Tonight's OSU beatdown of Nebraska just makes the Iowa loss look even worse than it already was.
OSU women beat Nebraska 80-47 tonight.
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Iowa is a much better team with Molly Davis on the floor. But yeah, should've won anyway.
Disagree here they had to have the refs let them do whatever they wanted to beat Iowa at their place
OSU is the most physical team in the BIG and Nebraska likes physical play. So Nebraska will lose that battle every time. In addition, OSU loves to press and I don't think Nebraska could handle the pressure.
Iowa struggles against teams that are allowed to be physical. KSU, very physical team = loss. OSU vwry physical = loss. Nebraska very physica = loss.
Iowa struggles against teams that are allowed to be physical. KSU, very physical team = loss. OSU vwry physical = loss. Nebraska very physica = loss.
On the road? They are much better at home. As are most of the teams.
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Rutgers has one win in Big Ten play. Either way, Iowa shouldn't have lost that game.
How I see it is that Nebraska had a terrible time trying to beat the Press, something that Ohio State utilizes a lot. The Press beats up on bad teams but is ineffective against good teams, which is why it’s never worked against us. Ohio State beat us because the refs allowed McMahon to bull rush our players in the paint and was never called on it.
I'm sick and tired of Iowa missing dozens of easy bunny layups. If we just make 70-80% of our layups we beat Nebraska easily and the last few wins wouldn't have been close either. I don't know if the girls are not consentrating all the way through, or if they are scared of being fouled or if they are trying to get fouled, I have no idea what's going on but when you miss that many gimmies, you are asking for trouble. I would do layup drills for an hour a day the way they've been missing them recently.
We lost to Rutgers in Lincoln, just a week before beating Iowa in Lincoln. We're OK, not great, a bubble team without the win against Iowa.
What will Iowa's epic beatdown
Nebraska lost at home to Rutgers before the Iowa game.
iowas been getting everyone’s best shot all season; Nebraska running on fumes a game after throwing everything they had against us doesn’t surprise me, especially against a very good Ohio state team.
Nebraska had 30 turnovers vs Ohio State; they took the press off vs us because it was ineffective. Microanalysis of one game will drive you crazy. Could we lose again to Ohio State? Yes, but it won't be any kind of blowout.
No surprise with this one. Nebraska isn't that good. Iowa should've handled Nebraska by double digits instead of letting complacency set in.
I've watched a ton of Women's BB this year and OSU - because of their suffocating defense and physicality - is the one team that has a realistic shot of beating South Carolina this year......although I think SC will basically run away with it this year.
On a neutral court (NCAA tournament) S. Carolina is clearly in a class by itself with OSU 2nd - Iowa is a step behind those 2 but in the NCAA tournament, who knows what happens?
On a neutral court (NCAA tournament) S. Carolina is clearly in a class by itself with OSU 2nd - Iowa is a step behind those 2 but in the NCAA tournament, who knows what happens?
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This is why I think we’ll get bounced in the sweet 16.
March Madness is always about bumping & banging.
You better be tough & have a Czinano down low to compete.
That’s why our men get rolled early every year.
Yet Iowa was up 12 against OSU on their home court before letting the game slip away. Have we forgotten that while we crown their ass (with a nod to former Hawkeye, Denny Green)?
The difference between OSU and Iowa is clearly depth. Iowa has - no doubt - the best player in the country.........maybe the best in the last 5 to 10 years. But the problem - exhibited in the Nebraska game - is that if you shut down - slow down CC, Iowa is in deep trouble which is what happened in the Nebraska game.
OSU, however, has 8 to 9 very good, really solid players and can wear other teams down.....especially late in games. Their defense is just unreal and suffocating, especially late in games. They're probably the one B1G team that should go really far (final 4) in the tournament although I wouldn't discount Iowa and especially Indiana. Everybody likes talking OSU and Iowa, but that Indiana team also can do some damage
And again, like pointed out, it comes down to depth and the deepest teams usually prevail in tournaments where several games are played in a short matter of time.
Can Iowa beat OSU? Of course. Can Indiana beat OSU? yes. But amongst the 3, I'll take OSU in a tournament. They seem to come at you in waves
These crazy talks. I take Iowa in a heart beat.
I don’t get why you think Ohio state is clearly a step above Iowa. We led in the 4th, ultimately lost in OT in a game where our bigs battled foul trouble all day. I thought it was a very even game. Coulda shoulda won perhaps but Ohio state battled back on their court.
I think we win the rematch comfortably.
