I think so as well. I was more commenting on the idea that OSU trounced Iowa because of NIL. They trounced Iowa because they are better than Iowa, and have been for basically as long as the B10 has existed. They are also heads & shoulders above the Huskers right now too. But again, it's because they have had a strong foundation there for a while. This century has been kind to OSU.
OSU: the best team money can buy
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If Iowa had a Phil Knight sponsor and Iowa became a rags to riches story like Oregon, I wouldn't complain about NIL/rigged systems either. If only I'd put it all into Nvidia 10 years ago, I'd be able to afford to sponsor a decent WR. The system was always rigged, it is just more obviously rigged now. Money talks.
I get what you're saying, but it's the wild West with NIL. Whoever wins the title will be proud of it. A snide comment about NIL won't hurt their feelings.
Yeah, that's what comical about this thread. I read on OSU's Eleven Warriors that OSU has only had 2 losing seasons since the mid 1960s and one of them was the Tattoo-gate scandal around 10 to 15 years ago when Tressel was fired and they had several stars suspended or dismissed and went 6-7.
Those guys just don't field crap teams. Their fan base and supporters won't allow it
Never said we did. Just saying we'll never be able to put up that kind of money to compete with schools that can and are willing.
Earl Bruce got fired for going 9-3 every year. John Cooper got fired for having great teams that couldn't beat Michigan. Those two would be celebrated at most other programs. I understand the sort of comfort 8 wins a year can give a program like Iowa. But the ceiling under Ferentz was set over a decade ago.
Ryan Day has gone 13-1, Covid, 11-2, 11-2, & 11-2. He is under way more pressure to improve at tOSU than Ferentz is at Iowa.
Just cracks me up that posters on here are thinking tOSU success is tied to NIL. Have they not payed attention to football outside of Iowa the past 80 years?
They've had 2 - yes just 2 - losing seasons since the mid 1960s and the largest fan base in CF - by far. Their massive fan base-support will not tolerate BS teams.
Also read that the worst seasons since the Tressel - Tattoo gate scandal - 15 years or so ago - have been 2-loss seasons and their fan base almost lost their minds over them
New study reveals biggest fan bases in college football
Your look at which college football teams have the biggest fan bases.
With all the built in advantages OSU has, they should win a natty every 3-4 years. Yet they only have 1 since the playoff started, they always seem to fold under pressure.
Not that easy to win a Natty. If you look at the 247 roster talent level, Georgia and especially Alabama have had more roster talent than OSU. And to add, many people also consider Saban to be the greatest CF coach of all time. Alabama - in the Saban years - was probably the greatest-most dominating CF program of all time - as bad as I hate to admit it
The point is that OSU is there EVERY year.
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With maybe the exception being Texas, who would you take over OSU? Many consider OSU to have the best roster in CF
certainly a segment of the fan base thinks that. Basically complain that tOSU hasn't been Bama under Saban. But year in and year out tOSU has been winning 10 or more games a year.
Nobody has and that's been almost every team's problem. Not so much about OSU flopping but more about the incredible Bama-Saban run which was probably the greatest in CF history
Here's the thing about transfer NIL money: It adds to the edge that programs like Ohio State have always had. It's far more advantageous than highly ranked recruiting. These are proven players. Looking for the highest bidder. The gap between Iowa and the blue bloods of college football has only widened in recent years.
Hawks were competing in 2017. I watched osu fans leave Kinnick at the end of the 3rd quarter.
As an Iowa fan I obviously wouldn’t know but damn it almost has to be tough as a fan (not all) that you consider the season a disappointment if you don’t win a Natty.
You really have to wonder from a coaching standpoint how much fun Ryan Day is having, He already has been under pressure but now you add in all the talk of $20 million roster and the internal pressure has to weigh heavily.
Who is more talented? They have 2 NFL receivers, 2 NFL running backs and an experienced QB that can make plays with his feet and his arm. Bama just lost to Vandy. Nobody is better than them.
expectations have gotten higher especially after Meyer got here & the CFP started. I grew up in the 90s so while I saw a bunch of great teams under Cooper there was always that Michigan hurdle tOSU could never clear. Tressel handled Michigan & won the Big Ten. Still the goal was beat Michigan, win the Big Ten, & play in the best bowl possible. I remember really caring about whether tOSU finished in the top 5 or top 10.
Now tOSU is just expected to be one of the absolute best teams every year. I mean of course tOSU was always going to finished ranked, that was taken for granted.* But there really wasn't the expectation that tOSU was going to be in the NC on a yearly basis before Meyer & the CFP. This year along with 1998, 2006, & 2015 are the best teams I've ever watched for tOSU. But even if tOSU comes up short on the NC the 2025 Buckeyes are going to be absolutely loaded.
Since Tressel got here tOSU has finished ranked every but 2001 & 2011. tOSU has finished in the top 15 every year but those two & 2004.
Super weird seeing a fan of such a superior program hanging out in a lowly Iowa forum.
Competing. Not always winning but competing. Thats all any of us want to see. Not a game where if we make 1 mistake the game is over. Just give us some hope.
They're absolutely loaded every year with the exception of their subpar OLs (for them) of the last couple of years which is unusual for them. They seem to have corrected that situation with the addition of some transfers, correct?
I reluctantly have to agree with this. I think NE will be more committed to NIL and I suspect they have more resources in their diehard football fan base. I anticipate that NE will elevate its talent level above Iowa's in short order, and now that they have a competent coach in charge, I foresee that they'll surpass Iowa in performance pretty soon -- quite possibly this season.
brought in one OL last year the left tackle Josh Simmons from SDST & Seth McLaughlin at center from Alabama this year. The rest of the line {including the whole depth-chart} was recruited by tOSU. Frye isn't a standout recruiter by any standard but he is a pretty solid OL coach. I think the biggest improvement the running schemes by Chip Kelly. Last couple of years the OL has been much better at pass blocking than run blocking. I think Kelly was the major improvement there.
What Ohio State gained in 2024
Caleb Downs: The former five-star safety, ranked No. 1 at his position in this transfer class and No. 1 overall, came over from Alabama.Julian Sayin: A former five-star quarterback prospect, ranked No. 1 at his position in the 2024 transfer cycle and No. 6 overall, also switched from Alabama.
Quinshon Judkins: The former Ole Miss back, ranked No. 1 at his position and No. 8 overall in the 2024 transfer cycle, pledged to Ohio State.
Will Howard: The No. 7 ranked transfer quarterback and No. 34 overall transfer player pledged to OSU from Kansas State.
Seth McLaughlin: A four-star center prospect who transferred from Alabama as the No. 2 interior lineman transfer and No. 91 overall transfer.
So they grabbed 2 fives and a four from Bama after Sabin left. Bama loses to Vanderbilt for the first time in 40 years. Coincidence?
