where he originally fielded it. My thought is no. I am not a big believer in refs trying to influence the outcome of the game but with this game it felt an awful lot like that
Stuff I’ve heard on the paid Hawkeye report site from mods and others strongly suggests that Kirk burned up a lot of politics capital to bring Brian back after ‘22. It’s highly doubtful he could have pulled that off a second time.
This rule remains one of the worst in football. The fact it's so poorly enforced should be an indicator that it doesn't work and needs a significant overhaul.
Thats pretty much exactly what happened, and still today that can't come to grips with the FACT that they "re officated" the play from the booth which is not the job of replay......
It's all speculation without disclosure from Beth, but it's possible she would have pulled the trigger even with a win. Without Cooper's heroic punt return, the team loses because of an offense that shows no signs of improvement, and the bye week is ahead. BF wouldn't have been the first coach fired after the team wins.
Maybe PJ is going to lock him in a room until he commits. It would not surprise me if PJ kept Floyd in a locked room until forced to hand him over after an Iowa victory.
I think it's best if we don't try to visualize what PJ may be doing with/to Floyd. He may need some serious therapy when he returns home.
My feeling is the opposite. There's nothing wrong with the rule. Everyone knows what a fair catch signal is and isn't. If the B1G officials would just admit that they f&cked up by overanalyzing the CDJ play, everything would go back to normal. Instead, they have to come out and make these grandiose statements like "once any waving happens..." to cover their asses and make everything complicated.
I might be mistaken, but wasn't the replay said to be checking if Coop stepped out of bounds and nothing to do with a fair catch?
According to the rule book a fair catch signal can be reviewed to see if the returning team made one before returning the ball. The review rules also don't limit the review to only one reviewable aspect of the play. Meaning they could review both the fair catch signal and stepping out of bounds.
However, as we and the replay booth all saw, he didn't make a fair catch signal. The review booth deemed that he made an invalid fair catch signal, which is different from a fair catch signal and is something that the rule book does not allow as a reviewable action. At that point once they determined that he didn't make a valid fair catch, he didn't step out of bounds, and there were no other reviewable actions that were called incorrectly, they should have left the play as called on the field. But instead they decided to officiate the game from the booth.
Yep, understand all that. I just seem to recall at the time they said the play was under review for stepping out of bounds.
Maybe that review guy was thinking CFL football where the coaches can challenge for penalties that were not called on the field.
If memory serves that’s what Kirk said he was told afterwards.
Good point. If he fumbles at the 5 and MN recovers, do they even review it?
Yes, they are! Those refs phuqued it up royally. Just a terrible, horse shit call. Indeed, a “ one of a kind” call by a B10 crew.