Two of OSU's three losses this year were to Pac-12 teams;
-Southern Cal beat the Buckeyes 83-74 on a neutral court led by a true freshman guard who dropped 32 points on their suffocating defense, Marshall put up an 18/17 double/double, they out rebounded the Buckeyes by 15, and shut McMahon down (7 points).
-UCLA went into Columbus and beat the Buckeyes 77-71, out rebounded them by 10, and shut McMahon down (7 points).
Southern Cal shot 5-21 on 3's, UCLA 4-20 on 3's, Sheldon and Thierry scored over half of OSU's points in both games.
OSU goes as McMahon goes, the two teams sitting tied for 4th place in the Pac-12 have it figured out. I'll take the Hawks in a rematch.
So we beat South Carolina last year with our depth? They had more All-Americans sitting on their bench than we've had come through Iowa City in 10 years.
LSU's depth in the Championship game amounted to Jasmine Carson going off on 7-8 FG, 5-6 from 3. Poa and Smith were the other two subs, combining for 8 points.
Disagree. That point guard - Shelly (?) - is also a star and I believe she had 20 something points last night. OSU has 3 or 4 stars - Iowa has one - I repeat ONE
I do agree with some on this board that Iowa will win the rematch between OSU-Iowa but that OSU team is far deeper and will go farther in the tournament. And possibly Indiana lately too. My prediction - if Iowa plays Indiana or OSU in a tournament - on a neutral court - both teams smoke Iowa.......especially that extremely deep OSU juggernaut
And as for those 2 PAC teams, do you look at teams that get better and better as the season rolls on? You're describing OSU right now and the national polls agree. OSU beat Iowa and are ranked higher. END OF DEBATE
I would agree with @QChawks OSU is a much better all around team. We have the best player by far though.
A common theme I see among many fans is that we only lose due to the officiating, it's a B1G conspiracy to keep Iowa down. Most games are pretty evenly officiated. It is just tough to see the bad calls that go against the other team.
This seems to be true for both the men's and women's team at Iowa. My question is, why don't Fran and Bluder teach their players to be more physical if we know that is going to be allowed in most games?
I have not really watched South Carolina this year, but their outside shooting v Iowa last year was atrocious. Has that improved.?
SC went from a poor 3 pt-shooting team last season (31%) to among the best this year (40%)... so their entire team is averaging better than Clark.
I've only watched South Carolina a couple of times but, man, they're so deep and their shooting looked really decent. A lot of the talk on in this thread has been about the B1G teams - Iowa, OSU, Nebraska - but if I'm being honest, I just don't see anyone beating SC. They remind me a lot of those powerhouse Connecticut teams of 10 to 15 years ago. I honestly feel that Iowa, OSU or Indiana can win the B1G but in reality, I think only OSU has a chance - because of depth - of a shot at South Carolina. They come at you all game and they're intense. In reality, no one has a realistic shot
I probably shouldn't comment but is osu really that deep? In the Iowa game (which is the only one I've watched so maybe I'm way off) they completely relied on one girl to take it to the rim and be physical against us. The rest of the team didn't seem all that special to me. But like I said only time I've watched them so maybe I'm way off.
Thanks Captain Pierce
The one game I did watch I was REALLY impressed with their defense and how hard they played. Like Dawn Staley or not she is doing an incredible job at the other USC.
Yeah, that's why I've mentioned that Iowa, Indiana or OSU could beat the other 2. I'm a Northwestern grad so I don't have a favorite amongst the three but I do watch quite a bit of women's BB. Just seems that OSU seems to be really improving as time goes along and they played a ton of players last night against Nebraska which seems to be their theme lately
Iowa could also be a bit fatigued due to the traveling circus. I also would not be shocked if there was some animosity toward Clark due to all the attention she is deservedly getting as well as the dollars that are rolling in.
Probably but the jealousy and animosity can be found against most top athletes in their sport by their rivals. We can debate which team is the best but there is no doubt who the best player in the country is - CC and there's no debate about it. She's definitely put Iowa at the very top of the college BB world
That's an interesting question. With the men maybe it's just personnel? Garza was a bull. I remember Izzo going schizo over Garza "bulldozing" his players.
With Bluder I dunno, but it makes me wonder if some coaches are basketball "purists." Teaching the way the game should be played. Wouldn't be practical but it's probably the way I would coach, 😂.
Possibly, but deep down they have to know that CC is the main reason they're the talk and are on top of the CWB world. 10 to 15 years from now, when I hear Iowa WB, I'll immediately think of C. Clark
